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Anti Pre-Order and Day-1 DLC ! NO-MORE!
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ABOUT Anti Pre-Order and Day-1 DLC !

It is up to you to make a difference!

Hello all and welcome!
This group was created first and foremost in order to raise awareness among our fellow gamers regarding the huge illness we have on the gaming industry today:

- Toxic Pre-order system.
- Imposed DRM (specially Allways Online DRM).
- Day One DLCs.
- Microtransactions on Pay to Play games.
- Loot Boxes.


Many of you will instantly relate to what i'm talking about here, others will need some enlightenment in order to comprehend what's going on, how we are the responsables of it, and how is it on our hands or better said in our wallets, the power to stop this.

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Some great explanations as to why Pre-Orders and DLCs overall are bad for us(the consumer) and for the gaming industry in general:

Videos:

TotalBiscuit (may he rest i peace)
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf5Uj4XIT1Y
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0vrJ-y2zM
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-MQMx-nH4Q

AngryJoe
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYSCjGbv3YY
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIogQDIq4po

Jim Sterling
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7EI9YCsuBQ


Articles:

RockPaperShotgun
- http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/03/18/editorial-lets-not-pre-order-games-any-more-eh/

Kotaku
- http://kotaku.com/5909105/stop-preordering-video-games-please

VentureBeat
- http://venturebeat.com/2013/02/15/why-pre-ordering-games-is-never-a-good-idea/
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Liu Roll Sep 20 @ 3:15am 
You don't own your games. You are only renting them from Steam. If you die or close your account, you can't bequeath the games to someone else or download them to your PC. The ownership reverts back to Valve.
Steam was/is the worst thing to ever happen to gaming. There was no "DLC" before steam, there were standalone expansion packs that were basically full games themselves.
Review manipulation, trade scamming, lootboxes, aggressive DLC marketing, online gaming addiction - all started when steam came.
Imagine someone from Microsoft coming to your house and taking all your software away because you were caught cheating in an online game.
The games on my steam account probably add up to several thousand pounds, yet I can be completely barred from accessing them at any time Valve chooses. The idea that you own your steam games is completely wrong. It's ironic really to see how the developers themselves have ruined their own industry through greed. Oh well.
CampyMcLurkstein Dec 22, 2019 @ 4:50am 
Not just ENBs, but the NVIDIA control panel (or AMD) can do some work with aliasing effects. Certain console port types like Dark Souls Remastered are better handled with a GPU than the
in-game aliasing and Vsync options.

Been doing Tiberian Sun recently with a repack made by someone on CNCnet. I actually really like the rough visuals, like Starcraft 1. These graphics don't age. And it looks brutal compared to the more cartoony look of Starcraft 2.

Darkest D and Mistover are randomized dungeon looters with multiple characters to level. Mistover has animes without mods. A new genre of games thanks to the amazing Darkest Dungeon which is very spicy on Nexus and even here on Steam mods. Can't have that in Fallout 76, boring without some cultured mods.
Nemo, Forevermore May 16, 2019 @ 3:13am 
I second that notion @CampyMcLurkstein. There is already a massive catalogue of very good games out there, many of which have ENB, SweetFX, or ReShade mods available for free which brings them much closer to [insert current year] gaming.

I've been playing games like Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen, Invisible Inc., Pillars of Eternity, Ori and the Blind Forest, and many others. I have built up a library of over 500 games, expecting the gaming industry to take a massive dump on gamers.

Perseverance will see us through. We just have to wait until AAA publishing collapses under their own pile of bullshit. Then developers can go back to making games again, instead of pumping out overpriced Skinner Boxes. :creedy::2spooky::sc_gibberish:
CampyMcLurkstein May 16, 2019 @ 2:49am 
To everyone freaking out about how the industry has only gotten worse, and will continue to do so.
Remember we have a rich backlog of older games. Visuals are not everything. I'd rather play the dark tabletop feel of Diablo 1 than Diablo 3 with rainbows for instance.
Learn how to add mods as well. The only reason I stick around here on Steam. The Workshop, it's amazing and still freeware.
I will never play a live service or stream to play. They aren't even fun, and they are always kid-friendly for the current day which does not interest me at all. No Fortnite for me. Too busy playing Manhunt which is far more challenging than playing against the average bunny-hopping casual online.
I've been absent. Playing Diablo 1, Warcraft RTS series (all 3), and other great games that actually keep my mind busy. Not my credit card. War3 on HiveWorkshop is what I like about gaming.
TripleTea Mar 29, 2019 @ 9:34am 
It's not neat if there's input delays and freezes...imho, you would still need decent hardware (a good monitor, above average internet connection with 1:1 up/down ratio) to even stream the damn game...so it's really just a stupid ploy like DLCs...obsolete made necessary.

in the end I think only the ISPs and Google would make a shit ton of money while the users will eventually have to pay an arm and a leg just to play a single game.

also, it seems like someone else is footing the bill but with the sub fee(s) it's like your bank account is being drained indefinitely...
Michael Mar 27, 2019 @ 1:31pm 
The "idea" behind streaming your games is sort of neat. Rather than having to buy the expensive hardware yourself to run it, you let someone else foot the bill. In theory you would get to play something that's two generations higher than your actual in-home setup.

Still, I would rather have my own setup, and my own copy of the game. I don't rent.
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