Bots in review comments?

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Has anyone else seen more of bots in the comment section? both for reviews and more obscure areas with comments, be it guides or anything else.

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Would those reviews YOU deem illegal fall under that? Doubtful.

So it's not consumer misleading or deceptive if everyone elese on Steam made a 1000 accounts or more each, and then spammed same quote reviews AI or script for every account owing DOTA 2?

In the FTC proposed rulemaking, the Commission cited examples of clearly deceptive practices involving consumer reviews and testimonials from its past cases, and noted the widespread emergence of generative AI, which is likely to make it easier for bad actors to write fake reviews.

I'd say having regularly spammed 1000 accounts DOTA 2 reviews all saying the same thing, all coming from the same accounts creator, is deceptive. Valve not removing them, as they know its happening weekly and from where, is also deceptive. But we can agree to disagree.

[Nx Machina]

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So it's not consumer misleading or deceptive if everyone elese on Steam made a 1000 accounts or more each, and then spammed same quote reviews AI or script for every account owing DOTA 2?

In the FTC proposed rulemaking, the Commission cited examples of clearly deceptive practices involving consumer reviews and testimonials from its past cases, and noted the widespread emergence of generative AI, which is likely to make it easier for bad actors to write fake reviews.

I'd say having regularly spammed 1000 accounts DOTA 2 reviews all saying the same thing, all coming from the same accounts creator, is deceptive. Valve not removing them, as they know its happening weekly and from where, is also deceptive. But we can agree to disagree.

Still avoiding YOUR defintion of illegal.

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Still avoiding YOUR defintion of illegal.

Federal Trade Commission FTC proposed rules, on consumer reviews endorsements and testimonials are federal law.

So what is it about the definition of "illegal" do you not understand?

The federal government has every right to impose fines on to Valve for non compliance. And or even seek out any individuals behind bot farms leaving fake reviews.

What is your definition illegal? Scam? Scam are good? Deception, spam fake good?

Okay - illegal aside...

If these reviews are indeed fake or bot-generated, scripted - The Best Game -, they could be violating the platform own policies? Along with said mentioned FTC review legal regulations.

What are Valve's definitions of those policies? Lets see.

https://store.steampowered.com/online_conduct/
More specifically, you shall not do, or attempt to do, any of the following on Steam:
Disrupt, damage, or manipulate Steam
Examples of such prohibited behavior include: instituting an attack on a Steam server; artificially manipulating Steam reviews or other content; and automatically generating Steam accounts.

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/UKCS/members?searchKey=%F0%9D%93%A2%F0%9D%93%90%F0%9D%93%9C%F0%9D%93%A4%F0%9D%93%A1%F0%9D%93%98%F0%9D%93%94

The reviews don't lie?

[Nx Machina]

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Federal Trade Commission FTC proposed rules, on consumer reviews endorsements and testimonials are federal law.

So what is it about the definition of "illegal" do you not understand?

The federal government has every right to impose fines on to Valve for non compliance. And or even seek out any individuals behind bot farms leaving fake reviews.

What is your definition illegal? Scam? Scam are good? Deception, spam fake good?

YOUR defintion as YOU are the one claiming they are illegal.

Did you forget you posted:

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Valve has no shortage of illegal fake reviews

The FTC did not post that. You did.

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Federal Trade Commission FTC proposed rules, on consumer reviews endorsements and testimonials are federal law.

So what is it about the definition of "illegal" do you not understand?

The federal government has every right to impose fines on to Valve for non compliance. And or even seek out any individuals behind bot farms leaving fake reviews.

What is your definition illegal? Scam? Scam are good? Deception, spam fake good?

YOUR defintion as YOU are the one claiming they are illegal.

Did you forget you posted:

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Valve has no shortage of illegal fake reviews

The FTC did not post that. You did.

I could direct you to the FTC's website and information, the problem is, you wouldn't read it, maybe not understand it. You'd probably ask them what their basis or merit is for making and enforcing policy on what they consider, is illegal review, endorsements, and testimonials, activity,

Whether you’re a consumer or a business owner, here’s how to report suspicious online reviews across some popular websites. And be sure to tell the FTC: ReportFraud.ftc.gov.
https://consumer.ftc.gov/articles/how-report-suspicious-online-reviews

They said that, not me. Done and done.

[Nx Machina]

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I could direct you to the FTC's website and information, the problem is, you wouldn't read it, maybe not understand it. You'd probably ask them what their basis or merit is for making and enforcing policy on what they consider, is illegal review, endorsements, and testimonials, activity,

Whether you’re a consumer or a business owner, here’s how to report suspicious online reviews across some popular websites. And be sure to tell the FTC: ReportFraud.ftc.gov.
https://consumer.ftc.gov/articles/how-report-suspicious-online-reviews

They said that, not me. Done and done.

I do not need to visit the FTC website.

I want you to stand by your words and define illegal because that is YOUR CLAIM written below.

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Valve has no shortage of illegal fake reviews

Maybe you missed you made no mention of the FTC in your original post.

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Bots can be both a blessing and a curse. They have the power to flood comment sections and make it difficult to decipher genuine feedback from automated spam. It seems like everywhere you turn online, there's a chance of running into one. Have you come across any recently?

Oct 13, 2024 -
The Best Game

https://steamcommunity.com/app/570/reviews/?p=1&browsefilter=mostrecent#scrollTop=53672

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/UKCS/members?searchKey=%F0%9D%92%9C%F0%9D%93%81%F0%9D%92%BE%F0%9D%93%83%F0%9D%93%80%F0%9D%92%B6

Valve has no shortage of illegal fake reviews flooded by The Best Game - look at store page graph for the days of unusual reviews activity spam that count towards the over all review score.

