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Balancing a Hero: OP Juan Shinobi weapons as a case study

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SaltyDone Feb 21, 2015 @ 9:08am 
this is nothing about the character but i cant find a dang MATCH idk everyone esle is it looks like
Puffanec Feb 13, 2015 @ 1:49pm 
did you ever think of nerfing scientist? maybe? huh? .......
Ridro Feb 12, 2015 @ 10:48pm 
problem with katana now is that it has been nerved a lot so players wont use the katana a lot since it has a lot less damage and time isnt really whats needed for meelee weapons , its damage
Godfather Yogibear Feb 10, 2015 @ 2:00pm 
I think it was a good thing that they nerved him, because now you have to be more sneaky and hit from behind to set the risks as low as possible.

It is true that he would heal 50% of his health by just killing but his true power should have lied within his teleportation (inclouding wallclimbing) and not at his katana (which is now more of a thing)

so yeah even I someone who plays as Op very frequently apreciate this new nerved OP
to be more difficult to play with because it adds the need of more layers and stratagies to the game witch is a good thing after all

Ps: at all OP players: don´t cry like little blockheads just step up your goddame game
ThrillHouse Feb 6, 2015 @ 8:04pm 
The problem with him is he just feels like BS. Even with out lag he can chunk you down while under full fire by you. He doesn't have to flank you or be sneaky. He just has to hold sprint and start swording you and chances are he'll get the kill and heal back to half from your HP drop.

That's no fun. That's just obnoxious. He's not doing much to help his team over any other character, he's not providing you with a fun battle either. He's pointless to be in the game like this.

Rethink how you balance him. Make him melt to direct fire but deal increased damage from the back or something. Reward OPs who play sneaky. Make me feel like I died to him because he played SMART. Not because he played like a melee Cog and walked at me attacking.

I do applaud you guys for working this hard on balance. Being that this is a goofy block game I don't expect developers to spend much time thinking about advanced balancing.
SallyTheButcher Feb 6, 2015 @ 8:20am 
To combat this as Sarge I would disengage those up close and personal duels may retreat while dropping a cheeky little grenade at your feet for them to run onto. If the grenade hits them you can re-engage at an advantage, and if not you can regroup with a hero better equipped to deal with a threat at close range You could also get to a more effective range for you weapons, even a little space will allow you to pot shot them with a rocket & gain the advantage you need as Sarge in a 1v1 fight.
SallyTheButcher Feb 6, 2015 @ 8:19am 
Hey coreym121, great feedback!

Your point about Sarge at close range may be something to do with him having the accuracy increase (aim) on his RMB & at very close range, I don't know about you, but I am reluctant to pull up my sights as it would negatively impact your visibility at such close range.

Compare this against Cogwheels's capability at the same range and he shreds next to Sarge as his RMB alt fire while uses a slightly wider cone fires multiple shots at once meaning the damage done is pretty significant with little/no loss to accuracy (wider cone simply makes it less effective at greater range).
coreym121 Feb 1, 2015 @ 5:35am 
Or maybe it just i am not good with sarge. Something i have been experiencing.
coreym121 Feb 1, 2015 @ 5:33am 
The people who were complaining about sarge the gun does a need an increase yes but i want to point out something. How come at closer ranges when they are in front of my face and i shoot with cogwheel its all accurate and aims where i shoot.

With sarge however i shoot targets right infront of me and so few bullets make contact. Is it the accuracy on the weapon? If there is a way to buff that do it. Or just buff sarge again so the few bullets that make contact do considerable amounts of damage. I think rockets should be a option in combat not necessary to win fights.
coreym121 Feb 1, 2015 @ 5:26am 
Eliza is the angel of death...Overboard...