Using SAM to Re-Lock already obtained achievements

[OatBran]

Does SAM work for this? I am not interested in "cheating" or unlocking any locked achievements, but rather I want to re-lock all my achievements I already have for a game. Am I risking a ban for doing this?

Idk where the proper place to discuss this is either... so sorry if I am in the wrong place.

[Ogami]

You can relock them with SAM but that will "break" the achievement. Meaning it will be locked forever. You cant get it again even if you fulfill the ingame requirements.
Only option to unlock it again is using SAM again.

And no you wont get a ban for that.

[Smaug's Arrow.]

This could only lead to trouble. Ya know i went to one of those TF2 servers that give free stuff. Damn that mistake was bad. So damn stupid.

[OatBran]

Originally posted by Ogami:

You can relock them with SAM but that will "break" the achievement. Meaning it will be locked forever. You cant get it again even if you fulfill the ingame requirements.
Only option to unlock it again is using SAM again.

And no you wont get a ban for that.

That's a shame. I wanted to relock them for a video series I am doing and having the achievements unlock on screen is a lot better than having to tell people to take my word for it. Thanks for the info though

[Ogami]

Originally posted by CrassHopper.:

This could only lead to trouble. Ya know i went to one of those TF2 servers that give free stuff. Damn that mistake was bad. So damn stupid.

Well he wants to lock achievments again so that he can do them again in the game. I can even understand that to a degree, it would be fun to play a game you already finished as if it was "new".


@OP
What you can do ist make a new account and family share the target game to that account.
The new account has no achievements in the game and can do them all again.
That would be an easy "legal" way without using any programs.

[OatBran]

Originally posted by Ogami:

Originally posted by CrassHopper.:

This could only lead to trouble. Ya know i went to one of those TF2 servers that give free stuff. Damn that mistake was bad. So damn stupid.

Well he wants to lock achievments again so that he can do them again in the game. I can even understand that to a degree, it would be fun to play a game you already finished as if it was "new".


@OP
What you can do ist make a new account and family share the target game to that account.
The new account has no achievements in the game and can do them all again.
That would be an easy "legal" way without using any programs.

That's a good idea! thanks for the suggestion I might end up doing that.

[Smaug's Arrow.]

Originally posted by Ogami:

Originally posted by CrassHopper.:

This could only lead to trouble. Ya know i went to one of those TF2 servers that give free stuff. Damn that mistake was bad. So damn stupid.

Well he wants to lock achievments again so that he can do them again in the game. I can even understand that to a degree, it would be fun to play a game you already finished as if it was "new".


@OP
What you can do ist make a new account and family share the target game to that account.
The new account has no achievements in the game and can do them all again.
That would be an easy "legal" way without using any programs.

Ah. Good answer.

[ALEJO [CO]]

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[On Vacation]

Originally posted by Ogami:

You can relock them with SAM but that will "break" the achievement. Meaning it will be locked forever. You cant get it again even if you fulfill the ingame requirements.
Only option to unlock it again is using SAM again.

There are only a couple of cases where this is true in games where an achievement is trigger based but can only occur once on an account, which is a very rare occurrence. In the vast majority games while they may not unlock again retroactively in an existing save, if you start a new save there's nothing in place that would prevent you from unlocking them again. Steam only tracks achievements via a simple 1, 0 flag and SAM can set that flag to either which can be verified with the API or XML community data.

[OatBran]

Originally posted by On Vacation:

Originally posted by Ogami:

You can relock them with SAM but that will "break" the achievement. Meaning it will be locked forever. You cant get it again even if you fulfill the ingame requirements.
Only option to unlock it again is using SAM again.

There are only a couple of cases where this is true in games where an achievement is trigger based but can only occur once on an account, which is a very rare occurrence. In the vast majority games while they may not unlock again retroactively in an existing save, if you start a new save there's nothing in place that would prevent you from unlocking them again. Steam only tracks achievements via a simple 1, 0 flag and SAM can set that flag to either which can be verified with the API or XML community data.

