note lots of steam community forum users banned

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its concerning because most of these people aren't doing anything wrong and are being subject to inconsistent and aggressive banning practices by steam.


as a result, i think steam should start posting moderator accounts next to the banned persons name where is says "Banned" it should show the community who has banned them, and the reason why.

why they should do this?

because steam moderation itself needs to be investigated because of the way it acts out against typical non threatening users. that by disclosing the moderator who is banning individuals we as a community can see who the problem is, we can then report it directly to steam support that hey this moderator is acting out against users, is conspiring with malicious groups on the forums and is generally in violation of moderation rights.

i will agree that sometimes we all deserve a ban for something we might of wrongfully said or engaged in activity, however there is a point that it becomes excessive and malicious, because moderators are just people to and they seem to make more mistakes then typical users do.

Clarity is needed to protect the community from this malicious banning and forum moderation abuse.



update:

ever user on this thread has been linked together in a group as a toxic and user reporter seeking to ban the content of others from the forum, i knew this would easily get all of your attention and put you all in a nice place out of the the general "steam community" main threads.

this is why this topic is still active and this account isn't banned because the moderator you all work with is not allowed to control topic views on this discussion thread section of steam.

while i find it rather annoying and some what childish that you all goto such great lengths to lie about steam users and try to harass and belittle them, and try to get them banned. i am somewhat not suprised. this is the typical behavior that can be seen by social groupings

I hope that some serious investigation is done into the steam community forum moderation, that steam users can once again find a voice without being berated by the lot of you.


the only person with legit input on this was Kitt who i have noted as being a victim in the past of your little banning game against users.


i personally enjoy that you come at me , and i hope you enjoy that i stand up to you and i will continue to stand up to your shenanigans until this community and steam itself is a better place for all of its users.

my regards to the real moderators who are not manipulated by pettiness and seek only to do a professional and upstanding job, good work, i hope that you will continue to safe guard our community against people that seek to hurt it. such as the ones commenting viciously upon this thread.

i hope that this all sheds real light onto the hostility of user banning going on in the "steam community" threads as the general display can show that most users don't engage in forum responses, it is only these users, who clearly show hostile intent and have personal vendetta's

[Pierce Dalton]

Автор сообщения: SlowMango

Автор сообщения: Pierce Dalton

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Have you seen me advocating the permaban of anyone, by any chance?

The only thing unwise here is your comparison.

Then the post you referenced doesn't do that either. So by your own standard, it doesn't fall under being 'inflammatory and provocative'.

Are you sure it doesn't do that? I assume you know what remove means, right?

Автор сообщения: The Commendatore

Автор сообщения: Honor & Righteousness

the banned everyday thing was a joke expressing the report abusing members of the steam forum that will report you for everything, nobody wants to be banned but because of the broken system and because of many of the individuals appearing on this very thread it happens to alot of users.

i have been studying all of you for a while since our little steam deck discussion, it had me curious about who you where and what your reason on steam was, then i found out it involved ex-moderation, that it involved report abuse, that it involved people close to steam moderators,

the rabbit hole got deeper as seen it being used to control the forum topics and player declarations. why is any of it needed can't we allow steam to just be a place for users to have a good conversation and have fun, that they might enjoy the community and they might learn something from each other.

I get the fact alot of you want to control the people on the forum, i get the fact that you dislike people talking badly about something you love, i love steam to or i wouldn't go out of my way to make a point.

its easy to walk away and not care, but it shows determination to stand up against injustice to promote a better and safer system. one that isn't controlled by report abuse, we have to take users feelings into consideration.

banning people is not healthy for steam or for its forums, ultimately users leave the platform, there is just not enough being done to protect steam users, and then i meet you people and im shocked at your need to have some type of power over others.

i note that a power hungry individual is truely powerless in the world around them.

It WaS jUsT a PrAnK bRo

Yeah, that's not going to work.

Oh, I missed the "healthy" part in your comment. What's healthy is to remove disruptive users so others can have a healthy environment to express their opinions in.

[[-=Bo-S=-]antyNWOvaccines]

a moderator or administrator is not someone who can do everything, he also has guidelines, he has to have reason above all and be able to really assess what is going on, just like public officials cannot go beyond their competences, so it is also on the internet, you need to keep common sense, come to an agreement,
and not do your own thing

that's why I respect admins/moderators who have a head on their shoulders and can recognize that something is wrong and react, but they can't do anything else beyond their competence

I want to point out that sometimes we attack each other but for jokes, so it should be judged within reason of the admin / moderator whether to block the post, delete the comment etc etc. do everything with your head

[Tanoomba]

Автор сообщения: Honor & Righteousness

users have a right to not be silenced.

No, they don't.
What they have is a responsibility to behave in a civil manner if they want to make use of Steam's social features. If they are unable or unwilling, then consequences are justified.

