XCOM 2
[WotC] Resistance Firearms - Main Module
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∑3245  [developer] Sep 10, 2017 @ 8:31pm
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∑3245  [developer] Sep 10, 2017 @ 8:10pm 
General Feedback Thread
If you think you have a good constructive idea on what could be improved in this mod, then post it here.
Smoothskin Sep 11, 2017 @ 4:34am 
My knowledge of firearms is tiny but I thought the AUG is an Austrian weapon (a quick visit to wikipedia supports this) but it's described as American in your mod. I know it's a very minor issue but there is no hurt in bringing it up. Also I find the lack of a FAL disturbing :steamsad:
Otherwise I'm still checking out all the guns and I can't wait to research magnetic weapons
Sneaking viper Sep 11, 2017 @ 9:52am 
First I must say that I am extremely impressed with your mod! Great work. Secondly in regards to the attachment slots, why only one? the base guns has 2 (which can be extended to max 4) do your collection follow the upgrades when you have a breakthrough? otherwise they would get fairly underpowered by the mid game, when you can run around with 4 mods on a stock weapon.
∑3245  [developer] Sep 11, 2017 @ 10:09am 
Originally posted by Sneaking viper:
First I must say that I am extremely impressed with your mod! Great work. Secondly in regards to the attachment slots, why only one? the base guns has 2 (which can be extended to max 4) do your collection follow the upgrades when you have a breakthrough? otherwise they would get fairly underpowered by the mid game, when you can run around with 4 mods on a stock weapon.

They should carry the same number of attachments as the base game, which is 1 for T1, 2 for T2, and 3 for T3 (because I like modding my weapons too much).

And yes, modded weapons support Breakthroughs.
Kimu Sep 11, 2017 @ 1:56pm 
Your work is really dope, u can be proud to make that much people happy around here. U might 've seen my compliment-ing comment in the section. Anyway i got some suggestions...

- You should make all snipe without any scope when they have no attachments, and by extension even all of your weapon that have already a scope (but i find this phenomenon more shocking on snipes) => The large snipers scopes are really good looking but often get replaced with lesser ones or ACOG when u attach aiming scope or laser. It's kinda a nayyy. You may have other solutions here, like, swaping between these or u know it's not a shame to fire a snipe with no scope at all with only the original iron sight, some snipers are really good at it, they teach it like that first in the army. Then upgrade it and get the scope it's perfectly fine to me. Another solution would be to adapt some of the hightech game scope one these modern weapon. I don't see the problem with that but it's up to you, this solution exist and some modders took it and it's look sometimes really good ! (like the L96 sniper with x-com aiming stuff on it from Yard1PL modder).

- SOLVED <<<<my god, you actually did let some code to do this idea (be able to put each gun buildable / unlockable in factory). So i canceled my text, sorry i didn't notice, im new to your mods : D My congratulation BTW, your code and comments in files are crystal clear ! this attention to details i love it !>>>>

- Also I think you should contact Yard1PL (not mandatory i think) to suck up part of his work on vanilla X-com2 (There is that "gallant" modder guy too with his m8 .300 whisper but i don't know him), it's an awesome modder like you. He got few guns you don't have (especially HK414 and its variants, look it up) but you have to sort stuff out because for exemple your DesertE is better than his. There is a note on his page that he allow any modmaker to take his previous work to WOTC (because he don't have it and don't mind ppl to keep his mighty quest going on). Also an "M416" rifle would be very ♥♥♥♥ing pleased too since it's a trending weapon (with all the PUBG♥♥♥♥♥♥going around)

- I had a little stroke when i saw my soldier fire P90 with his hand too much forward holding nothing. I know P90 and weapons like that should be in main weapon for everyone's sake, because we love em much. But unless you do the (very hard) work to get skeleton info and adapt a new pose to hold these guns (+ fire +every move), you might want to change them to a handgun grip. P90 can be on hand holded like a gun. It would be at least better than a fool puting his finger near this SMG's mouth.


If my suggestions annoy you, don't worry they are just ideas not ♥♥♥♥♥ing, u can disagree anytime and i don't know what you've been through so far and how hard was it to do ur mod (i was just a skyrim mod maker myself long time ago). Im so happy you did and much congratulations !
Last edited by Kimu; Sep 15, 2017 @ 6:32am
a8a Sep 11, 2017 @ 4:17pm 
@E3245 Thanks for releasing this mod, E3245. I'd been eagerly awaiting it since seeing it showcased on Beaglerush's streams and was very happy to finally play with it myself.

Please would you consider adding your own China Lake grenade launcher to this mod as an additional optional cosmetic for the Grenadier's grenade launcher as well, in the same manner as you've done rifles and submachine guns?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=665084890&searchtext=China+Lake
Last edited by a8a; Sep 11, 2017 @ 4:20pm
∑3245  [developer] Sep 11, 2017 @ 4:18pm 
Originally posted by a8a:
@E3245 Thanks for releasing this mod, E3245. I'd been eagerly awaiting it since seeing it showcased on Beaglerush's streams and was very happy to finally play with it myself.

Please would you consider adding your own China Lake grenade launcher to this mod as well, from http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=665084890&searchtext=China+Lake ?

