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The Couteau à beurre (The Butter Knife)
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M@sk  [udvikler] 2. maj 2023 kl. 9:05
Weapon Stat Discussion
What would the stats of this weapon be?

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Quarante-Cinq 3. maj 2023 kl. 23:03 
(+) Upon a kill (normal stab or backstab), gain Minicrits for (2 min, 4 max) seconds
(-) -50% damage penalty
dabmasterars 4. maj 2023 kl. 4:34 
The Couteau à beurre

:) every kill increases health by 5 (up to 145)
:( marked for death for 1 sec on backstab

this weapon encourages spies to pick off lone enemies (instead of groups) and rewards you with extra survivability


Before commenting, remember the rules of good stat ideas:
- no more than 5 stats
- design the stats around the weapon's look and name
- try to imagine a playstyle where the weapon could be used
- no random chances
- no "uM acTuAlly tHiS shOuLd bE jUsT a rESkiN"
I want the weapon to encourage a aggressive/matador type play style without it sounding too much like The Big Earner.

(+) +35 attack speed
(+) backstab gives +10 speed and attack speed
(-) backstabs no longer instant kill, instead backstabs deal minicrits

a thought to probably give the revolver a debuff or something to discourage revolver play like "(-) revolver has less ammo".
Pros:

On hit: Covers enemy into butter for 6 seconds (Enemy becomes very slippery) which causes him receive mini-crits

Cons:

On holster: Covers yourself in butter for 2 seconds
Covered enemies can't be backstabbed

In case of reskin:

Big Earner
Sidst redigeret af Fox [Vacation Edition]; 4. maj 2023 kl. 7:06
kitty shaker 4. maj 2023 kl. 10:54 
I will choose to not follow the rules of good stat ideas and say that this should just be a reskin. It's naive to think that valve will make balance changes should it be too good and valve would probably never add a new, functionally unique, weapon to begin with. There is however a chance they might be willing to add new reskins which also would be very cool since not everyone is very fond of warpaints. As a reskin i think it would be good to put it on the big earner.
Pixelton 4. maj 2023 kl. 14:39 
+: 25% Damage Increase
+: 30% Movement Speed
+: +10 Maximum Health
-: No Backstabs
+ Backstab stuns enemy for 6 seconds
+ Goes through back shield like bread on butter
+ +30% cloak on kill
+ Gain a speed boost on kill
- -55 max health on wearer
- Backstab does not kill (it only deals a quarter of their health)
- NO RANDOM CRITICAL HIT (Mini-crit where it would crit)
Painiscupcake2011 5. maj 2023 kl. 3:27 
+backstab ragdoll turn to be butter
dabmasterars 5. maj 2023 kl. 5:04 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Saxon Hale:
- NO RANDOM CRITICAL HIT
knives don't have random crits by default, so this stat is useless
Ridley 5. maj 2023 kl. 7:09 
Pros
37.5% increase in attack speed (it's smooth as butter)
25% debuff length reduction (i.e. afterburn, jarate)

Cons
-95% base damage (does not affect backstab damage)
20% fire vulnerability
Yanaby 5. maj 2023 kl. 15:19 
a weapon for butterknifing

pros:
backstab has absolutely no giveaways(no sound, does not remove disguise, no animation)
backstabbing gives 3 non-backstab crits for your knife
up to 15 crits can be stored at once(this stat probably won't be in the weapon description)
+50% damage bonus (60 damage)

cons:
backstab does no damage
backstab angle increased by 10(it's a con because now it's easier to backstab and deal no damage)
Sidst redigeret af Yanaby; 29. maj 2023 kl. 17:05
Majomi 6. maj 2023 kl. 9:52 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Ballinator:
+: 25% Damage Increase
+: 30% Movement Speed
+: +10 Maximum Health
-: No Backstabs
Then gun spy would be too good
entralink 20. maj 2023 kl. 5:09 
-Weapon can no longer instant kill on backstab
+ Backstab now stuns enemy for 2 seconds
+ On backstab: Instantly go invisible and gain a burst of move speed.
+ 15% Primary firing speed.
- 50% slower firing speed

Gun spy stun vibe! Allows disruption of key targets and allows for focus on revolver usage at a safe medium distance. Would be good with any watch or revovler.
Sausage Manus 21. maj 2023 kl. 13:04 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Yanaby:
a weapon for butterknifing

pros:
backstab has absolutely no giveaways(no sound, does not remove disguise, no animation)
backstabbing gives 3 non-backstab crits for your knife
up to 15 crits can be stored at once
+50% damage bonus (60 damage)

cons:
backstab does no damage
backstab angle increased by 10
really cool idea
Sidst redigeret af Sausage Manus; 21. maj 2023 kl. 13:05
Carl weezer 30. maj 2023 kl. 16:05 
Oprindeligt skrevet af quyl5778:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Yanaby:
a weapon for butterknifing

pros:
backstab has absolutely no giveaways(no sound, does not remove disguise, no animation)
backstabbing gives 3 non-backstab crits for your knife
up to 15 crits can be stored at once
+50% damage bonus (60 damage)

cons:
backstab does no damage
backstab angle increased by 10
really cool idea
what
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