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Publisert: 20. des. 2014 kl. 18.06
Oppdatert: 25. des. 2014 kl. 20.11

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I am edditing my review, I want to be heard and since my Fierhorn79 account is banned and my super old Fierhorn account was perm banned by steam at the request of Doublebear for ban evasion. *The Highlighted Review Below* 
(Brian's DoubleBear statement) http://steamcommunity.com/app/239840/discussions/0/627456359689053892/
My reply to Brian and Dead State Devs
I wanted to take a minute to both defend myself and address Brian and Annie Mitsoda's statements.
When I saw that Brian Mitsoda made a response it gave me hope that he and DoubleBear would address that main reason for my review not just the fact that the Review was wrongfully flagged by someone at Doublebear and then continue into a rant trying to discredit me. That main concern being the business decision to move a game from Early Access to full release during the Steam holiday season. The game on the release date had a long list of known bugs, several of them either game or story breaking. Yes there have been patches and some of the bugs have been fixed, but this does not cancel out they original concern. The choice that was made looks like Doublebear tried to trick gamers into buying a game thinking it was finished when in fact by DoubleBears own known issues list on the day of release it was not done. I and now I think others feel that a company should be held accountable for these type of actions. 
I have never asked for an extreme punishment, all I expected was for Doublebear to say what was going on to cause them to do this and to issue an apology to their loyal fans. Is open communication too much to ask for from the people who funded your game. Instead of dealing with my concerns directly Developers and mods have tried to silence myself and others. 
This game would not be a reality without people like me with our little 30 dollars. The attitude that I have seen from DoubleBear has come off at entitled and ungrateful for the opportunity that has been given to them. 
Now onto less important stuff. My defense.
First of I want to say I was deeply offended by Annie Mitsoda's personal attacks on me on tumblr. Being called a @ickbag & #ucker was far less offensive than the way she disregards my 30 dollars. Just so you know that 30 bucks is three hours of my work day. I might be nothing to you but I put my hard earned money towards your dream.
http://imgur.com/p97JvCI
http://murderblonde.tumblr.com/post/105832304380/exhaustion
Brain and friends at DoubleBear continue to claim I engaged in "abusive comments towards both the devs and mods" and this is why threads were locked and deleted. This is not the case , I as well never harassed anyone. They can't provide screen shot of where I did any of the things they claim because they did not happen. What screen shots of locked and deleted threads they do show are just snippets without showing what anyone else is say. I was never off topic ,never spammed, never directly attacked anyone. The claim that I harassed DoubleBear requesting a public apology be given to the community is just absurd. I was the only one on any of these forums to get banned when there were people making direct personal attacks on me that were defending the developers that were not even given a warning by the DoubleBear mods.
1)First thread was shut down for no good reason.
2)Second one I thought maybe they shut it down because the attacks on me. I knew I did not break the rules so I made another post pasting most of the OP and then adding another paragraph to make it new. This was right away shut down.
3)Third post was a little snarky post about how they shut down post that are on the top that are critical.
4)Fourth post was actually made by another person. This is the one I got banned in and I did nothing except ask Brian to say sorry. Never broke a forum rule once. No warning just a ban. Yes you will notice #114 &115 are back to back but that is only because the I did not copy the second part over from my wordpad. You will notice that there are several posts in between #115 and my next post. Too bad the devs only provide what I say in a attempt to manipulate the way this looks.
http://imgur.com/tjdBGs9
http://imgur.com/Tj84fUi
5)I by this point was not happy. I felt like an American being silenced and someone who my 30 bucks and support was being treated like trash. I contacted the mod(Caidoz) through a private ban email. Its funny how they just provide one snippet of the conversation and deleted the email from my account so I can't provide a picture. Yes I did say I can just create tons of alt account in this private chat. I wanted Caidoz to know his ability to silence had no power over me. I never once said I was going to abuse this and mass spam threads or upvote my own review. First of the time and money it would take to get 300 accounts is ridiculous. 
http://imgur.com/l0XxiVX
I have had this alt account for 6+ years and I did not use it until now to defend myself after many attacks. 
So with all the above being said I am a forgiving gamer. If DoubleBear publicly apologies for the early release and explains why they did it then I think everyone should forgive and get behind this company to help them finish what I think will be a great game when complete. On a personal note I think Brian and Annie Mitsoda's own me a private apology for the slander and attacks personally against me.
Fierhorn79
**********************************Review**********************************
Wanted to start off by saying I was a huge supporter of this game pre Steam Early Access and during early access. I enjoyed beta testing the game for DoubleBear and helping them to use the EA process to better the game. 
I think the game is a blast even in its frustrating buggy state.
Now onto the reason why I think people should not buy this game or support the company DoubleBear for any future games until the Give a public apology.
I don't know about all of you but I found Kickstarter and Steam Early Access to be a wonderful breath of fresh air. I was sick of big AAA and medium sized AA Developers and Publishers pushing out 3/4 made buggy games that after I paid full price for had to wait months before it was patched up and enjoyable. This was the norm and I was sick of it.
So I started supporting only EA and Kickstarter games, more than I could afford at times. Dead State is one of those games and I was very happy to support Doublebear.
Sadly DoubleBear betrayed its fans and sought to deceive new buyers into believing that Dead State was a finished product in order to take full advantage of the Holiday shopping season. Brian and the Dead State team had pages of known bugs and some of them were game and story breaking. 
Ask yourself what reason would a Developer move a product that is known to be a buggy mess from Early Access to calling the game fully released. We the gamers are there Publisher and we were not on their backs pushing them to release the game in a unfinished state in order to reap the profit from the Holiday season. 
My over all point is that when small gamer funded games pull the same fast one as big AAA developers something has to be done about it. This type of behavior and not be rewarded.
These type of actions corrupt the new system from within. If this is allowed to happen then we get get a bunch of small studios acting just like the AAA ones because they can. 
I and many others went onto Dead States forums to ask for an appology and get an answer why they felt the need to move a unfinished game from EA to fully released. We all found ourselves pounced on ,forum post locked and in several cases found ourselves banned. These type of actions are those of people wanting to hide what they did not ones wanting to correct the mistake that was made.
I don't know DoubleBears reasons to fall to to such a low level. If they had funding problems there are so many other more honest options. We gamers have shown ourselves to be very giving.
I ask people to avoid this game until the game is finished

