The job market in the US is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ grim for IT,software tech in general

[BigBallinChester]

I'm usually optimistic about this country but when it comes to Jobs it's always been the absolute hellscape of a place. Getting an entry level(or even internship) IT or software job in the US is basically like being a senior level software position. I've actually looked at software jobs overseas just to compare.

Places like India just have basic HTML developers, and jobs with requirements that are "show up and dress nice". Granted they aren't paid as well as American jobs but I'd rather have a job with little requirements like them and pays 50-60K a year vs 100K a year for a job where I have to know every language under god.

[Obelisk]

AI is taking over tech jobs. It's only going to keep getting worse as AI takes over many jobs.

[Mang]

Originally posted by Wormtail:

AI is taking over tech jobs. It's only going to keep getting worse as AI takes over many jobs.

So everyone can just be a NEET and collect UBI like Elon says, win-win for everyone imo

[A&A]

Originally posted by Wormtail:

AI is taking over tech jobs. It's only going to keep getting worse as AI takes over many jobs.

Eh? CAD software was supposed to take over a lot of the jobs too, but it doesn't seem to be the case.

[Fake]

Wendy's is hiring. Feel free to grab a job application.

[BigBallinChester]

Originally posted by Mang:

Originally posted by Wormtail:

AI is taking over tech jobs. It's only going to keep getting worse as AI takes over many jobs.

So everyone can just be a NEET and collect UBI like Elon says, win-win for everyone imo

I WISH that was true. But you can't trust companies to even pay taxes without finding legal loop holes to dodge taxes. What makes you think they will suddenly have a change of heart and start paying towards UBI? I love capitalism and I like the idea of UBI now but come on man, you know these bastards will do anything to dodge paying towards UBI

[Spencer]

Tech is dead. I'm done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycfPF1gkNpE

[BigBallinChester]

Originally posted by Spencer:

Tech is dead. I'm done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycfPF1gkNpE

To be fair, he's been saying Tech is dead for a while. It's actually his job at this point to talk about how he used to be a programmer.

[ナルゴ]

The low hanging fruits of software development have been automated decades ago. You can easily create a fresh project with all the bells and whistles pre-installed, only leaving the developer with the job of customizing it.
It's so mindless that even minimum wage junior devs and interns can be productive with it.
And that's before we get into lazy developers trying to generate terrible code with AI.

I can tell you right now that even in these developing countries, nobody is going to hire someone who just knows basic HTML lol.

Also:

Originally posted by m662:

Most company hires have no clue what they ask when it comes to requirements.

This is true. The requirements are often just copy-pasted by non-technical HR people based on the qualifications of whoever previously held the job slot.
It also serves to filter out people who possess so little confidence in their abilities that they'd avoid applying at all.

The only thing that matters IMO is getting through the initial HR interview and then meeting the actual representatives of the dev team in the technical panel. They'll be the ones to gauge if you have the skills and character capable of fitting their team's needs.

As long as you know your stuff, you'll be fine.

Since you mentioned HTML, I'm going to assume you're looking for a web-development job.

Thus here are my suggestions.
1) It helps to have a live custom-made website to show off. Something tangible that the technical panel can access and tinker with.

2.) When presenting your website or some other web-related project. Be sure to explain your decision-making. Why did you make the website. What purpose does it serve? Why did you choose your particular tech stack? Why did you choose this particular architecture? Why did you choose this particular platform to host the project on? What are the advantages & disadvantages of doing it your way as opposed to how some other people build their websites?

3.) Work on your soft-skills. This is incredibly under-appreciated in the tech sector. Especially by youngsters. People will absolutely make hiring decisions based on how well you're perceived as being able to work with a team. You must be able to talk clearly and effectively, be transparent, be open to criticism, be someone that a team would love to have.

4.) And of course, leet code. You should be able to demonstrate the ability to do basic coding challenges. You should know your fizz buzzes, sorting algorithms, binary trees, and recursion, etc

[aka]

Just try harder, work harder & be better, it makes a difference.

The world is your clam.

You're welcome my friend

[xDDD]

That's what getting into an over-saturated field will get you.
Most other university fields are similar, but nothing (of the REAL fields) is quite as bad as Computer Science currently.

[Fake]

Originally posted by xDDD:

That's what getting into an over-saturated field will get you.
Most other university fields are similar, but nothing (of the REAL fields) is quite as bad as Computer Science currently.

Of course it was going to get over saturated.

All those journos told people to learn to code if they need another job.

[MistuhG]

The trick is to get an IT job 20 years ago and stay there.
Why don't you try that?

[Dutchgamer1982]

usa wages are truelly insane...

my 2 brothers are both mastergrade educated IT specialists. with over 2 decades of experience
one even had it's own multi million buisnuis working on making online banking safe...
they are often headhunted..

yet both earn less than 60k a year.. and thats BEFORE our dutch 42% income tax is taken off that.

100k wages are INSANE like a few dentists and our prime minister may earn that.. but the medial wage is 42k which usually needs a bachalor or master degree and couple of years of experience to even get near..

than again.. here our minimumwage is a little over 14 euro, or 2000 euro a month...
meaning we may not have those insane wages.. but neither the insane poverty of usa.

[xDDD]

Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:

usa wages are truelly insane...

my 2 brothers are both mastergrade educated IT specialists. with over 2 decades of experience
one even had it's own multi million buisnuis working on making online banking safe...
they are often headhunted..

yet both earn less than 60k a year.. and thats BEFORE our dutch 42% income tax is taken off that.

100k wages are INSANE like a few dentists and our prime minister may earn that.. but the medial wage is 42k which usually needs a bachalor or master degree and couple of years of experience to even get near..

Europeans get paid a lot less but also get a lot more worker benefits and also cost of living is significantly cheaper out there AFAIK.

[xDDD]

Originally posted by m662:

Originally posted by xDDD:

Europeans get paid a lot less but also get a lot more worker benefits and also cost of living is significantly cheaper out there AFAIK.

First true second not. there is a current housing crisis where even a not freestanding apartment can cost up to a million (L.A. level price issue)

With regards to salary the only thing I can say is negotiate and if you do not care about stability find recruiters who offer more for there position hunt. But most times it is better to simply negotiate.

Buying apartments in cities cost a ton of money everywhere dude.

But from a quick search on the rental costs I'm seeing, I'd KILL to have rent that low. On average it's probably about 2x more.