It's on the todo list for now, along with the FAL.
a8a Sep 11, 2017 @ 4:20pm 
Awesome.
nano.Luo Tianyi Sep 12, 2017 @ 7:01am 
General feedback; is 'more guns please' a valid feedback? Also what Kimo said about sniper rifle scopes looking getting replaced by ACOGs (small scopes).

Also guns suggestion (and where to ripfind them):

Assault Rifle:
AEK-971 Vintovka (Battlefield: Bad Company 2)
STG.77 AUG (Battlefield: Bad Company 2)
AN-94 Abakan (Battlefield: Bad Company 2)
HK416 (Battlefield: Bad Company 2)
AR-15
SIG-550 (S.T.A.L.K.E.R., Rainbow Six Vegas 2)
L85A2 (Rainbow Six Vegas 2, Battlefield 3/4)

Shotgun:
No ideas so far, you covered a lot of ground on this one.

Sniper Rifle:
QBU-88 (Battlefield 3/4)
OTs-03 SVU (Call of Duty: Black Ops 2)
VSS Vintorez (Battlefield:Bad Company 2, Splinter Cell: Blacklist, S.T.A.L.K.E.R.)

Light Machinegun:
HK MG36 (Battlefield: Bad Company 2)
MG3 (Battlefield: Bad Company 2)

Submachine Gun/PDW:
MP7 (Rainbow Six Siege, Battlefield 3/4, Splinter Cell Blacklist, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3)
HK UMP (Rainbow Six Siege, Splinter Cell: Blacklist, Call of Duty: Ghosts)

Pistol:
MP-443 Grach (Battlefield 4 / Bad Company 2, Call of Duty: Ghost / Advanced Warfare)
Browning Hi-Power (Mafia 3, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. (as HPSS-1m), Fallout New Vegas (as 9mm pistol))

Edit: Winchester 1200 handling seems odd, I see that you manage to get operatives to correctly use the foregrip on the M4A1 SOPMOD, may I ask you to look into this or is it out of the scope of possibility?
Last edited by nano.Luo Tianyi; Sep 12, 2017 @ 8:24am
The_Riddick Sep 13, 2017 @ 9:50pm 
I would suggest maybe adding in proper icons rather then white cutouts if possible, a simple snapshot in sdk editor would do? OR just use google if possible, there is likely a free icon resource somewhere. But I can see how that is EXTRA work that you might not want to do.

Another thing would be give weapon slightly different stats for variety and realism, for example the JackHammer has a 10 round revolver mag, perhaps reduce its critical to %5 for balance since it does have a short barrel I believe compared to say a pump action (which has a 5 round capacity I thought).

The other last suggestion which was made by some other people was to allow for attachments to appear/function correctly with the weapons? I don't know how this works in the SDK, if you need a different model for each addon, or just define a connection point for them. Obviously some will not match up well with the vanilla attachments and will need custom varients for those weapons.
CaptSausage Sep 14, 2017 @ 1:23am 
Love the pack! Just wanted to let you know that. You did an excellent job. As far as suggestions go I can only really suggest more guns. I'll throw a few out there that haven't been mentioned here already. SCAR-H, CZ805, M32A1-MSGL, P99, MP9, F2000, TAR21, ACR, PP2000, AK5C, XM8, M240, Stoner LMG, Minigun (handheld like the vanilla cannon), SV-98, Dragunov SVU, Beretta 93R, and finally the Kriss Vector 45. That's just off the top of my head. I dunno about where to acquire models for said guns, but the Nexus may have a few modders willing to donate their models.
nano.Luo Tianyi Sep 14, 2017 @ 8:17am 
Originally posted by CaptSausage:
Love the pack! Just wanted to let you know that. You did an excellent job. As far as suggestions go I can only really suggest more guns. I'll throw a few out there that haven't been mentioned here already. SCAR-H, CZ805, M32A1-MSGL, P99, MP9, F2000, TAR21, ACR, PP2000, AK5C, XM8, M240, Stoner LMG, Minigun (handheld like the vanilla cannon), SV-98, Dragunov SVU, Beretta 93R, and finally the Kriss Vector 45. That's just off the top of my head. I dunno about where to acquire models for said guns, but the Nexus may have a few modders willing to donate their models.

Google IMFDB, friend. Then search for the gun of your choice. This website lists the appearances of guns in medias such as TV series, movies, animations, and video games. The only reason I cannot point out where to find AR-15 is that there are ten gorillion variations of it and the original which it derives from.
kregano Sep 14, 2017 @ 11:47am 
If you have to add more guns (which is kinda unwieldy in this interface), I suggest ripping them from Ghost Recon: Future Soldier[www.imfdb.org], which has customizable versions of most of the guns that people are requesting.
Respect Women Sep 16, 2017 @ 11:42am 
Hey man,love the pack!,can I suggest the M21 (All ghiled up from MWR,or normal doesn't matter)?
Thexare Sep 18, 2017 @ 6:43am 
Would it be possible to get an addon for Musashi's Primary Pistols mod? Feels a bit off to have real guns for everything except that and grenade launchers.

Before my next campaign, I'm going to have to go through and fiddle around a bit with the configs; having the same guns show up for both Sniper and Vektor (with different stats) bugs me since I have some class mods that let some XCOM classes use the faction weapons. But other than that little issue I'm liking the mod.
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