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Dev Blog #2 - August progress & design musings
August 23, 2016 - Fab Mariani

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August has been an interesting month for sure, during which a fair bit has been done on some exciting features.

As I previously explained, Winterfall is not a "concept" but is in fact well into development or, shall we say, well into re-development. Indeed, early in 2015, several systems were already playable and quite functional. Combat, survival, horse-riding and jousting worked satisfyingly in a prototype incarnation and the mechanics for social interaction and relationship development were also functional. But all of that was in need of a serious cleanup and revamp. So that's where Winterfall has been this year: starting afresh and striding forward to reclaim old ground and expand into new.

Videos so far have shown a fair bit of combat gameplay, and of course Winterfall's signature graphics, full of color and rich in atmosphere. This month of August has brought to us nice things of a more varied nature:
- Polished combat functions (additional moves and attack chains and customization basics)
- Improved locomotion animations
- Core object placement and structure placement mechanics
- Mounted melee functionality
- Core inventory mechanics

Here is a little breakdown for each of those components:

- Combat now features 3 combo lines for each of the two combat styles (1 hander & 1 hander+shield), as well as two standalone attacks: a shield-breaking kick and knockdown melee attack.

- Locomotion animations have been improved particularly for female characters, with more motion captured animation and the crouching/crouchwalking animations have been replaced as well

- It is now possible to enter placement mode, from which you can place "plots", upon which to construct buildings, using snapping points for cleaner placement (red tiles in the screenshot below). Pre-placement, they can be rotated by increments of 45°. Buildings get built over a span of time, with progressive display of advancement. This is the first phase of our system, the second phase will involve gathering and stocking up resources to enable construction. The fourth phase will enable custom building using house add-ons, rather than placing pre-made structures. The fifth phase will enable inner room furnishing and decoration.

- Still from placement mode, you can place objects: protective ones (fences, palisades), interactive ones (campfire), resource storage/production (lumber, hay, hives)... While there are no rules and mechanics right now beyond simply placing those objects, since the placement mechanics work, everything will follow nicely.

- The melee combat controller works from horseback, so you can perform attacks while riding. Further developments will involve better riding functions, like in the 2014-2015 build, with horse stats (acceleration, speed, charge and endurance), damage bonuses based on speed and so on.


- And finally, the core inventory mechanics enable to pick up and drop items, quite simply, which is the first step towards different inventory types for different types of items and so on. We are going for a grid system with items of different sizes, but there are other aspects to it that should be exciting to implement. Silence on this for now, more about it later.

So things are ramping up nicely. I have already expressed my dedication to taking this game further to a state of development that offers factual play and not speculative promises. This August has had us witness yet another very exciting imagination-capturing project ending up underdelivering on its hype and that is not a fate I would ever consider for Winterfall. As reception for what Winterfall describes in terms of its goals and design is always very vibrant and excited, the sense of responsibility I derive from that excitement teams up with my own sense of perfectionism to ensure that with this game, we get something really nice to play.

While the very end August should wrap up the first version of a playable pre-alpha (usual delays notwithstanding), we'll still be some distance from the full core gameplay loop, although many of the base game systems will be in place. To be frank, however, getting new systems implemented is usually not the problem, the challenge they pose tends to more generally be with how they integrate within the greater gameplay. And then of course there is the bug-fixing, feature-tuning and overall polish they imply.

It's very hard for me to settle for merely "functional" even when I have it nicely served. Many games have promoted themselves, or even gotten on sale with less. Well, I just want this gameplay to be good and to be rich. I really set out to make the game that I've wanted to play for ages and that nobody's making, so at this point, making things that just "work" is held against that standard of me enjoying my own creation while making sure it is also enjoyable for others. I admit to such an approach not always being all that smart given that things end up taking more time, costing a lot more money and overall being far more demanding of me than they would be if I just focused on simpler things and design tricks.

For example, a common theme driving this project's design is the refusal to settle for gamification and instead doing my best to always chase fun-based satisfaction. We've all played games that rely heavily on gamification, where the primary reason why you go through an hour or two or more of gameplay is to earn some reward or other, rather than primarily enjoy yourself. From a design standpoint, it's very tricky because vertical progression in general is easy to understand, easy to get into, and an easy motivator for a player. And it can also be fun. But I'm perpetually wary of how easy it can be to go too far with that and, sooner than not, encourage play for higher stats or stronger items rather than play for a fun experience (which can still definitely grant in-game rewards as well).

