Notice frametime stutter in Games with Windows 10.

[Chouchers]

There lot games framerate show 60fps but frame jump between 16.7 to 19.4 cause stutter try lock it to 60fps with RTSS don't work unless set 30fps then change back to 60fps. Anyone have idea what going on here.
Didn't have this with windows 11 but system my is unsupport for that OS.

My specs.
i7-7700hq
GTX1050ti driver 527.56
16gb ddr4 2400mhz
nvme ssd

[Bad 💀 Motha]

What is the native refresh rate of your Laptop's Display?
Some might default to 50 or 59 Hz and cause this sort of an issue.
Load up the Intel Control Panel / Command Center and double check the Screen Res + Refresh that is set for your Windows Desktop.

Your system supports Win11 despite what Microsoft would say about this via PC Health Checkup app.

If you want Win11, create your own Bootable USB Flash Drive using the very latest Public/Stable Brand Win11 ISO + Rufus tool. Then boot from that USB drive after its done and wipe your drive clean and perform clean install (custom during the installer screen)

It might be wise to also try wiping out GPU drivers with the DDU app in safe mode.
Before doing so, download NVIDIA GameReady (DCH) Notebook Driver 522.25
https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/193714
so you can give this driver version a try. It's much more stable driver for all of the GTX 10/16 series. Later drivers are more aimed at RTX 30/40 series GPUs.

Once done, reboot and have the Wired LAN & WIFI disconnected.
Then install the driver package you downloaded above.
Reboot once more once it has completed the install.

After this, configure NVIDIA Control Panel by changing...
> Manage 3D Settings

Default/Desired GPU = High Performance GPU
Power Management = Prefer Max Performance

Click Apply.

Now re-run your tests.

However, within NVIDIA Control Panel > Manage 3D Settings
you should have "Background Max FPS" and "Maximum FPS" listed.
Background Max FPS = for any non-focused background apps
Maximum FPS = for your focused app (such as your game)
Try setting both to 60 if that is your refresh rate.

Try to avoid using RTSS to set the max FPS unless it is a must to do it that way.

[Chouchers]

引用自 Bad 💀 Motha：

What is the native refresh rate of your Laptop's Display?
Some might default to 50 or 59 Hz and cause this sort of an issue.
Load up the Intel Control Panel / Command Center and double check the Screen Res + Refresh that is set for your Windows Desktop.

Your system supports Win11 despite what Microsoft would say about this via PC Health Checkup app.

If you want Win11, create your own Bootable USB Flash Drive using the very latest Public/Stable Brand Win11 ISO + Rufus tool. Then boot from that USB drive after its done and wipe your drive clean and perform clean install (custom during the installer screen)

It might be wise to also try wiping out GPU drivers with the DDU app in safe mode.
Before doing so, download NVIDIA GameReady (DCH) Notebook Driver 522.25
https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/193714
so you can give this driver version a try. It's much more stable driver for all of the GTX 10/16 series. Later drivers are more aimed at RTX 30/40 series GPUs.

Once done, reboot and have the Wired LAN & WIFI disconnected.
Then install the driver package you downloaded above.
Reboot once more once it has completed the install.

After this, configure NVIDIA Control Panel by changing...
> Manage 3D Settings

Default/Desired GPU = High Performance GPU
Power Management = Prefer Max Performance

Click Apply.

Now re-run your tests.

However, within NVIDIA Control Panel > Manage 3D Settings
you should have "Background Max FPS" and "Maximum FPS" listed.
Background Max FPS = for any non-focused background apps
Maximum FPS = for your focused app (such as your game)
Try setting both to 60 if that is your refresh rate.

Try to avoid using RTSS to set the max FPS unless it is a must to do it that way.

My show 60.020Hz by Display Information.

So it driver it driver problem with windows 10 I give old driver try.

I gone back to window 10 duo issues with win11 22h2 after updating system made too unstable to use because BSOD.