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ADAM & eva hanim 4. juli 2016 kl. 12.21

Most people who shit on this game cuz bugs are owners of skyrim and fallout 4, often both.
I like this double standards.

ADAM & eva hanim 4. juli 2016 kl. 12.09

"And you know what, 30 dollars is a lot"

Says mr 'take my 60$ my dear bethesda' . Nice.

"i will never accept the way you talk to your customers, ban me?"

Sounds like ban policy on bethesda forums. But brandonxmooren does not have any problem with that. That much I'm certain of.

ADAM & eva hanim 4. juli 2016 kl. 12.05

"the customer is always right"

So am i right when i say: bethesda games are total fucking abominations and bethesda deserve to be destroyed for raping fallout series?
As a customer am i right brandonxmooren?

brandonxmooren 6. nov. 2015 kl. 0.26

And you know what, 30 dollars is a lot. wait until yoiu're homeless and then i want to see a snarky comment about 30 dollars, Lastly, grow the fuck up, your company? what company? i didn't even know your companies name without those comments up there, what is it doublebear? some stupid shit like that. you forget one rule in a professional, wait, PROFESSIONAL company, "the customer is always right" so anne i think it is, learn respect little girl, learn it quick. because your behavior is unacceptable.

brandonxmooren 6. nov. 2015 kl. 0.25

i will never accept the way you talk to your customers, ban me? you think i'm scared of that. i was about to purchase this game until i saw the tumblr comments. i for one wouldn't want to burn down your company, but if you have the balls to call a customer a fucker, right or wrong, whether that customer is a bitch or not. you are a piece of a shit. damn right, i would go to war too if i was disrespected, now, i'm not here to defend either party because i do not know what happened, but i did see that post and i did see how unprofessional you are, and i will not give you my 30 dollars.

Nobody 18. juni 2015 kl. 18.40

Check out the bad comments, those are genuine comments made by the players who spent more than 100 hours in this game. I am one of them

A Clockwork Badger 18. juni 2015 kl. 18.22

unfortunatley i bought this somew time ago , didnt know it wasnt finished yet :0 and reading your review and pics ill nevewr buy from this company again ! scum , simply scum

Taffie 18. juni 2015 kl. 16.33

Almost considered buying it, but if the devs are going to act like belligerent children then screw it.

White concrete pressure cleaner 18. juni 2015 kl. 10.28

Was about to purchase this but seeing all the negative views, and further investigation into the developers and some of the extremist views they have it's safe to say I'll never buy a game they publish ever again nor do I hope I have helped such entitled people, a game is complete when it is playable and the full ideals of the developer is met. Expanding on it is an expansion, downloadable content is a money grab exploiting those who enjoy the game.

astangu 14. juni 2015 kl. 10.55

I was going to buy it during the sale but after reading this review I will not

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