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Anti Pre-Order and Day-1 DLC ! NO-MORE!
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ABOUT Anti Pre-Order and Day-1 DLC !

It is up to you to make a difference!

Hello all and welcome!
This group was created first and foremost in order to raise awareness among our fellow gamers regarding the huge illness we have on the gaming industry today:

- Day One DLCs.
- Microtransactions on Pay to Play games.
- Loot Boxes.
- Toxic Pre-order system.
- Imposed DRM(specially Allways Online DRM).


Many of you will instantly relate to what i'm talking about here, others will need some enlightenment in order to comprehend what's going on, how we are the responsables of it, and how is it on our hands or better said in our wallets, the power to stop this.

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Some great explanations as to why Pre-Orders and DLCs overall are bad for us(the consumer) and for the gaming industry in general:

Videos:

TotalBiscuit (may he rest i peace)
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf5Uj4XIT1Y
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0vrJ-y2zM
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-MQMx-nH4Q

AngryJoe
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYSCjGbv3YY
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIogQDIq4po

Jim Sterling
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7EI9YCsuBQ


Articles:

RockPaperShotgun
- http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/03/18/editorial-lets-not-pre-order-games-any-more-eh/

Kotaku
- http://kotaku.com/5909105/stop-preordering-video-games-please

VentureBeat
- http://venturebeat.com/2013/02/15/why-pre-ordering-games-is-never-a-good-idea/
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I second that notion @CampyMcLurkstein. There is already a massive catalogue of very good games out there, many of which have ENB, SweetFX, or ReShade mods available for free which brings them much closer to [insert current year] gaming.

I've been playing games like Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen, Invisible Inc., Pillars of Eternity, Ori and the Blind Forest, and many others. I have built up a library of over 500 games, expecting the gaming industry to take a massive dump on gamers.

Perseverance will see us through. We just have to wait until AAA publishing collapses under their own pile of bullshit. Then developers can go back to making games again, instead of pumping out overpriced Skinner Boxes. :creedy::2spooky::sc_gibberish:
CampyMcLurkstein May 16 @ 2:49am 
To everyone freaking out about how the industry has only gotten worse, and will continue to do so.
Remember we have a rich backlog of older games. Visuals are not everything. I'd rather play the dark tabletop feel of Diablo 1 than Diablo 3 with rainbows for instance.
Learn how to add mods as well. The only reason I stick around here on Steam. The Workshop, it's amazing and still freeware.
I will never play a live service or stream to play. They aren't even fun, and they are always kid-friendly for the current day which does not interest me at all. No Fortnite for me. Too busy playing Manhunt which is far more challenging than playing against the average bunny-hopping casual online.
I've been absent. Playing Diablo 1, Warcraft RTS series (all 3), and other great games that actually keep my mind busy. Not my credit card. War3 on HiveWorkshop is what I like about gaming.
TripleTea Mar 29 @ 9:34am 
It's not neat if there's input delays and freezes...imho, you would still need decent hardware (a good monitor, above average internet connection with 1:1 up/down ratio) to even stream the damn game...so it's really just a stupid ploy like DLCs...obsolete made necessary.

in the end I think only the ISPs and Google would make a shit ton of money while the users will eventually have to pay an arm and a leg just to play a single game.

also, it seems like someone else is footing the bill but with the sub fee(s) it's like your bank account is being drained indefinitely...
Michael Mar 27 @ 1:31pm 
The "idea" behind streaming your games is sort of neat. Rather than having to buy the expensive hardware yourself to run it, you let someone else foot the bill. In theory you would get to play something that's two generations higher than your actual in-home setup.

Still, I would rather have my own setup, and my own copy of the game. I don't rent.
TripleTea Mar 27 @ 11:33am 
I just read more on Google Stadia and seems like you stream your games?....wtf? that's the worst idea to have...so much bandwidth wastage lol...

Google is getting out of hand as well with their Android Play Store acting more and more like Apple's App Store where they force updates down your throats and unless you update, those apps are just icons on your phone...

I'm seriously hoping for a new Google to kick Google's ass since they're turning more and more into Apple as the years go by...:2016whoadude:
TripleTea Mar 27 @ 11:32am 
It sure does sound absurd to me as PSN or Xbox's subscription-based bs...(prolly why I don't game on consoles either lol)

And the thing about "owning our games/products" is the fact that everyone has been accepting all the End-User agreement bs (which nobody even reads or takes seriously) which states that we, "buyers" don't own it at all so there's really no "owning" of anything to begin with, hence leading game companies to make it a standard and think they can keep doing it since the very beginning...

I think the overall success of subscription-based games has been bad so I think the gaming community should be sensible enough to reject Google Stadia bs just like consoles...PC gaming is/was/will be the next big thing...

It's so stupid to even try and limit your playerbase to a specific console and yet they're trying to push it a step further by putting subscription to play?!?:steamfacepalm:
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