Автор сообщения: Honor & Righteousness

why is any of it needed can't we allow steam to just be a place for users to have a good conversation and have fun, that they might enjoy the community and they might learn something from each other.

Sure, in a perfect world moderation wouldn't be needed because everyone would behave appropriately. In THIS world, there are trolls, bad-faith actors and toxic elements that poison the quality of discourse for everyone. It is absurd to suggest we simply allow them to run rampant because it will somehow lead to "learning from each other".

Автор сообщения: Honor & Righteousness

banning people is not healthy for steam or for its forums

Not only is it healthy, it is necessary.

Автор сообщения: Honor & Righteousness

im shocked at your need to have some type of power over others.

You're shocked that people report posts that clearly violate Steam's guidelines? It has nothing to do with needing to have power over others and everything to do with using the system as intended to prevent the forums from becoming a toxic cesspool.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Автор сообщения: Pierce Dalton

Автор сообщения: AmsterdamHeavy

How many times have you been told that they dont do that on profiles or screenshots or etc because the owner can delete them at will?

Its not the forums and yet you act like they are the same. They are not.

You sure? Then why someone I know got a comban due to comments on his own profile?

Because those comments were actively encouraging harassment to other users. They were also directly naming the other users with the encouragement.

[Pierce Dalton]

Автор сообщения: SlowMango

Автор сообщения: Pierce Dalton

You sure? Then why someone I know got a comban due to comments on his own profile?

Because those comments were actively encouraging harassment to other users. They were also directly naming the other users with the encouragement.

Nope, he basically said some users were stupid - which is pretty much the same thing that user commented on that photo.

[Pierce Dalton]

Автор сообщения: The Commendatore

Автор сообщения: AmsterdamHeavy

How many times have you been told that they dont do that on profiles or screenshots or etc because the owner can delete them at will?

Its not the forums and yet you act like they are the same. They are not.

Not only that but does he have the permission to just post this screenshot all willy-nilly?

Uh, have you noticed that's public content? The permission refers to reuploading it elsewhere and stuff like that, evidently.

[Vinz Clortho]

Great work mods. Keep it up.

[Tito Shivan]

Автор сообщения: Pierce Dalton

Anyway, if absolute power corrupts absolutely, then any degree of power can also corrupt, it seems that escaped you.

If you mean a paid mod account, several have been deactivated since they're in. Seems accounts for paid mods are employee-tied and Steam deactivates them when one leaves.

And it's a job with high turnover rate, just like call centers. So seeing these accounts come and go shouldn't be surprising as employees cycle around.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Автор сообщения: Pierce Dalton

Автор сообщения: SlowMango

Because those comments were actively encouraging harassment to other users. They were also directly naming the other users with the encouragement.

Nope, he basically said some users were stupid - which is pretty much the same thing that user commented on that photo.

That is not what happened.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Автор сообщения: Pierce Dalton

Автор сообщения: SlowMango

That is not what happened.

I'm sorry, I think I'm getting old. What did he say then?

That isn't going to work.

[Xhoas]

Автор сообщения: Ray Fillet

Great work mods. Keep it up.

This whole thread is quite ironic if you think about it...

[Tito Shivan]

Автор сообщения: Pierce Dalton

Interesting, so I'm sure you can provide another example.

I don't keep a log of who comes and go. But I recall a couple be decommissioned while we still were around.

[Brian9824]

Автор сообщения: Tito Shivan

Автор сообщения: Pierce Dalton

Interesting, so I'm sure you can provide another example.

I don't keep a log of who comes and go. But I recall a couple be decommissioned while we still were around.

I remember this one because of his name - https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/26/624076027691726515/#c3595590846022069591

If you click his profile you will see his account was nuked as well

Also this one -
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/12/3004430047209268590/?ctp=4#c3464975762205374724

So yeah not sure why someone would try to assign malice to an account being deleted when there are a lot of valid reasons for doing so. I mean I delete people's account in our software all the time when they leave, I created the outboarding process and its part of our checklist

[Start_Running]

Автор сообщения: Shoas

Автор сообщения: Ray Fillet

Great work mods. Keep it up.

This whole thread is quite ironic if you think about it...

That's a funny way to spell 'Predictable'.

[Pierce Dalton]

Автор сообщения: Tito Shivan

Автор сообщения: Pierce Dalton

Interesting, so I'm sure you can provide another example.

I don't keep a log of who comes and go. But I recall a couple be decommissioned while we still were around.

The paid mods have been here since 2015, is that it?

I wasn't expecting you to keep a log, but if the turnover rate is high, then we would see this kind of thing here and there when browsing old threads:

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/3761103414977409334/?ctp=52#c3790380404156296375

Interestingly, though, that seems to be a rare sight. I've showed that to an old regular, they don't recall seeing that before. I'm sure that people come and go, that's normal in any company. But can't they reuse accounts? You know, new guy comes in, uses an old account of someone that left. Apparently, that's what happens given how rare it is to find mod profiles deleted.