The day before: steam early access needs to be reformed

[NoobOrFeed]

Steam early access really needs to be reformed. It shouldnt be used to hide behind the EA banner and grab money with a scam.

The day before had every sign of a fake. Now its here and everything points toward the game being a scam.

It shouldnt be possible to hide behind early access and provide a game like that. I bet my money that there wont be a single update for the game and the devs only hope for enough money from people lazy enough to refund!

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by NoobOrFeed:

The day before: steam early access needs to be reformed

Steam early access really needs to be reformed. It shouldnt be used to hide behind the EA banner and grab money with a scam.

The day before had every sign of a fake. Now its here and everything points toward the game being a scam.

It shouldnt be possible to hide behind early access and provide a game like that. I bet my money that there wont be a single update for the game and the devs only hope for enough money from people lazy enough to refund!

If you think a game breaks any laws/rules, report it via the store page and move on.

[Hikari Light]

Early Access titles are a buying the game "as is", with the possibility of little to no updates to a full release.
There is a big blue box stating that.
If the user fails to read that, it is not Steam's problem.

[Brian9824]

OR just not buy it, I'm keeping an eye on it, but i wouldn't buy it at launch, that being said its been available for 3 hours and is having the usual server issues most MMO's have at launch. So its a bit early to make that call

[Start_Running]

Were you expecting a fully formed full featured game day one of early access?
Granted it does seem like the devs may have bitten off more than they can chew but hey. We'll see where this thing is at in 3 years

[Boblin the Goblin]

The game has been covered extensively along with the company and all of the shady practices they are doing.

That along with this big blue disclaimer that is above the purchase button;

Originally posted by Early Access:

Get instant access and start playing; get involved with this game as it develops.
Note: This Early Access game is not complete and may or may not change further. If you are not excited to play this game in its current state, then you should wait to see if the game progresses further in development.

The game itself exist. People can download and play a product that was advertised. The state it exist in a whole different discussion.

[NoobOrFeed]

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Were you expecting a fully formed full featured game day one of early access?

No but it shouldnt be a hideout for games with wrong advertisiment

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by NoobOrFeed:

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Were you expecting a fully formed full featured game day one of early access?

No but it shouldnt be a hideout for games with wrong advertisiment

What is advertised as being included(not upcoming or roadmap) on the store page that is not in the game?

[NoobOrFeed]

Originally posted by SlowMango:

Originally posted by NoobOrFeed:

No but it shouldnt be a hideout for games with wrong advertisiment

What is advertised as being included(not upcoming or roadmap) on the store page that is not in the game?

The game is advertised as a mmo and open world. It clearly isnt. Thats scam.
Open-world-mmo. Shop page.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by NoobOrFeed:

Originally posted by SlowMango:

What is advertised as being included(not upcoming or roadmap) on the store page that is not in the game?

The game is advertised as a mmo and open world. It clearly isnt

MMO just means it is Mass Multiplayer Online, which it is. "Open World" is subjective in what qualifies as an open world. There is not size requirement to be qualified as one.

I know that it isn't as advertised on YouTube and their previous videos since I've been following the controversy of this game. But, Steam doesn't care about the advertisement outside of the store page AFAIK.

[NoobOrFeed]

Originally posted by SlowMango:

Originally posted by NoobOrFeed:

The game is advertised as a mmo and open world. It clearly isnt

MMO just means it is Mass Multiplayer Online, which it is. "Open World" is subjective in what qualifies as an open world. There is not size requirement to be qualified as one.

I know that it isn't as advertised on YouTube and their previous videos since I've been following the controversy of this game. But, Steam doesn't care about the advertisement outside of the store page AFAIK.

For me, this is clearly scam. An extraction shooter on small maps isnt a open world mmo.

Its a very questionable move to release a game like this on early access. They got an excuse for the current state. Can make promises to fix. Grab a lot of money.

