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StuckinaPickle Aug 29, 2014 @ 2:19pm
Tournament Information
How do I find a tournament?
We will post an announcement for every upcoming tourney at least a day before the Tournament starts with links to the Challonge Sign-up page and the Challonge Check-in/Bracket page.


How do I participate in a tournament?
All you need to do is sign-up for the tourney on the Challonge Sign-up page for that particular tourney. Of course you still need to show up when the tournament starts and make sure to check-in at the Challonge Check-in/Bracket page.
IMPORTANT: Be sure to join the Steam Group chat before the tournament starts and stay there for the duration of your tournament life.


What if I don't want to make a Challonge account?
For those people who don't want to make a Challonge account the Tournament Organizers will be in the Steam Group chat adding them in manually during the check-in time.
If you plan to be added this way show up early, if you show up 5 minutes before check-in closes there is a good chance you won't be added.


I signed-up for the Tournament but I realized I can't make it, what do I do?
All you have to do is unregister yourself from the Tourney. To do this go to the Tournaments Challonge page and click on the blue button "Go to your settings" near the top of the page, then on the next page click the red button labeled "Unregister". Now you are removed from the Tournament.

IMPORTANT:
How do I join group chat?
To join the chat you can either go to our Steam Group overview page and there is a "Enter chat room" button over near the top right side. You can also join the chat by going to your Steam Friends List then click the "GROUPS" tab, find Lethal League tourneys, click the little down arrow and then go to "Join group chat room".

IMPORTANT:
How do I report a match?
The match LOSER reports the results of a match in the Lethal League Tourneys Steam Group chat or in a PM to one of the Tournament Organizers; the proper way to report a match is as follows:

LoserName: [Report] WinnerName 2-1

With 2-1 being the score of the matches, always try and put the winning number first as in 2-1 not 1-2. Also note that you don't type your own name that's just showing what the message would look like in chat, what you send is just [Report] WinnerName 2-1.

If registered on Challonge, the loser may also enter the score directly. To do so click on the question mark next to you or your opponents name in the bracket for your finished match (or click on the button up at the top of the Challonge bracket page that says “Report Your Scores”). Depending on how the it is set up for that particular Tournament you will either need to enter a 1 on a players side for a won set, or enter the number sets won next to each players name for the final match score, after that you must select the overall winner and click “Submit Scores”. The Tournament Organizer may disable this function if problems arise.

RULES:
  1. Sign-up Name = Steam Name. If you sign-up as JoeShmoe change your Steam Name to JoeShmoe, this is the only way we can identify players. If you sign-up on Challonge you can specify an alternate name other than your Challonge account name so use that to make sure your names match, or change your Steam Name to match your Challonge Name.
  2. MAKE SURE to be in chat for the full length of your tournament life. If you are not in chat and your match gets called you will lose your match (We will try to be a little lenient but we want to make this tournament run as smooth as possible)
  3. If your match is called you will have 5 minutes to respond before forfeiting the match (we will PM you if you don’t respond in chat and let you know you have 5 minutes to respond)
  4. There is no need to wait for your match to be called, as soon as the tourney starts you are free to challenge your opponents based on the brackets, just make sure that the person you are challenging is your actual opponents based on what the Challonge bracket shows.
  5. If you have to drop out of the Tournament let one of the Tournament Organizers know so they can DQ you from the tourney.
  6. For players that have a ping of 200+ to each other: both players can agree to play a 4 stock practice match before your official Tournament matches to help adjust to the lag.
  7. Based on the Tournament Size the top 4-16 are Seeded, the seeding is based off recent past preformance and attendance.
  8. A tie game counts as a win for both Players UNLESS it would cause either Player to win the set, in that case a 4 Stock match is played to determine the outcome of the match.
We will try to be as fair as possible with the rules; everything is just in place to help make the tournament the best experience it can be for everyone involved.

Since these are online Tournaments we can't exactly enforce every rule, therefore it's up to the players to make sure their matches are played properly according to the rules.

1v1 GAME RULES:
1v1 Double Elimination, Best of 3, All Finals Best of 5 (Winners, Losers and Grands)

Host: Defaults to top seed in the bracket, if there are connection problems you may try to let the other player host, or if no one cares it is up to the player’s discretion.

