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RimWorld

No "Ate Without A Table"
46 Comments
Kenzie_SFT Jul 1, 2023 @ 7:42am 
Thank you. All my guys get this debuff no matter what I've been doing. They sit at tables just fine - and they all permanently have this debuff in every game, no matter what I do.
This "debuff" is totally broken and the fix is a mod like this.
Fiur Jul 30, 2022 @ 5:55am 
Can someone update this please...
Wilihey Feb 4, 2021 @ 10:55am 
i was using this mod and i still had the ate without a table debuff so i think its not working properly, i dont have the knowledge to fix it so rip i guess
Fiur Nov 13, 2020 @ 12:20pm 
@Frenchiveruti - that's actually dumb. xD
Mur Derer Sep 25, 2020 @ 10:53am 
@Lan McG so?
Lan McG Sep 11, 2020 @ 3:01pm 
Working in 1.2? Gonna try it anyway...
Hedgie May 2, 2020 @ 10:04am 
You've done the first step, you now need to open up rimworld and click on mods, hopefully you can see this mod, then click on the red cross, and you should be able to use it
@nocturna76
NoCTuRNa Apr 30, 2020 @ 7:41am 
ok, i've never used steam workshop for any game mods before, so be gentle, but it says 'subscribe to download'... well i subscribed & still can't find any download option anywhere. what am i missing?
Frenchiveruti Apr 9, 2020 @ 10:03am 
Hello there! Can you make the same idea but for "soaking wet" debuff? Thanks
ksymicek Mar 6, 2020 @ 1:45pm 
Thanks CrunchyDuck
BalaurBohemianBroken  [author] Mar 4, 2020 @ 10:18am 
Updated, but not tested. Should work.
ksymicek Feb 27, 2020 @ 6:33pm 
Love this mod, will it be updated for 1.1?
Phil Feb 6, 2020 @ 11:47am 
Thank you! This stupid debuff is ridiculous when I have a 250 beauty dining room literally RIGHT THERE!!
Robotic Jun 26, 2019 @ 9:28am 
no u :br_shock:
handsomegrape Jun 26, 2019 @ 9:25am 
What? It doesn't remove it? Doesn't that mean that the last straw BS happens anyways? If so your mod does nothing.

I had a hardened raider recruited with not a single negative trait but dammit if he wasn't gonna take lack of tables in the freezer sitting down....uh standing up. He flipped...not the table, that he didn't have.
Kordeth Invictus Jan 18, 2019 @ 9:45pm 
but still, gotta laugh and try to imagine,
you are bleeding from all holes, you are sick, your lover died, your dog died, your friend died, you ate a person.
but what was the last straw?
'ate wthout a table'
Enlonwhite Nov 10, 2018 @ 6:22pm 
This mod helps, me have a colony and know. That tables are not the cause of insane rampage deaths.......tho the rampages can still happen. The tables are innocent of all guilt.
BalaurBohemianBroken  [author] Oct 27, 2018 @ 7:59pm 
Heya @mister_aesthetic21, to my knowledge it is 1.0.0. I checked both on my local files and in my workshop files, and both are at that version.
BalaurBohemianBroken  [author] Oct 17, 2018 @ 9:56pm 
thank you, my son. it's good to see one ascend, and finally join our ranks. i welcome you with open space where the table would normally be
the milk man Oct 17, 2018 @ 8:25pm 
I have hidden myself for a long time,
and i have realized that
eating without a table should not cause depression.
I now understand this mod.
BalaurBohemianBroken  [author] Oct 17, 2018 @ 6:56pm 
Oohh, that sucks. I hope using XML doesn't limit you too much. When I get back in to the swing of modding, after I finish up learning C#, maybe I'll be able to help you out with some ideas.
MasonNasty Oct 17, 2018 @ 6:05pm 
Hahaha I feel you; I had the exact same reason. I attempted to make a mod a few months back and what I suggested what on the list, but I met the same roadblock: I don't really know any C# yet. Had to abandon my projects until I take those classes a couple semesters from now.
Glad we both agree with the idea though :)
BalaurBohemianBroken  [author] Oct 17, 2018 @ 5:02pm 
I did look in to this, Mason, but I had a lot of issue getting that to work.
From looking through the code, it seems that the +3 buff is written somewhere in the C# code, which I don't have much experience in. I do intend on coming back at a later date, when I finish my C# courses, to make a separate mod to work in this fashion.
MasonNasty Oct 17, 2018 @ 2:48pm 
HeyCrunchyDuck, please hear me out, I have a simple balance idea:

Rather than gain a -3 debuff for eating without a table, one should instead gain a +3 buff for eating with a table.

