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Pre-FTL Players - All FTL
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Pre-FTL Players - All FTL

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Start Stellaris in the early days of space travel, when FTL is merely theoretical & a practical drive system has yet to be concieved. All empires except fallen start with no FTL, only 1 of 3 theories. Practical drives must be researched & retrofitted before ships can leave their starting systems. Theory and first drive techs are rare. Exploiting your home system is much more important than in vanilla.

In the meantime, conventional and now ion based thrusters allow ships to set out on multi-year voyages (similar to warp drive but only ~10% as fast) prior to discovery of FTL. Advanced start AIs already did so many years ago & their colonies are well established.

  • No FTL at start, you must research physics labs to get your first practical drive.
  • All FTL types are available for research. Researching multiple theories will help you get a drive faster, but your first may not be your starting choice.
  • 2 STL drives, starting chemical thrusters for 0.5c for science and colony ships, and later fusion powered ion thrusters that move all ships at just under c.
  • Colony ship maintenance reduced to 1 energy per month.
  • FTL Mapmode: Based on Birdy's work, shows the highest FTL technology researched in each empire. Psi > Jump > Wormhole 3 > Hyper 3 > Warp 3> Wormhole 2 > ... all the way down to none. They may have lesser drives also.

STL drive
  • Most travel time is spent in windup/winddown rather than moving, due to a Stellaris bug where ships will not leave the galaxy view on arrival at their destination if they're moving too slowly.
  • Set STL ships off of evasive fleet stance, or they'll abandon a year's worth of windup to switch destinations when a hostile arrives.
  • STL ships show as idle the entire duration of the warp winddown. Send them into an orbit so you know to come back when they're ACTUALLY idle.
  • A scientist can & should support multiple STL science ships due to down time traveling (unless you're RPing).
  • STL ships in a wormhole empire will show the range ring as if they were a wormhole station. Graphical bug only.

Gameplay impacts / advice
Setup: Probably want more AIs than you usually prefer, since several of them will likely still be pre FTL by the time you get FTL. AI production bonuses will help them less (less turn advantage), so you might want to increase difficulty as well.

Builds: Science & physics builds will get a head start on average, but science builds aren't great at rushing and everyone gets plenty of time to build an in-system fleet, so that's probably OK. The +1 research alternative government (and tech) is very powerful here.

FTL research: All practical drives are tech tier 2 and unlocked by the physics lab. The theory techs are rare, but will unlock more practical techs and increase your odds with them. More tech alternatives help a lot. Researching a practical drive makes the other 2 even rarer. So if your favorite doesn't come up first, you have an interesting strategic tradeoff to make.

AI: AI will mostly stick to its first FTL type unless a higher tier drive of another type becomes available, which should be very rare. AI is not great about upgrading its ships, which hurts it more than usual here when starting ships have no FTL. I've tried to fix this, it may have helped.

Event Ships (Pirates/Cultists/Shipyards/etc): Should spawn with the FTL you have. Pirate and cultist events should not trigger until after you get FTL. If you trigger the shipyard or gas giant ship anomalies with STL, you should get jump drive ships. Lots of shoulds, y'all let me know.

Crises: Their calendar trigger dates are unchanged, so you and the AIs will be less ready for them. Unbidden will still be triggered by jump drives, so they'll come later than vanilla.

Please, add your own thoughts / tips / tricks / warnings here. Y'all play my mod a whole lot more than I get to, help each other out.

Pre-FTL players: Only your starting drive type is researchable. A Pre-FTL start to vanilla. To play with FTL types restricted (hyperlane only) you MUST use that mod, not this one. Do not use these two mods together or with Primitive Players.

Future Plans / Hopes
If you want to be part of beta testing, sign up for that mod. Or take an idea from the list & code it

Recommended Mods
I use Echo's Colonizeable Home System. My co-dev @ined77 recommends The Belt for asteroid colonization a la The Expanse. AlphaMod also expands colonization, among many other things.
A colonization mod or rushing droids for expanded colony options is probably almost necessary to really enjoy pre-FTL gameplay.
Arcalane's FTL Scout Probe works fine with STL drives.

Compatibility Issues
Two base game files have been altered, 00_phys_tech and 00_utilities_drives. This mod will not be compatible with other mods that alter these two files. Issues with specific mods are discussed here, please add any you encounter.


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by Pode and Ined77
Popular Discussions View All (9)
May 20 @ 6:08am
Other mods - Recommendations and Compatibility
Aug 15, 2016 @ 2:40pm
Alternative to sublight
Lex Peregrine
Aug 15, 2016 @ 11:33am
Not sure if im being stupid or not.
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gordon519 Aug 17 @ 5:34am 
thanks, i love using this mod for a role playing thing with my friends and im glad to see your still updating it
Pode  [author] Aug 16 @ 1:06pm 
Mostly. There are lingering bugs with event generated ships, and sometimes the AI derps out and refuses to upgrade to FTL. The Enhanced AI mod helps with that issue. I'll do an update for 1.8.
gordon519 Aug 16 @ 12:39pm 
does this mod work for the current version
Pode  [author] Aug 14 @ 8:17pm 
I wrote both, so ask away. This one only affects FTL, Primitive Players sets all of the techs back.
GreatGreenGoo Aug 14 @ 6:34pm 
I am torn between this mod and Primitive Players. Can someone help me out with experience that have tried both?
Pode  [author] Aug 10 @ 8:19am 
You want the Pre-FTL Players version, where your starting FTL choice and settings permanently limit your FTL type just like vanilla.
Mindlessmrawesome Aug 9 @ 8:05pm 
Maybe you could make it possible so that AI empires and you won't get any FTL drives that you ban in the game settings (that setting at the beginning of the game where you can specify what FTL drive you want to allow in your game) because your mod is cool and all, but if I want to play with just hyperdrives in my galaxy your mod kinda ruins it :/
Pode  [author] Aug 3 @ 7:28am 
Zarth, are you also playing a 4K galaxy? That mod may have changed base warp speed and resulted in too slow ships when combined with mine.

Nomad ships screenie came from ined77, not sure how he got it.
[VG]CaptainValls50178 Jul 31 @ 7:45pm 
How'd you get the two Ark ships positioned for the image. Or what mod adds it in to command?
Zarth Jul 29 @ 11:09pm 
im seeing the same bug as [38NC.H] 1st Lt.Niroc and its apparently placed every AI at a stand still while they all wait for their science ships to return.