Therefore the FTC has zero to do with YOUR CLAIM.

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Now you are mad at me that I didn't mention the FTC in my claim?
FTC has everything to do,with all of it, illegal.
Or mad that I won't define illegal?

il·le·gal
/i(l)ˈlēɡ(ə)l,əˈlēɡ(ə)l/
adjective
adjective: illegal

contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law.

The Best Game
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/UKCS/members?searchKey=%F0%9D%93%A2%F0%9D%93%90%F0%9D%93%9C%F0%9D%93%A4%F0%9D%93%A1%F0%9D%93%98%F0%9D%93%94

The Best Game
https://steamcommunity.com/search/users/#text=LinaCandy


I'm all for The Federal Trade Commission getting involved..

We should direct members of the Federal Trade Commission here for comments?
I'd love to see how you try and strawman and gaslight them that they cannot enforce their rules of law on illegal, deceptive review activity alt account, bot, AI, scripted.

What say you Valve? Complicit or incompetent?

[Nx Machina]

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Now you are mad at me that I didn't mention the FTC in my claim?
FTC has everything to do,with all of it, illegal.
Or mad that I won't define illegal?

il·le·gal
/i(l)ˈlēɡ(ə)l,əˈlēɡ(ə)l/
adjective
adjective: illegal

contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law.

The Best Game
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/UKCS/members?searchKey=%F0%9D%93%A2%F0%9D%93%90%F0%9D%93%9C%F0%9D%93%A4%F0%9D%93%A1%F0%9D%93%98%F0%9D%93%94

The Best Game
https://steamcommunity.com/search/users/#text=LinaCandy


I'm all for The Federal Trade Commission getting involved..

We should direct members of the Federal Trade Commission here for comments?
I'd love to see how you try and strawman and gaslight them that they cannot enforce their rules of law on illegal, deceptive review activity alt account, bot, AI, scripted.

What say you Valve? Complicit or incompetent?

Mad at you? Nope.

FTC has zero to do with it because no one from the FTC wrote your post. You did.

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Valve has no shortage of illegal fake reviews

So we go back to YOU avoiding YOUR defintion of illegal. It cannot be that hard as YOU are convinced they are illegal fake reviews. It is YOUR CLAIM after all not the FTC.

Trust me bro is not a great defence in fact it is avoidance.

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lol my avoidance of what? I gave you the definition of illegal, l and my reasoning of them being illegal based on the FTC own federal guidelines for rules laws - user reviews testimonials and endorsements.

Again, I'm all for The Federal Trade Commission getting involved. They and Valve can get to the bottom of illegal reviews, really fast, IP addresses, account creation dates, user review creation dates (scripted), associated email addresses with accounts, payment information, DOTA 2 servers / IPs the associated accounts play or farm on, associated third party skin sites the accounts login to with Steam api, or associated VAC linked banned accounts, phone number associations, computer names, login locations etc etc etc, all information Valve has on user accounts. https://help.steampowered.com/en/accountdata

but trust me bro its not a great defense to act like I haven't provide you with any details

but w/e

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lol my avoidance of what? I gave you the definition of illegal, l and my reasoning of them being illegal based on the FTC own federal guidelines for rules laws - user reviews testimonials and endorsements.

Again, I'm all for The Federal Trade Commission getting involved. They and Valve can get to the bottom of illegal reviews, really fast, IP addresses, account creation dates, user review creation dates (scripted), associated email addresses with accounts, payment information, DOTA 2 servers / IPs the associated accounts play or farm on, associated third party skin sites the accounts login to with Steam api, or associated VAC linked banned accounts, phone number associations, computer names, login locations etc etc etc, all information Valve has on user accounts. https://help.steampowered.com/en/accountdata

but trust me bro its not a great defense to act like I haven't provide you with any details

but w/e

No that's not evidence for your claim.

You can rightly point to the FTC guidelines but the fact you're missing is that part where you need to prove these reviewes are fake.

You haven't done that and cannot.

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The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) recently announced a rule that prohibits fake and AI-generated reviews and testimonials, and other unfair or deceptive practices involving reviews. The rule will take effect on October 21, 2024.

Oh now what is Valve to do? I'ts not like they are removing the 1000's of blatant ones weekly now on their own accord.

Tell them FEDs Valve - The Best Game - just 1000's of deceptive review bot AI scripted spam on record counting towards overall review score of your product, weekly. Valve did no wrong.

What makes them fake? Valve can attribute every single one of the reviews to an account in good standing (and in most cases can vouch that they've bought a copy of the game).

[Generic_Internetter]

two of my reviews have gotten the exact same text:
"Dang, your review tho! It's packed with so much good stuff. I could never write like that. You're incredible! 🤩👌"

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Almost 250 reviews and i haven't met any of these bots... Dumb luck.

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two of my reviews have gotten the exact same text:
"Dang, your review tho! It's packed with so much good stuff. I could never write like that. You're incredible! 🤩👌"

And how does that demonstrate bots?

All that shows is that someone might have simply copy pasted and does this same response for games they like.

That's ALWAYS been a thing on the internet.

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when its the same "type of comments" from many other people towards others, with maybe a lot of the same comments being pushed at an "unresonable rate". just like games there is a lot of data and un-normal activity that can be notified (action may differ). to other points of interest that could "suggest" that it might be "bot or unfriendly" activity.