enis.mujanovic

а, ну ок тогда)

Совершенно верно, изначально-то все и было в порядке, а потом мне захотелось звук drive потише сделать, а потом поменять, потом вроде обратно поменял, но видать, не на то что-то поменял, а как раньше было, я не запомнил, и начал паниковать... Единственная претензия - к моей исключительной криворукости, прости за кипиш. И спасибище за моды, кстати :)

так, но у меня в моде-то точно моно.

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Я все параметры кастомного подогнал под оригинал, и это сработало. Все зазвучало идеально. Подозреваю, что проблема именно в стереоформате звука - игра глушит лишь один канал, а по второму звук шуровал на полную (причем любой звук, издаваемый трамваем). Хотя я до сих пор хз, почему глюк не исчезал, когда я менял звуки вручную обратно.. Видимо, что-то все-таки провтыкал и не поменял.
В общем, суть такова: домики набигают не стоит юзать стереозвуки, да и вообще, походу, лучше лишний раз не ковыряться в файлах, от греха подальше. :)

Ура, я разобрался! Сейчас будет многабукаф.. Итак, я решил попросту удалить мод и подписаться заново. И, о чудо - помогло! Звук стал затихать на расстоянии. Я решил понять, в чем соль. Заменил звук drive на кастомный - и беда вернулась, трамвай грохочет на всю округу. Тогда я сравнил оригинальный файл со своим кастомным, и нашел такие различия:
- оригинал: моно, частота 48000, скорость потока ~750
- кастомный: стерео, частота 44100, скорость потока 1411
...

С подменой звуков тоже не прокатило :( Менял на звуки друг друга, менял на дефолтные, менял на скачанные из интернета и собственноручно отредактированные. Менял только drive и idle, а двери оставлял нетронутыми... Все до лампочки. Я перестаю слышать даже рев турбины ТЭП70, когда подъезжаю на нем к городу с трамваями... За ответ спасибо в любом случае.

Да вот шут его знает... я тоже как-то не замечал. Попробуй, что ли, звуки подменить на звуки от КТ4

Простите за мультипост, но у меня пригорает... Скачал KT4D, в игре звучит идеально, тише на расстоянии, все дела. Открываю, значит, ее sound_set - а там значения gain самые банальные: { .0, 1.0 }, { .15, .0 }, ну и refDist = 35.0, что в пределах нормы. Дефолт же! Почему же здесь работает, а в других Татрах нет? Откуда оно еще может управляться?

---> ...на весь город слышно, как двери открываются. Та же беда с Т3 и KT8D5. Файлы .lua в "Sound_set" смотрел - все дефолтно, никаких отличий, все цифры такие же, как и в других модах. Почему же тогда такая беда приключилась? Помогите, а то всю игру портит... :(

Комрады, выручайте! Не пойму, то ли внимания столько времени не обращал, то ли сломалось что-то.. Звуки не становятся тише при отдалении. Только если очень далеко камеру убарть - то замолкают. А чуть ближе - сразу на максимум... --->

yep, right you are: Ikarus, avtobus, tramvaj, trollejbus, metro - respectively - Икарус, автобус, трамвай, троллейбус, метро =)

Don't worry about a donation - almost nobody gives it, actually, so your lonely help would do nothing. Much better is to find you support us. It is quite a great thing, really!

Wow, thanks for enlightening me. It's hard to find these kind of things for people not using the cyrillic alphabet. But I am actually trying to learn it - my guidewords for decoding cyrillic are actually "Ikarus", "avtobus", "trolejbus", "tramvaj" and "metro" :D.

That's too bad Alex is busy right now. I would gladly give you both a donation because you deserve it, but I'm currently very short on cash. I promise you I will send you a donation when I'll get a still job! So currently, I can only help with finding resources, as I've already mentioned, feel free to ask me, I'll see what I can dig up ;).

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Also many T3 cars are modernised by local tram plants and depots. All the Moscow T3-like cars (MTTCh, MTTA, MTTA2, MTTD) are fully rebuit cars using original metal carcass of old cars. They are something like PCC2 in Philadelphia - looking old, but are more modern inside. These Moscow modernizates are sold to Nizhnij Novgorod, Krasnodar etc.

There are also another modernised versions - in Barnaul, for example.

Inekon T6B5 cars, btw, are working in Ufa city in Russia.

About KT8D5 - there is a problem, because I need Alex_By's help to convert it in game, but he is very busy right now. The model itself is quite ready.

Part 1/2 (good idea to lable the messages, I must say =)).

Actually, so-called K1 is a modernized version of Tatra-Jug (Татра-Юг, litterally "Tatra-South") tram car, wich itself is no more, than licenzed T6B5 built by Juzhmash plant (Dnipro[petrovsk] city, Ukraine).

These cars, and some later versions, are working in Ukrainian cities.

Here are some photoes:
http://transphoto.ru/photo/03/93/53/393532.jpg (Tatra-Jug in Odessa, buit in 1997)
http://transphoto.ru/photo/09/42/93/942937.jpg (K1 in Odessa, built in 2006)
http://transphoto.ru/photo/09/46/71/946717.jpg (K1 - the very first one - in Doneck, b 2003)
http://transphoto.ru/photo/05/00/17/500171.jpg (K1M8 - articulated version - in Kiev, b 2011)

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Overall, it's a shame how the Tatra - ČKD trams development went after 1985. There are atleast still some companies, which makes clones of those legendary trams:

Škoda (and its subsidiaries) [skoda.cz] are modernizing (which is basically a new vehicle) all sorts of these trams.