The game in question is La-Mulana. I'm kind of on the fence about the whole thing. If family sharing works then that might be the better option.

This is cool to see some technical information on how steam tracks achievements though.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

Originally posted by OatBran:

Originally posted by On Vacation:

There are only a couple of cases where this is true in games where an achievement is trigger based but can only occur once on an account, which is a very rare occurrence. In the vast majority games while they may not unlock again retroactively in an existing save, if you start a new save there's nothing in place that would prevent you from unlocking them again. Steam only tracks achievements via a simple 1, 0 flag and SAM can set that flag to either which can be verified with the API or XML community data.

The game in question is La-Mulana. I'm kind of on the fence about the whole thing. If family sharing works then that might be the better option.

This is cool to see some technical information on how steam tracks achievements though.

Haha I'm listening to La-Mulana music right now.

Anyway i've proposed a more radical solution, wherein people are allowed to freely unlock and relock achievements as much as they like, but it's not exactly a popular idea. But the reason I proposed it is because of situations like yours. As well as that wherein people "accidentally" unlock achievements by going to stuff like modded TF2 servers. And those times when people want to play a game without getting achievements. And also, on the flipside, for those achievements that are broken and can't be unlocked through intended means.

[ShadowGamer3]

Originally posted by OatBran:

I am not interested in "cheating" or unlocking any locked achievements, but rather I want to re-lock all my achievements I already have for a game

it's the same for me, i was playng unturned on a local server and the admin used a command prompt to give me stuff i didn't want. this caused many achievements to unlock that i didn't want yet.

Originally posted by Ogami:

You can relock them with SAM but that will "break" the achievement. Meaning it will be locked forever. You cant get it again even if you fulfill the ingame requirements.
Only option to unlock it again is using SAM again.

Does this apply to all games? and if not is Unturned among them? this is the only game this happened to me and i really hope that i can still unlock them again. thanks in advance for helping.

[Master]

Originally posted by Ogami:

Originally posted by CrassHopper.:

This could only lead to trouble. Ya know i went to one of those TF2 servers that give free stuff. Damn that mistake was bad. So damn stupid.

Well he wants to lock achievments again so that he can do them again in the game. I can even understand that to a degree, it would be fun to play a game you already finished as if it was "new".


@OP
What you can do ist make a new account and family share the target game to that account.
The new account has no achievements in the game and can do them all again.
That would be an easy "legal" way without using any programs.

Yes that is exactly what I was looking for and it worked perfectly.

Thanks

[Kiwi]

Hello all, I was curious about a similar thing as I seem to have unlocked a random achievement or two in games that just are not on my account (probably during a demo years ago). I would like to relock these three but when opening SAM they are no where to be found. Any advice or work arounds for this or do I need to own a copy of the full games to relock them? Also for a game such as M&M: Duels of Champions where the servers are shut down, that also seems to be nowhere to be found. I don't intend to touch this one but I assumed this might be a clue as to why I cannot see Tower Wars or Brutal Legend (the two games where I have a random achievement from despite not owning the games). Thank you!

[JPMcMillen]

There's not just the problem of achievement triggers not being reset so they can go off again, but some games will re-push all earned achievements when they start up (or when you start playing). They do this on the off chance that if an achievement didn't unlock properly on Steam before, it should now. And Steam will just ignore any that the system already shows were earned. So just removing the achievement from Steam may only last until the next time you play the game.

[Kiwi]

Originally posted by JPMcMillen:

There's not just the problem of achievement triggers not being reset so they can go off again, but some games will re-push all earned achievements when they start up (or when you start playing). They do this on the off chance that if an achievement didn't unlock properly on Steam before, it should now. And Steam will just ignore any that the system already shows were earned. So just removing the achievement from Steam may only last until the next time you play the game.

Yes but I do not own the games. So maybe one day I will buy them and play them and if they auto unlock then I guess whatever. But for now I am just not a fan of having achievements for games I do not own show up. But SAM cannot even add them or what not so I do not even know if there is a way to relock them even if I tried