Mode: FFA or TDM (Use TDM if you want to avoid black skin on City Streets)

Stocks: 8

Time Limit: 5:00

Ball Tagging: On

Min Ball Speed: 8

Big Ball: Off

Stage: Random (Gentlemen’s Agreements allowed) [Opt-in Stage Selection, look below for rules and infomation on this]

Input Delay: Player’s choice

Characters: You can only switch your character after a loss, also if you pick Random you stay on Random unless you want to change your character after a loss

Stage Selection
If either player opts to do so then stage selection will proceed as follows (Smash style stage selection)

First Match:
  • Players take turns striking(banning) stages in a set pattern until only one stage remains, which then becomes the starting stage you play on
  • The pattern for stage striking is Player 1 strikes 1 stage, Player 2 stikes 2 stages, Player 1 strikes 2 stages, and finally Player 2 strikes 1 stage (1-2-2-1-1-2 where 1 is player 1 striking and 2 is player 2 striking)
  • Player 1 = Host
All Other Matches:
  • Loser of the last match selects their Character (no changing once selected)
  • The winner of the last match bans one stage
  • The losers then picks any stage from the remaining 6 stages

Stage Short Forms:
To get everyone on the same track I'll list the proper names of stages and a short form that they go by
  1. Industrial Outskirts - Desolace
  2. Abandoned Pool - Pool
  3. Underground Sewer System - Sewer
  4. Room 21 - Room
  5. City Streets - City
  6. Hammer Express - Train
  7. State Manufacturing Facility - Factory
These are the most common short forms but not all of them, personally I would use a numbering system as in 1 = Industrial, 2 = Pool and so on, but that might be too confusing for some people.

Below is an image that will come in handy when doing stage striking
Stage List Image: http://i.imgur.com/3czilLM.png

Example:
Here's a simple example of how a stage strike would go in private chat between two people, BadShot and YinYin, in this case BadShot is host and the match is a best of 3

BadShot: Lets do stage striking, I ban Desolace
YinYin: I ban factory and train
BadShot: sewer and pool
YinYin: city, that leaves room lets go!
BadShot: Alright Room 21 it is.
BadShot: Oh noe I lost, your ban
YinYin: take out train
BadShot: Alright we're going factory then!
BadShot: Woo, 1-1 I'll ban Room, les go!
YinYin: k, I pick desolace
BadShot: Alright
YinYin: ggs
BadShot: Good games =)

Even doing this example I had a little trouble with the actual stage striking as it's not that easy to do in your head, use the image up above to help remember stages. Maybe we can make something better down the line to make it even easier but for now try to keep a list handy somewhere (or use the image) and someway of tracking whats been banned to make it easier on yourself and your opponent.
This type of stage selection only happens when ONE of the players playing chooses to do so, you can still choose to pick a random stage if neither player wants to do stage striking, but if one player wants to do so then you have to go through with stage selection. Also gentlemen's agreements are still allowed for stage selection.

GAME RULES FOR 2v2
2v2 Double Elimination, Best of 3, All Finals Best of 5 (Winners, Losers and Grands)

Host: Defaults to top seed in the bracket, if there are connection problems you may try to let another player host, or if no one cares it is up to the player’s discretion.

Mode: TDM

Stocks: 8

Time Limit: 6:00

Ball Tagging: On

Min Ball Speed: 8

Big Ball: Off

Stage: Random (Gentlemen’s Agreements allowed), [Opt-in Stage Selection, look above for rules and infomation on this]

Input Delay: Player’s choice

Characters: You can only switch your character after a loss, also if you pick Random you stay on Random unless you want to change your character after a loss

EXTRA 2v2 RULES:
  • Spawn Positions: If you really care about Spawn Positions then have the host's teammate join first then the other two, you will also most likely have to remake the game if the order changes after rematching. If no one cares about the spawn positions then you are free to play with random positions.
  • Team Colours: Top seed gets first choice of Team Colour. Teams can choose between any colours except there can only be one of green or yellow, so if one Team chooses green the other team can't be yellow and vice versa.

GAME RULES FOR 2v2 Strikers
2v2 Double Elimination, Best of 3, All Finals Best of 5 (Winners, Losers and Grands)

Host: Defaults to top seed in the bracket, if there are connection problems you may try to let another player host, or if no one cares it is up to the player’s discretion.

Mode: Strikers

Points: 10

Time Limit: 6:00

Ball Tagging: On

Min Ball Speed: 8

Big Ball: Off

Stage: Random (Gentlemen’s Agreements allowed)

Input Delay: Player’s choice

Characters: You can only switch your character after a loss, also if you pick Random you stay on Random unless you want to change your character after a loss

EXTRA 2v2 STRIKERS RULES:
  • Team Colours: Top seed gets first choice of Team Colour.

GAME ISSUES:
  • In the event of a game disconnect, crash or desync during a tournament match the players will replay the match with the same characters and stage and stocks remaining, when a crash happens make sure to take a screenshot of the score screen to see the stocks and all the other relevant information.
  • If two players are unable to finish their round they can decide amongst themselves who wins the match, if a decision cannot be made and the next round already has a player waiting the Tournament Organizers will let the player with the better connection to the next opponent advance.

