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Thanatos Prime Mar 19, 2014 @ 8:48am
Question about Bortasqu' and Mogh cruisers

I been told that the of the "top" Klingon ships, the Bortasqu' and the Mogh, the Mogh is the better ship of the 2.

However i seen a minory but consistent saying that the bortasqu' while harder to operate is a more powerfull ship even in the damage department, also seen some videos on youtube people showing that, but never seen any of that on the Mogh.

Also, while its true that i dont have much time so i dont play as much as i would like, but since the Mogh release i have only seen 1 person using one, and while rarer then vorcha or negvar i consistently seen bortasqu'.

So i ask people that tryed the 2 ships for a more valid opinion betwin the 2.

Thank you.
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Szeron Mar 20, 2014 @ 5:48am 
As much as I hate to say it: Anything the Bortasqu can do, the Mogh can do better. (The only exception is 'battlefield presense'. The Bortasqu looks and feels like a proper Dreadnought and I've found that people do instinctively flock to them and follow them around like a command/flagship.)

The Mogh is the 'Mary Sue' KDF Battlecruiser and the new gold standard by which future ships of the line will be compared. That said, it's a very tight-turning ship(very low inertia) and part of the fun of KDF battlecruisers is power-sliding around the battlefield like a drunken T-Rex on rollerskates. When it comes down to raw performance, the Mogh has the rest of the KDF lineup beat.

The Bortasqu has always been a 'love it or hate it' kind of ship. Many people berate it for its very poor agility and extremely high inertia(it takes around 7km for the ship to slow down to normal speed after full impulse). However, prior to Legacy of Romulus, the Tactical Bortasqu had some of the highest offensive capacity in the game(I used to solo Red Alerts and go toe-to-toe with Donatra in mine). These days, it's just a very respectable beamboat. The Command variant, in particular, is a good ship that can take a pounding and dish it right back out.
Thanatos Prime Mar 20, 2014 @ 5:59am 
ty for the opinion :)
Firewalk Mar 20, 2014 @ 7:22am 
The two ships feel very different. I have tried running the Bortas with beams and cannons and came to the conclusion that no amount of RCS will make that thing turn good enough for cannons. You spend 70% of your combat time turning, thats in PVE. In PVP, no one will be stupid enough to stay in that things front. The Bortas is decent with beams though. Still, she can be the most frustrating ship to fly. I'd say if you go for this one, take the science version with sensor analysis so that your beams increase in damage over time.

The Mogh on the other hand is a cannon spammer. She is smaller, has better turn and those 5 front weapons chew through anything PVE in no time. The fleet version has even better shields than the Bortas. Her only drawback could be that she still has below average turn rate for a KDF battlecruiser, but with some RCS consoles (especially Dilithium mine ones) that problem is mitigated. I guess beam would work well too, but to me the cannons are too much fun to even try that.

I wouldn't ignore the other KDF ships if I were you. The following ships make good alternatives:

- Fleet Tor'kaht (nice turn rate, very tactical heavy. Essentially a faster turning Mogh with the traditional 4/4 weapon layout. Also has the Vor'cha model available. Some say this is still the best battlecruiser of the KDF.)

- Fleet K't'inga (may have low hull and mostly engineering powers, but she is the most iconic and fastest turning cruiser in the whole game.)

- Fleet Negh'var (Almost as beefy as the Bortas in terms of HP, turns as fast as the Mogh while having better shields. She is however very engineering heavy and suitable for both cannons and beams.)

- Fleet Kamarag/K'maj (Second best turn of all battlecruisers, GREAT BOFF layout and good for cannons. This is one is the jack of all trades that you can't really go wrong with. Only disadvantage could be her relatively low hull HP, which are still higher than those of the K't'inga though.)

Szeron Mar 20, 2014 @ 12:23pm 
Just going to echo that Xeno makes some good points. Before the Mogh, I was of the opinion that every Klingon Battlecruiser filled its own niche and they were all useful. The Mogh does have the flexibility to perform any of those niches now though.. usually several of them at the same time.

All that said, I'm personally flying the Mirror Neghvar at the moment. Fleet Kamarag has the same layout potential, but I just love the look and feel of the Neghvar more. The non-fleet stats are a very minor price to pay.
Firewalk Mar 20, 2014 @ 2:01pm 
Good point of the Mirror Negh'var, great ship.
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