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by SlowMango:

Originally posted by NoobOrFeed:

The game is advertised as a mmo and open world. It clearly isnt

MMO just means it is Mass Multiplayer Online, which it is. "Open World" is subjective in what qualifies as an open world. There is not size requirement to be qualified as one.

Basically MMO just means A large. or at least the capcity for a large number of players on the server and open world just means an area thats explorable in a non linear fashion.

An open world can be a an island, , a city, , a street, or even a single building.

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Originally posted by SlowMango:

MMO just means it is Mass Multiplayer Online, which it is. "Open World" is subjective in what qualifies as an open world. There is not size requirement to be qualified as one.

Basically MMO just means A large. or at least the capcity for a large number of players on the server and open world just means an area thats explorable in a non linear fashion.

An open world can be a an island, , a city, , a street, or even a single building.

Yep a lot of people think open world means a large world with no loading zones. It actually refers to a non linear progression path like the original megaman games in which your not required to progress sequentially in a specific order.

[Time Travel Lord]

Originally posted by NoobOrFeed:

Steam early access really needs to be reformed. It shouldnt be used to hide behind the EA banner and grab money with a scam.

The day before had every sign of a fake. Now its here and everything points toward the game being a scam.

It shouldnt be possible to hide behind early access and provide a game like that. I bet my money that there wont be a single update for the game and the devs only hope for enough money from people lazy enough to refund!

As soon as I saw what they were selling, I jumped on the product report button. It's 100% a scam: everything about it is fake. The cover design was stolen from "Last of Us" & they didn't even bother changing the font. The "game" itself is a rip-off of The Division's "Dark Zone." The "servers" are basically massive waiting logs that delay your time & it feels like an attempt to make players "time out" from being able to refund. The product itself doesn't even function properly. It's like they slapped a bunch of stolen assets and free UE products together and marketed it as a game. It's literally the prime example of what NOT to sell on any game market.

[AmsterdamHeavy]

I know nothing about the hype around this game. I was watching a stream titled "is it a scam?" for a little while earlier and:

1) It looks pretty "open world" from my brief watching

2) Its not terrible looking

3) Its pretty empty and sterile, as many of these games are at launch in EA because they havent optimized yet and they go out of their way to limit mobs and things for performance

4) There are servers, I watched the player join one so I assume that would mean there is some type of multiplayer going on though I saw no other players


Doesnt look like a scam and in any case nothing "needs to be done" about early access.

[NoobOrFeed]

Originally posted by Time Traveler:

Originally posted by NoobOrFeed:

Steam early access really needs to be reformed. It shouldnt be used to hide behind the EA banner and grab money with a scam.

The day before had every sign of a fake. Now its here and everything points toward the game being a scam.

It shouldnt be possible to hide behind early access and provide a game like that. I bet my money that there wont be a single update for the game and the devs only hope for enough money from people lazy enough to refund!

As soon as I saw what they were selling, I jumped on the product report button. It's 100% a scam: everything about it is fake. The cover design was stolen from "Last of Us" & they didn't even bother changing the font. The "game" itself is a rip-off of The Division's "Dark Zone." The "servers" are basically massive waiting logs that delay your time & it feels like an attempt to make players "time out" from being able to refund. The product itself doesn't even function properly. It's like they slapped a bunch of stolen assets and free UE products together and marketed it as a game.

And thats why i say, early access needs to be reformed. The sole purpose here is to grab money.

Valve needs to protect gamers and set new rules for early access. A lot of people will sit for 2 hours waiting to join and lose refund time.

There needs to be some guidelines before releasing a game into early access

The fact that there hasnt been a single playtest, beta test or server stresstest should have been alarming enough.

Also there has been 0 actual footage of the game in 4 years developement other than those scriped gameplay footage by the devs.

This shouldnt have been allowed to go into early access in the first place

Do the math, 40k playing right now, 40 bucks is the price. Even with some refunds they grabbed a fortune out of this scam.

A shame that something like this is possible