Nobody should feel mad about eating on the floor, rather they should feel good when they dont have to. Do you feel that change would be unbalanced or unrealistic?
BalaurBohemianBroken  [author] Oct 3, 2018 @ 7:21am 
when you expand your mind, you understand, that you are the table. you become one with the table. Your legs, the table's legs. Your mouth, the table's top. Only when you understand this, will you be able to advance in life.
the milk man Oct 2, 2018 @ 9:46pm 
this is BY FAR the mod that ANGERS me the MOST
How can you NOT play RIMWORLD without EATING WITHOUT A TABLE and BEING SAD ABOUT IT
BrontoMan Sep 28, 2018 @ 10:10pm 
thanks!
Quilboar Sep 16, 2018 @ 1:12pm 
mod for wusses
Chicken Plucker Sep 15, 2018 @ 2:45pm 
eating without a table has become a core feature in the game, I don't know if I can deal with the huge changes to gameplay but life starts at the end of the comfort zone
BalaurBohemianBroken  [author] Sep 14, 2018 @ 7:44am 
thank.
Avericat Sep 14, 2018 @ 7:43am 
I appreciate and love the time you spend slaving away at blocks of code.
I'm InDaSkies Sep 12, 2018 @ 2:46pm 
I eat without a table than kill my friends and family irl all the time. It's totally a realistic debuff, and the fact that this mod exist just proves that humans are going downhill.
BalaurBohemianBroken  [author] Sep 11, 2018 @ 5:54pm 
You can check in the files, though I'm currently using a patch operation replace on the duration of the ThoughtDef.

If you delete the def, it will throw an error any time you consume a meal. The same happens if you set the duration to zero. Currently it's actually set to 0.0001 days, as that's the shortest time that it made a noticable difference.
Oniwabanshu Sep 11, 2018 @ 5:29pm 
Which patch did you use?
If the problem is that you need it to last more than zero, maybe you should try with 0.0001 or something like that xD
BalaurBohemianBroken  [author] Sep 11, 2018 @ 4:24pm 
Heya Tagiou,
I considered doing that, but I know RimWorld often throws errors if you give a value that lasts lest than a tick.

But I checked, by putting it to said value, just to make sure, and as expected, it threw this [imgur.com] error. I appreciate the suggestion, though.

If my knowledge of C# programming expands, I'll possibly be able to completely remove the thought from appearing in the future.
Oniwabanshu Sep 11, 2018 @ 3:57pm 
You could also patch duration to 0, so you don't even notice it.
BeanSlinger419 Sep 11, 2018 @ 1:39pm 
Finally my Colonists wont break due to this ridiculus Debuff
Enlonwhite Sep 11, 2018 @ 11:36am 
And I doubt you start off with a Fine dining hall at first, so the Ate with table would be the true starting point, plus I am sure the +3 mood buff would be Fair and still work in the vanilla game balance.
Also it just makes no sense on this as a debuff that can Break a pawn, mood bonus makes more sense.
Worst case you just use a mod like this one, and no debuff at all. Cause the table brings them to the fine dining room to eat.
Enlonwhite Sep 11, 2018 @ 11:32am 
As a learning Dungeon Master, the rule that seems to best fit a story is, Reward dont punish, unless the player does somethng really stupid and you warned them before hand.

This is a story driven game am I right?
BalaurBohemianBroken  [author] Sep 11, 2018 @ 11:08am 
I intended to make the "Ate with a table" a separate mod to avoid people from having to be paired with it if they wished not to.

Said proposed mod shouldn't effect you, in that case.
Meat Man (Alfons) Sep 11, 2018 @ 8:21am 
In my opinion, it shouldn't be an 'Ate with table' buff, since they'll still get a bonus from eating in a Dining hall and also enjoing sitting in the chair.
BalaurBohemianBroken  [author] Sep 11, 2018 @ 7:09am 
Of course. I'll look in to making it.
Honestly, I don't even use this mod, but that does sound like the kind I'd use :p
mahottama Sep 11, 2018 @ 5:20am 
I agree with Enlonwhite. Ate with a table should be a bonus for the mood.
Enlonwhite Sep 11, 2018 @ 1:58am 
and still have the old mood pen removed (aka this mod)
Enlonwhite Sep 11, 2018 @ 1:57am 
Actually could your make a mod that Rewards you for building/having tables, aka +3 to mood for Ate with a table?