Pragoimex [www.pragoimex.cz], which is creating new trams mostly based on classic Tatra trams (I must admit, they are quite good), although they are new designs. Pragoimex is also a creator of the low-floor T3R.PLF: http://prazsketramvaje.cz/view.php?cisloclanku=2007040801

There is another manufacturer here - Inekon [www.inekon.cz], which is also refurbishing Tatra trams, mostly for export though.

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These could be actually nice inspirations for your future projects, they would actually fit Cities Skylines even more than the stock versions, because sadly, you cannot go back in time in Cities Skylines.

I know there are some russian companies making new trams based on these aswell. old and AleX_BY created the K-1 for TpF, not sure if it's a real thing (couldn't actually find any info about it using English) which is moreover a modernized T6B5, but what I remember from my lately searches about russian trams, KTM is making some trams still based on T6B5, am I right?

Anyways, I'm looking forward for the KT8D5, good luck with the creation, can't wait to send it down my "high-speed tramtrack" :D

"Flying passenger bug" is fixed!
исправлен баг с "летающим пассажиром"!

yep, moreover, Moscow T7B5's are just "cut version" of KT8B5 or something like that (like KT8D5, but one-sided, cause Moscow also supposed to use articulated trams, but then desided it is too expensive). There should be the serie of tram cars with different length and control complectation, but, allas, only KT8D5 and T7B5 were built (

But I didn't knew what does KT sign mean, thanks!

about my KT8D5 - the model is ready for 90% percents, but it still need a convetation. I hope it will be ready in a week or so.

btw we traveled Moscow-Warsaw-Lodz-Wroclaw-Prague route, so, it was mainly Poland, but I was in Prague five times and I like and know this city qute well for a turist)

There are a lot Russian turists and emmigrants in Prague indeed: we even met a bartender girl from Jekaterinburg, who is studying chemistry in local university.

Thanks for the reply, kowkamurka. Oh, that must've been a nice vacation, I've actually been there a few days ago - celebrating the new year's eve and been with friends. There is a liiittle chance, we've met there as I hear a lot of Russian dudes in Prague.

Anyways, I'm glad you would like to make more Tatra trams and as I've read in different comments - your next work is KT8D5, right? Let me know if you need some info about the vehicles or translating czech sites for you. I'm always glad to help.

Fun fact: KT8D5 was never actually meant to be in Prague, since Prague should have it's own KT8, a KT8A5 (just like the T6), it had narrower front, so these could drive simultaneously in curves. You can't actually do this in Prague with KT8D5. Notice the "KT" sign on the overhead wires, when you get back to Prague sometimes. It means the KT8 driver is forbidden to enter the curve when there is already another tram.

Hi, Jazz! Thanks for reporting the problem - I will try to fix it in the next few day (I know how, but jus returned fron vacation, from Prague, actually).

Yep, I would like to make T6A5 (and T6A2 too), but it is not a priority now.
I can't agree with you about T6A5 is more "true" T6 than B5, couse T6B5 was designed in 1983 and T6A5 - only in 1991. Basically, T6A5 is modernised and adapted to Czech tram works verison of T6B5.

I love the tram, somehow it feels more detailed than the T3 (for example more realistic sounds), there is just one thing that you've probably haven't noticed: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=838539145

The guy in yellow is a passenger of the tram, but he's physically standing outside and he's hitting every building in the way :D.

Btw is there any chance of adjusting this model to make it look like T6A5? This is a T3 with a facelift after all, T6A5 is a true Tatra T6 ;). But do not take this as a beg, i can live without it, just a suggestion.

Проблему, кстати, как всегда вызывала ерунда!

Теперь все работает! Отлично!

Good news, everyone!

Crash problems are FIXED!

Может быть, может быть.

трамвай со штангой сделайте тоже

wat?!!

ZCSACASC

IF YOUR GAME CRASHES,

check HDR setting, some says it should be ON.

@irontom strange but I can use this cat both with and without HDR. Strange stuff. Please, tell me, do use Tatra T3 car? http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=795881064
Test it with and without HDR, does it crash the game? If it is not, I will try to replace mtl files in T6B5 with T3.

@irontom that makes sence, it may be some texture problem. Will try to fix it! Thanks.

Game crash with this tram!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's rly nice tram, but when I set it on line, the game will crash :(

gshfdhdfh

Okay have found the error it must be hdr activated otherwise it would not be nice if you could make it also so that it goes also without hdr

Как скачать не через стим?

Попробовал. Создал новую игру только с ним. Игра загрузилась, при попытке выпустить трамвай на линию проблема та же - сразу вылет.

Ты пробовал начинать игру ТОЛЬКО с T6B5?

Вчера рыскал в папке игры в поисках файла с отчетом об ошибках. Так ничего и не нашел.

Теперь все еще интереснее. Обновил файл трамвая. Загружаю сохраненную игру и в конце загрузки она вылетает с той же ошибкой, что раньше была при запуске трамвая на линию. Создал новую игру, используя все моды, кроме Т6В5. Игра загружается нормально.

its okey

cool

what is going here?

mae mia willyyyy

Oh, I don't know. May be you should look in your Windows aplication log and see wat causes en error. It may be anything.

If I want to send them to the line

to prevent verisonsconflict I updated this asset fith 100%-working on my side car with version, marked 1.2. Try it.

@irontom when buying or when it is shown on line?

好评