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More Realistic POP growth
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More Realistic POP growth

Beta V 0.2.5

This is a rework of the population growth model in Stellaris with the goal of changing the pace and keeping the amount of POP down to a level where game performance are maintained.

The intention is that POP will grow much slower at the beginning of the game and that growth later in the game still will feel somewhat meaningful.

The main change is that small planets with low population can't really grow on it's own and will rely on the migration mechanic to grow through the first stage to become a developed world.

Changes from version 0.1

Huge changes to the mod, especially in terms of what the AI can do with the game. I have integrated allot of the changes from Starnet AI that I liked and then added allot of my own changes and most importantly support script that help the AI transition planets from colonies to core and capital planets. The AI even can build Ecumenopolies now.

I will also teach the AI how to terraform planets if they need to do that, but that is a much later project.

In regard to population growth and general changes it should feel roughly like before just that population growth now are slower in the first 100 years... you generally end up at around 300-400 POP after about 100 years.

Planets generally go through these phases... New Colony 1-5 POP, Early rural 5-11 POP, Rural 11-17 POP, developing world 18-39 POP, main world 40-79 POP, core world 80-124 POP and capital world at 125+ POP.

Your first two to three colonies should grow to decent size relatively quickly and be more or less self sufficient in terms of POP growth. After this a second and third wave of colonization will be quite slow to grow as new under developed colonies receive less population than small rural worlds that are small enough to still be a frontier world but large enough to provide security and prosperity to new settlers.

Another major change is how you unlock building slots... you no longer unlock them through building cities. This is too much of a gamey exploit for players, now small insignificant planets will remain insignificant in terms of valuable exotic resource production from specialists. Even perks that grant you extra slots don't appear until the world have grown to a certain size. Building slots now are more valuable... it also help the AI and make it much easier to plan scripts for AI governors.

As I also play with lot's of other mods that in my opinion make the game way better I have also to some degree made this mod to fit into that paradigm. From my experience the game and the mod work best with the following mods installed as well (this is the particular order I use them in).

!!!Universal Modifiers Patch
!!!Universal Resource Patch
UI Overhaul Dynamic (perfect for a 4k screen)
Real Space 3.8
Real Space - System Scale
Real Space - Ships in Scaling Hard
Planetary Diversity
Planetary Diversity (Exotic Worlds)
Planetary Diversity (More Archologies)
Planetary Diversity (Planetary Habitats)
Planetary Diversity (Unique Worlds)
Planetary Diversity (Reworked Habitability)
Planetary Diversity (Planet View)
Potent Rebellions
More Events Mod
Dynamic Political Events
More AI Personalities
More Realistic POP growth
Planet Diversity patch (for my RPG mod to work with it some files needed to be merged)
Combat Rebalance Mod (my second mod specifically for this and real space mod)

My main effort have so far been on regular empires and somewhat on hives. I have almost not touched machine empires as of yet, but they seem to be doing fine and are helped by some AI scripts. Lithoids are somewhat hurt by the new growth mechanics so are a bit weak at the moment. I have given them some benefit, such as cheaper Consumer Goods (sort of) and some better stats.

This is all for now and please comment with bugs and feedback... I mainly do this for my own benefit and share it if someone else like it the way I do.

And remember this is still beta and updates can break things and the mod can possible break things too with bugs... but hopefully it does not melt your computer... ;)
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jorgen_cab  [author] Jun 9 @ 3:58pm 
You are not suppose to use Starnet as it is not compatible with this mod, that is why I have integrated part of Starnet into the mod.
buch0802 Jun 8 @ 9:43am 
good, but have a lot of conflicts with starnet.
jorgen_cab  [author] Jun 1 @ 2:18am 
Look for a mod that has files in the "scripted_triggers" folder and using the "has_upgraded_capital" tag in any of their files. For temporarily fix things then add the following value to that file... "building_minor_capital", "building_machine_minor_capital", "building_hive_core_2", "building_hive_core_3" in the proper places... I think you figure that one out from looking at the trigger.
jorgen_cab  [author] Jun 1 @ 2:09am 
But there are some mod that have used the same scripted trigger as the default one in terms of checking what buildings is considered to be an upgraded capital.
jorgen_cab  [author] Jun 1 @ 2:06am 
Just remove all mods except the ones I have listed and then add them back one by one until you face the issue and you have the answer... what is overwriting what is sometimes not straight forward unfortunately.
Herr Maledictus Made May 31 @ 7:46am 
i did not use the merger of rules but thanks for the info. I use a mod that does the same. But even without that it still happens. i found out that at least one mod thast causes this is acot. but strangely they do not tuch these buildings in the file.
Tiasson May 31 @ 7:11am 
@Herr Maledictus Made
When this happened to me it was caused by the mod The Merger of Rules 3.0, and load-order didn't matter.
Herr Maledictus Made May 30 @ 1:06pm 
strange i have your mod rly late in my load order. so your should overwrite the changes. it works for all colonie worlds. and it wants the building from your mod the developed world and not the vanilla one Planetary Administration. if i ever find out which mod it is i will say
jorgen_cab  [author] May 30 @ 1:01pm 
My son has already requested a few mods such as more ethics and civics, but those are huge to balance with what I have... so we will see.
jorgen_cab  [author] May 30 @ 12:59pm 
I will likely see if I can incorporate some other mods as well eventually, but I need to make the balance and this version feature complete first.