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The Framerate Police ThirtyFPS
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Stonium Jul 16, 2015 @ 9:45pm
Developers Are Capible of Hiding From the Police
Clearly some developers do not like the 30 FPS police telling people that their game doesn't run at 60. Even if it doesn't actually affect the game, something about a message telling people the framerate cap of a game is unnerving to developers. I am, of course, speaking of the Guild of Dungeoneering. This game thought it necessary to hide the framerate cap from people not subscribed to this curator. This picture [i.imgur.com] shows incognito mode on the right (so I am logged out), and normal mode on the left. Notice how the 30 FPS icon is gone, and the 6 icons now includes some curator with one subscriber. Anyone who even looks at the screenshots could tell that this game doesn't need 60 FPS playing this game at a lower framerate theoretically doesn't disadvantage the player, and yet the developers still decided to discreetly censor this group. If developers are given complete control over the store page, even the curators, then we will surely see more dirty tactics from desperate publishers and indies in the future.
Last edited by Stonium; Jul 16, 2015 @ 11:33pm
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Slypear Jul 16, 2015 @ 10:46pm 
"...this game doesn't need 60 FPS,"

Hogwash, fellow!

On topic, I'm half-sure that developers can't choose what curators show up and which don't. It's more based on how popular and large the curator is. This being a budding group, I'm sure it'll show up natively eventually. I may be wrong.
Stonium Jul 16, 2015 @ 11:32pm 
Originally posted by Slypear Awake:
This being a budding group, I'm sure it'll show up natively eventually. I may be wrong.
On that, I have visited other games in incognito and 30FPS has appeared just fine. Maybe it is something on my end, but considering that a curator with only 1 subscriber is showing up in place of this is rather worrying. Not that I have anything against that curator, but I assumed that Steam sorted curators by subscriber count, and said group shows up on really popular games like Binding of Isaac. Oh and, and in other news, I fixed my original post.
Genna Bain Jul 17, 2015 @ 7:02am 
There is nothing we can do about devs blocking the curator, except that it will show up anyway if you follow the curator (so you should do that)
Slypear Jul 17, 2015 @ 7:16am 
Originally posted by TotalBiscuit:
There is nothing we can do about devs blocking the curator, except that it will show up anyway if you follow the curator (so you should do that)

Thanks for clearing that up.
Steaz Jul 17, 2015 @ 7:48am 
Originally posted by Stonium:
Clearly some developers do not like the 30 FPS police telling people that their game doesn't run at 60. Even if it doesn't actually affect the game, something about a message telling people the framerate cap of a game is unnerving to developers. I am, of course, speaking of the Guild of Dungeoneering. This game thought it necessary to hide the framerate cap from people not subscribed to this curator. This picture [i.imgur.com] shows incognito mode on the right (so I am logged out), and normal mode on the left. Notice how the 30 FPS icon is gone, and the 6 icons now includes some curator with one subscriber. Anyone who even looks at the screenshots could tell that this game doesn't need 60 FPS playing this game at a lower framerate theoretically doesn't disadvantage the player, and yet the developers still decided to discreetly censor this group. If developers are given complete control over the store page, even the curators, then we will surely see more dirty tactics from desperate publishers and indies in the future.


This kind of thing was inevitable, from the stand point of the developer they want their product to be shown with its best foot forward. It's different from censoring critique or opinion on the game, stating it has a 30fps lock is objective information and that’s where the real problem lies, in my opinion.

The best thing we can take away from this is that the curator listing on their game warranted a reaction from the developer meaning this is now on their mind going forward with new projects as they clearly now see that it is something the PC market cares about. We are having an affect, lets keep it up.
Last edited by Steaz; Jul 17, 2015 @ 7:50am
Nukerock Jul 17, 2015 @ 11:06am 
Can we get a steam curator/list of devs currently hiding from the police?

