PAYDAY 2

PAYDAY 2

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Can you finish all of the heists without killing anyone?
By ateist_avcisi
If you’re a fan of Fallout series, you probably saw the videos of the youtuber called ymfah. He has a video named “Fallout : New Vegas Without Killing Anyone”. I really liked the video and the challange in the video so i decided to give it a try too in different ways(“Legate Way”), and succedded it. Some weeks after this challange i played Payday 2, and it got me thinking this: Can you finish all of the heists without killing anything?

   
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Now, i have some critters first, and want you to consider by the 2 things i’ll write now:

Q) What is the definition of no kill?

A) What i reconsider by no kill is this ; when you finished the heist, “highest body count number” in crew stats should be zero. I’ll talk about how to keep it zero in a bit

Q) Is there any qualification for completing the heist (like you have to complete it in Deaths Sentence or should be stealth etc.)

A) No, only qualification is completing the heist in any diffucilty and in any way, you can’t rely on stealth always even on “stealthable” heists. Like Scarface Mansion, you have to go loud after you get into the Ernesto’s room. To let somebody do the “killing”.

Now when we considered these 2 above, i shold answer the question “Can you finish all of the heists without killing anyone?”
Answer of the Question
THEORETICALLY, you can. But IN PRATIC, you probaby wouldn’t be able to.

Why you can make it theoretically is this, you know someone has to die in spesific heists, like hotline miami and hoxton’s revenge and AI crewmates’ and Jokers’ kills doesn’t count as “kills”. But in pratic, you can’t rely on them. As you know AI in this games SUCKS. They act more like a bullet sponge, they are not meant for shooting really.

Take “Brooklyn 10-10” for example. I tried this more than 3 times, AI crewmates MAYBE could take down the sniper but they can’t aim down to the mobsters. Jokers could aim down, but they’re buggy, they try to shoot through the walls and their bullets can’t penetrate the wall.
I won’t give a detailed walkthrough for any heist or any build, because i think it’s almost imposible. Even if your jokers managed kill an enemy, it would probably be a lucky shot, not a tactical choice, and when you depend on luck, you’ll probably get bored, which is opposite of reward of this challange; having fun.

Thanks for reading this, i hope you enjoyed reading it, but i doubt it.
My Guide of Fallout Playthrough That I Mentioned
7 Comments
ateist_avcisi  [author] Oct 25, 2020 @ 2:47pm 
I tried what you say with their base weapon,a lmg and a sniper rifle and they only be able to shoot the sniper on "Brooklyn 10-10" when he spawned on of the above flats in the apartments across. They can't aim, let alone shoot enemies down below. Maybe it changes from map to map, maybe i had the wrong perk combination, but i still think you're going to get bored easily when you let the AI do the killing.
Nikolay Oct 24, 2020 @ 5:46am 
"They act more like a bullet sponge, they are not meant for shooting really."
AI can kill. A lot. Much more than most of the community. You just have to give them the right weapons and perks.
ateist_avcisi  [author] Oct 20, 2020 @ 2:00pm 
you're a mad lad.
gabsF Oct 19, 2020 @ 8:20pm 
i did Panic Room pacifist, was a hell
ateist_avcisi  [author] Oct 18, 2020 @ 11:28am 
Thanks for replying, i missed the tutorail heists because they weren’t on the contracts list, but with the same logic “safe house” too is technically a heist, so i consider this based on the contrats list only.

I think you mentioned hotline miami day 2 , but the doors are open in the room where you start which means you can flee.
TaxEvadingDonut Oct 16, 2020 @ 7:45pm 
On the tutorial mission which technically counts as a heist. You are forced to kill which the kill counts as a kill.
TaxEvadingDonut Oct 16, 2020 @ 7:37pm 
I'm pretty sure there's heist where you automatically kill people when you spawn. And I'm pretty sure there are objective's in the game there you have to kill a certain amount of people(cops) which the A.I can't do.