[Chouchers]

522.25 seam bit more stable but still stutting. I'm about to try linux OS on this laptop.
Here a video I record show problem here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJXAvn4RNSs

[plat]

No,Microsoft denied nearly all Kaby Lake processors, but later reversed itself and allowed certain models of its higher end Surface laptops to proceed. Terrible. Unfortunately OP illustrated why by reporting increased crashes in 11.

I don't see the thermal readout for the gpu in the video--just the cpu. How hot is it during that game?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Your Win11 was probably unstable due to doing an Upgrade.
Never use that option, use the clean install option.
Then even under Win11, clean install or not, you should wipe out all the Drivers that have Installs listed under Programs & Features. Reboot as needed and then go install all latest drivers. Even if a latest driver is only released for Win10 64bit, it should still work properly under Win11. The key however is wiping & reinstalling all core drivers fresh again.

Motherboard Chipset, both GPUs, Audio, LAN, WIFI, BT, TouchPad; etc.

Win11 22H2 was more buggy then Win10 22H2; however MS has since patched most if not all of those issues already.

[Chouchers]

引用自 plat：

No,Microsoft denied nearly all Kaby Lake processors, but later reversed itself and allowed certain models of its higher end Surface laptops to proceed. Terrible. Unfortunately OP illustrated why by reporting increased crashes in 11.

I don't see the thermal readout for the gpu in the video--just the cpu. How hot is it during that game?

Unfortunately was not able get afterburner to to read thermal however it most like 74c that normal what I get with GPU.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

If MSI AB can't read GPU temps then use GPU-Z app or CPUID HWMonitor

[plat]

I use RivaTuner in conjunction w/HWiNFO64 instead of Afterburner. You can configure onscreen display in HWiNFO via Sensors/Settings gear at bottom/OSD-RTSS tab at top. RTSS also caps my frames so it seems you have that taken care of already.

If anyone is interested:

https://www.hwinfo.com/download/

Use the Installer version, not the Portable. HWiNFO must be running in order to get the onscreen display in-game.

It is best to rule out gpu heat-throttling as a contributor. Then you can look at other causes.

[Chouchers]

I use HWiNFO64 and was able to read GPU temp 65c on core 71c hot spot. GPU was not throttleing. However CPU will power throttle at 74c so using throttle stop to fix that. The thing is that laptop always had this problem with CPU.

Throttlestop setting any thing more this will cause GPU power throttle that something I want void.
https://imgur.com/a/dWgDAfP

[plat]

OK, I see your Throttlestop snip but don't see where you've limited the power setting for the cpu to 74 deg. It seems to me that's a little too restrictive--esp for a laptop but you did say you had the gpu's setting in mind also. Hmmm.

Did you experiment with a lower profile from High Performance?

I mean, as a consideration you can always post your question to the developer of Throttlestop.himself. Prob. better than trying to play guessing games here.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/forums/general-software.15/

[Chouchers]

引用自 plat：

OK, I see your Throttlestop snip but don't see where you've limited the power setting for the cpu to 74 deg. It seems to me that's a little too restrictive--esp for a laptop but you did say you had the gpu's setting in mind also. Hmmm.

Did you experiment with a lower profile from High Performance?

I mean, as a consideration you can always post your question to the developer of Throttlestop.himself. Prob. better than trying to play guessing games here.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/forums/general-software.15/

No it limited to 74c by the bios and without throttlestop it throttle cpu HARD all way down 800mhz.

[plat]

As a final request for more info, what are the Minimum and Maximum processor states in your Windows configuration? To get these values, open Control Panel and then select Power Options. Click "Choose when to turn off display" on the left and then "change advanced power settings."

In the little window there, click the plus signs under Processor power management/ Minimum processor state and Maximum processor state. Just note the percentages; I would not change anything. For reference, mine are 5 and 100% respectively.

It still isn't clear whether your processor settings are causing the "stutter," though. I would def. ask over at TPU whether all your TS and BIOS settings are proper.