STREAMING:
If you can stream and it doesn’t affect your matches with extra lag feel free to do so. We encourage streaming as it lets even more people enjoy the tournament. But please don’t have your Steam Name as twitch.tv/namehere. If people are looking for Streams we will link them to http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Lethal%20League. It would also be helpful to put [LLTourneys] at the start of your stream title to help identify that you are currently competing. Hopefully Lethal League will get a spectator mode in the future so that we will always be able to stream top 4 or maybe even top 8.

PLAYER CONDUCT:
  • Be respectful of other players, don’t use any hate speech, act aggressive or negatively to your fellow players, everyone is here to enjoy the Tournament and have fun.
  • Don’t spam the chat! The chat is how we communicate game results and everything else; if you’re spamming nonsense in chat you will be kicked.
  • Ask before joining someone else’s game, and only join if they tell you it’s alright to do so. If you repeatedly join other player’s games without permission you will be kicked from chat.
If you choose not to follow the Player Conduct you will be warned, and if you continue to do so afterwards you will be kicked from chat and if there is a Tournament going on at the time that you are participating in you will also be DQed. If you constantly refuse to conduct yourself in a proper manner you will be banned from chat and from participating in Tournaments. We will try to be fair when issuing kicks/bans and will only resort to them if the situation can't be resolved otherwise.

OTHER:
  • On the Challonge bracket a score of 1-0 is a match that was unable to be played (players couldn't connect to each other) and was resolved by the players or by a Tournament Organizer.
  • A score of 0-0 happens when a player get's DQed from the Tournament (generally because they forget that there is a losers bracket).
Last edited by BadShot; Jul 25, 2015 @ 12:47pm
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kuko Aug 29, 2014 @ 4:09pm 
Will there be a tournament next saturday? Or sometimes after the 4th of september?I would really like to sign up with my friend, so could it be 2v2 Team mode? I would play the hell out of a tourney like that! Also,post your tourney thing on reptile forums.
StuckinaPickle Aug 29, 2014 @ 4:41pm 
We are working on getting interest, we will have tourneys of modes 1v1. ffa and team modes, we are still groqing thogh, but this should grow quite fast being one of the only tourney communities for this game!
For team deathmatch, do we get to pick our team mate?
Additionally, do the different modes take place at the same time? Will we be able to do both 1v1 and 2v2?
Last edited by Doctor Octohedron; Sep 3, 2014 @ 4:19pm
StuckinaPickle Sep 3, 2014 @ 4:33pm 
Originally posted by Trunk Muffins:
For team deathmatch, do we get to pick our team mate?
Additionally, do the different modes take place at the same time? Will we be able to do both 1v1 and 2v2?

No, different modes are on seperate days as it's hard for people to get brackets in the caht with many touenys going on, and in 2v2, when you signup you will either say that you would like to be placed witha teammate or that you already have a teammate and you post the nme of that player.

Justin, add me for more questions!
Tenerus Sep 4, 2014 @ 3:43pm 
1v1 should have more than default stock, or more rounds to play, 6 isn't much
StuckinaPickle Sep 4, 2014 @ 5:29pm 
its gonna be best of 3
Tenerus Sep 5, 2014 @ 6:09pm 
Thanks for clearing that up, but it should be 8 stock, best of 3.
:3
Doobinn Sep 6, 2014 @ 12:01am 
What are we supposed to do about lag. If someone has a really bad connection, the game becomes virtually unplayable, and no longer based on skill. I don't know about this first tournament, but I think if the playerbase is big enough, we should have US tournaments and EU tournaments to avoid lag issues.
kuko Sep 21, 2014 @ 12:43pm 
Hello. I would love to participate in some 2v2 tournament. I mean, there was 5 1v1 tournaments already and another coming up on 28th. I really think it's time for another gamemode to be introduced
YinYin Nov 24, 2014 @ 3:14am 
I updated the tournament information:

  • Being realistic on our announcement time: at least a day before the tournament.
  • Added a description on self submitting scores to challonge.
  • Changed the host default details to change upon connection issues or if no one cares as there is no host advantage.
  • Changed "black skin advantage" to "avoid black skin on City Streets"
  • Spawn positions in 2vs2 matter - I described how you may influence them if you wish to.
  • Added 2vs2 Strikers rules.
  • Updated game issues/random match decisions - it is beyond anyone but the participant in question to determine if someone is the cause of connection problems, a respectful participant will forfeit in that case. For other cases random match decisions are now limited.
Last edited by YinYin; Nov 24, 2014 @ 3:15am
YinYin Jul 3, 2015 @ 10:16am 
Updated the game issues section in favour of tournament progression to reflect how I have already handled the recent tournaments I hosted myself and to not rely on random decisions for Jaw Breakers 2015.
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