It's really one of the key reasons why I'm running with the idea of worlds so big, of so many things to do, of long-range scope for the development of player characters and Houses. There is an inspiration there in strategy games, where you are actually dealing with a vast living world made up of other factions and parameters and you are trying to conquer that world and you are engaged in both the grand goal and the step-by-step of achieving it. That's exactly what I'm chasing ultimately. Make a fun and satisfying gameplay that encourages the pursuit of long-range goals, of development over spans of time, in a shifting world made up of many other factors besides player imput.
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Brokage Aug 30, 2016 @ 9:55pm 
wow! i'm loving the progress this game is making! also excited about the placement mode for houses. love it!
Chiken_Sammich Aug 25, 2016 @ 7:55pm 
& that's the kind of mindset that will reap the rewards. I know you said that profit is secondary, but the sacrifices & contributions you're making now, will come back to you in the end. Keep that up. Wish there were more devs with those fundamentals.
Fab Mariani Aug 25, 2016 @ 7:15pm 
Thanks for the sustained interest, guys. The thing is that I regard this project in a way that may be a bit too personal to make sense from a strict business perspective, but that's what enables me to navigate the ordeals of its development with clarity and focus. To me, the goal of putting a game on Steam greenlight and earning money, is second to that of making something good that is a part of me. I'm treating this project more like my child than merely my project. So it's always about making the right decisions, generally at personal cost. I am fine with that as it gives me freedom to focus on the result without having to worry too much about external pressures or vested interests or artificial deadlines. In that sense, misleading people, making false promises, or backing away silently on commitments isn't something quite likely to occur. It's not my style in the first place, but I simply care too much about Winterfall to give it that kind of treatment!
Whiteknight Aug 24, 2016 @ 4:36pm 
@Chiken_sammich - No worries dude, as I said I had a very long day at work so if I came accross as insulting you, or what you were saying, that was not my intension. Just your wording seemed to be so demanding of the Dev realated to Winterfell and I took a defensive stance to that as in my eyes, because of what they've achieved so far, it was totally unwarrented. What you were saying however, related to earning the respect of your fan-base, I could not agree more, I really do not disagree with anything you said - I just commented on anything you said realted to the how the Dev of Winterfell must ("AS LONG AS") act. Though I admit I shouldn't have said anything. Sorry man.
Chiken_Sammich Aug 24, 2016 @ 2:04pm 
@Fishbowl - No offense taken. You're entirely correct that I shouldn't be bitching about another unrelated dev. However the only reason I brought it up was because of this quote taken from the post.

"This August has had us witness yet another very exciting imagination-capturing project ending up underdelivering on its hype and that is not a fate I would ever consider for Winterfall."

The things I stated were meant to be in the vein of... 'This is what they did wrong. As long as you steer clear of that behavior. You'll earn gamers respect & build a fanbase'

I plan on supporting this as well. So far what I've seen look really promising. If I came off as a hater then I didn't present myself clearly.
Prophet Wisko Tangy Aug 23, 2016 @ 10:13pm 
Looks awesome! Cannot wait to play
Whiteknight Aug 23, 2016 @ 6:31pm 
To some extent I personally do agree with what you are saying @Chiken_Sammich, and as I can only assume you're talking about No Man's Sky, which I do not own as I wasn't particularly interested. I do not think it's apporopriate however, to say to a developer, on his Dev Blog (which is only here for his fan base!) that you will only 'forgive' him if he meets your conditions. Support the game or not, but unless you put in just as much effort as they do, I personally don't think it's your place to tell him how to go about supporting his fan-base. Though as I stated earlier I do agree with you to some extent, but this is not the place to post that, nor is it fair to a developer which is just informing us due to his passion about the project. Also sorry if I seem to have gone a bit to far, it's been a really long day.

Love what you've done so far, and eagerly awaiting to see what's more to come!
Whiteknight Aug 23, 2016 @ 6:31pm 
Very excited to give this pre-alpha a sturdy go (if chosen, of course) and try to understand the mechanics behind this 'dream' of yours (and mine too, to be honest). We do realise this is far from complete we're not expecting anything polished obviously but I for one cannot contain my excitement at this.
Chiken_Sammich Aug 23, 2016 @ 5:50pm 
It's no secret who the big disappointment of the month was. And I like many plunked down $60(what seems like a HUGE amount on my currently extremely tight budget), for an ok game. What hurts the most, is not the quality of the game. It's the lack of respect a dev could have for his fanbase. When you're not looking at us as fellow gamers & an investment opportunity for your future releases. Your mind is in the wrong place. And when that next game comes out don't think the community will forget the indignation.

So far... Love what you're doing:cluck::sinnersandwich:
Chiken_Sammich Aug 23, 2016 @ 5:49pm 
If you fall short of "completely amazing" & land in "still pretty damn good" territory. Believe me. Your followers will forgive you.
1)You gave it your absolute best.
2)You assess the final product for what it ACTUALLY IS & price it fairly.
3)You do not abandon support immediately or soon after release.
4)Last but not least. Be honest about the product. Keep us informed. If an idea had to be scrapped. Don't assume we'll understand. Especially if you were promising those features all the way up to launch.