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The Chosen Mar 30, 2020 @ 7:49am
Game pricing and wage in eastern europe
Steam does not care about eastern europe?
I was watching Mount and Blade Bannerlord today. The game is 40 € with a 20% discount... in Hungary. I feel Steam does not care about eastern europe. While we are in the eu, we get the games at a price of a western european. On the highest price on the world. While we earn third the money average! The russians get games half the price as us. Turks get it for almost third. We earn less, and the games cost more. This does not make sense! This is why people buy games from g2* and kingui*.

Why Steam does not care about eastern europe?
In Hungary, we have the highest consumer tax in the world, with 27%.
And a really high income tax too.
64%. So for every 100 HUF you get in your hands, you and your employer pay 178 HUF as taxes and other charges. So from a sum of 278, you get 100 HUF.

Polish, Romanians, Slovakians and Croatians what are your opinions about this?

And good luck buying a 40 € game, while on minimum wage. Thank you Steam!
Last edited by The Chosen; Jan 12, 2023 @ 4:17pm
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Theblaze Mar 30, 2020 @ 7:50am 
Publishers set the prices, complain to them.
cSg|mc-Hotsauce Mar 30, 2020 @ 7:51am 
Complain to TaleWorlds Entertainment.

People buy from shady keys sites because it cuts out the dev/pubs from their sales.

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The Chosen Mar 30, 2020 @ 7:55am 
Originally posted by Theblaze:
Publishers set the prices, complain to them.

Publishers does nos set region based prices. The same game is on different price per country based on the consumer tax. The publishers set a price and that could be end of it. But here comes Steam in the picture. Steam sets region based prices on the games. That is why a US 40$ (35€) game costs 40€ in EU, 20€ in Russia and 15€ in Turkey.
Last edited by The Chosen; Mar 30, 2020 @ 7:59am
cSg|mc-Hotsauce Mar 30, 2020 @ 7:55am 
Originally posted by The Chosen:
Originally posted by Theblaze:
Publishers set the prices, complain to them.

Publishers does nos set region based prices. Steam does.

Incorrect. The game devs/pubs do.

And Polish users pay less... 161,99zł

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Last edited by cSg|mc-Hotsauce; Mar 30, 2020 @ 7:57am
wuddih Mar 30, 2020 @ 7:59am 
Originally posted by The Chosen:
Originally posted by Theblaze:
Publishers set the prices, complain to them.

Publishers does nos set region based prices. Steam does.
nope, the pub/dev sets the prices for every on Steam available currency himself
and when new currencies get introduced, they have to set those prices too.
Wolfpig Mar 30, 2020 @ 8:00am 
Originally posted by The Chosen:
Originally posted by Theblaze:
Publishers set the prices, complain to them.

Publishers does nos set region based prices. Steam does.


Publishers set the price they want.....valve only gives them pricing suggestions for different regions.
The Chosen Mar 30, 2020 @ 8:02am 
I think you have misunderstood this. I was not complaining about the price. My problem is the region/currency based system! To be more clear, my problem is that easter europe is in a same region as western. We have prices in euro. Polish have the luck, I see.
Last edited by The Chosen; Mar 30, 2020 @ 8:04am
nullable Mar 30, 2020 @ 8:05am 
Originally posted by The Chosen:
I think you have misunderstood this. I was not complaining about the price. My problem is the region/currency based system!

So talk to the publisher, they're the ones participating and propagating that system...
The Chosen Mar 30, 2020 @ 8:05am 
Originally posted by wuddih:
Originally posted by The Chosen:

Publishers does nos set region based prices. Steam does.
nope, the pub/dev sets the prices for every on Steam available currency himself
and when new currencies get introduced, they have to set those prices too.

So steam does set currency based prices. Thy. I have euro based currency price. Same as the Germans, who earn three times more than me. How is this fair?
Last edited by The Chosen; Mar 30, 2020 @ 8:07am
cSg|mc-Hotsauce Mar 30, 2020 @ 8:06am 
Originally posted by The Chosen:
I think you have misunderstood this. I was not complaining about the price. My problem is the region/currency based system!

Ok...

Overview

Partners on Steam are responsible for setting and managing pricing for their products. The Steamworks Developer site provides tools to configure pricing and discounts in all the currencies supported by Steam. Initial pricing as well as proposed pricing adjustments will be reviewed by Valve and are usually processed within one or two business days. We recommend pricing strategies based on our experience and we may suggest prices based on currency conversions and other factors. During processing we will attempt to check your prices for input errors, but we can't guarantee we will catch every one so please check your prices carefully before submitting.

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/pricing

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wuddih Mar 30, 2020 @ 8:08am 
Originally posted by The Chosen:
I think you have misunderstood this. I was not complaining about the price. My problem is the region/currency based system!
and yet you are trying to explain how pricing on Steam works when you actually have zero clue.
everything you wrote is wrong. stop trying.

Originally posted by The Chosen:
To be more clear, my problem is that easter europe is in a same region as western. We have prices in euro. Polish have the luck, I see.
there are no european regions on Steam.

and poland is way more relevant on Steam than hungary. you are a dwarf compared to poland.
The Chosen Mar 30, 2020 @ 8:10am 
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Originally posted by The Chosen:
I think you have misunderstood this. I was not complaining about the price. My problem is the region/currency based system!

Ok...

Overview

Partners on Steam are responsible for setting and managing pricing for their products. The Steamworks Developer site provides tools to configure pricing and discounts in all the currencies supported by Steam. Initial pricing as well as proposed pricing adjustments will be reviewed by Valve and are usually processed within one or two business days. We recommend pricing strategies based on our experience and we may suggest prices based on currency conversions and other factors. During processing we will attempt to check your prices for input errors, but we can't guarantee we will catch every one so please check your prices carefully before submitting.

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/pricing

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So, than Steam suggests, and recommends the same price in Hungary, and in Germany. While recommends a much lower price in turkey and russia?
The Chosen Mar 30, 2020 @ 8:11am 
Originally posted by wuddih:
Originally posted by The Chosen:
I think you have misunderstood this. I was not complaining about the price. My problem is the region/currency based system!
and yet you are trying to explain how pricing on Steam works when you actually have zero clue.
everything you wrote is wrong. stop trying.

Originally posted by The Chosen:
To be more clear, my problem is that easter europe is in a same region as western. We have prices in euro. Polish have the luck, I see.
there are no european regions on Steam.

and poland is way more relevant on Steam than hungary. you are a dwarf compared to poland.

Don't be mean, I wasn't mean to you. This is a discussion. This is how everyone gets info.
cSg|mc-Hotsauce Mar 30, 2020 @ 8:13am 
Originally posted by The Chosen:
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Ok...



https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/pricing

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So, than Steam suggests, and recommends the same price in Hungary, and in Germany. While recommends a much lower price in turkey and russia?

Turkey and Russia have their own supported currencies. Hungary and Germany do not.

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cinedine Mar 30, 2020 @ 8:14am 
Originally posted by Theblaze:
Publishers set the prices, complain to them.

Actually, no.
If a region uses EUR instead of their own currency, the Euro-price is used. So Hungary gets the European pricing. And since the one-market policy was introduced Steam (had to) got rid of the EUR tiers, so everyone pays Western European prices.
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