Yaginku Jul 17, 2015 @ 11:10am 
While I know this group is about everything but shaming, I believe that purposefully hiding objective information away from your customer is malicious. Guild of Dungeoneering looked fun and I wanted to pick it up, but now I'll wait for the future events to unfold, regarding the whole blocking thing.
Demiourgos Jul 17, 2015 @ 11:19am 
Post the list of shame, with all the developers who do that.
They're still going to have the curator groups on the page if you sign up, it seems like going a step further to create a list of developers who have blocked it. Anyone who wanted to could claim it's a "hit list" of some kind wherein TB is sending fans after Devs who block his group. All of which is pointless when you still get to see the tag if you're in the group.

At the end of the day this is for the customers, isn't it? If Devs take notice that'd be good but I have mixed feelings about lists of this kind.
Nukerock Jul 17, 2015 @ 11:37am 
What if I want to both know if its locked at 30fps and know if the developer has decided that is information I should not be aware of?
Maybe steam should add an option to see which curators are being blocked even if you can't read their message.

Anyone who wants to claim this list is a hit-list can also do so, and has already done so.
They are within their right to look dumb and we are within ours to not care.
wuddih Jul 17, 2015 @ 12:08pm 
I cannot reproduce that with that game. If I follow this curator or not doesn't change that it will be displayed under "view all" to see all curators.

So please give clear examples with clear evidence, since that is not the case here.

edit: cleared it up with someone. The main curators on a games store page, count of maximum of 7, cannot be influenced by a dev. The 7 displayed curators are purely based on a ranking system by Valve, which is also influenced by curators you follow. So the curators shown are personalized for every user.
Last edited by wuddih; Jul 17, 2015 @ 12:14pm
Steaz Jul 17, 2015 @ 12:15pm 
Originally posted by wuddih:
I cannot reproduce that with that game. If I follow this curator or not doesn't change that it will be displayed under "view all" to see all curators.

So please give clear examples with clear evidence, since that is not the case here.

edit: cleared it up with someone. The main curators on a games store page, count of maximum of 7, cannot be influenced by a dev. The 7 displayed curators are purely based on a ranking system by Valve.

That's good to know, but is that a reliable sauce?
Aaron Jul 17, 2015 @ 12:22pm 
This sucks but there is nothing to be done about it other than to spread the word about the curator and get as many people following it as possible. They can't hide it that way.
Last edited by Aaron; Jul 17, 2015 @ 12:22pm
bytestream Jul 17, 2015 @ 12:29pm 
Can we get a "these games block the curator" sticky?
wuddih Jul 17, 2015 @ 12:37pm 
Originally posted by Steaz:
Originally posted by wuddih:
I cannot reproduce that with that game. If I follow this curator or not doesn't change that it will be displayed under "view all" to see all curators.

So please give clear examples with clear evidence, since that is not the case here.

edit: cleared it up with someone. The main curators on a games store page, count of maximum of 7, cannot be influenced by a dev. The 7 displayed curators are purely based on a ranking system by Valve.

That's good to know, but is that a reliable sauce?
tested it with a dev. he blocked the curator, didn't change anything.

example of how you influence the list:
http://i.imgur.com/EBLaGb4.png followed 2 more lower ranked curators
http://i.imgur.com/CJPDhwT.png not followed.

also from http://store.steampowered.com/curators/recommendedcurators/
How are Recommended Curators Picked?

Steam recommends curators to follow based on the games those curators recommend and how well we think those fit with the games you've been playing recently.
they also might use that algorithm or similar stuff for the games storepage.

some stuff only runs weekly on steam, and the framerate police is only there since 15th of july. so wait at least until next tuesday(steam maintenance day) before sharpening your pitchforks and setting up ancient witchhunt lists, thx.

i hate it when people jump on the hate bandwagon that quickly without any proof.

edit:
for additional disclaimer, the dev blocked every single admin or owner of the group of the curator, since you CANNOT block groups or curators directly. should have mentioned that at first.
Last edited by wuddih; Jul 17, 2015 @ 12:46pm
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