best damage sponge battleship and below?

[Effluo]

so... its been a long time since i did a level 4 mission, and i am wondering what is the best ship to run em.

i used to use an abaddon, and myrmidon for tanking and a brutix and loki for dps... but that was a loooong time ago.

so, new ships, new fitting.... what is recomended?
if i have all the skills maxed, what ship (s) should i use?
tanking? active or passive what ships? and what setup?
melt your face dps? what ships? and what setup?

i am looking for any ships BS and down, multiple fittings / setups
i should be doing pve for a while til i get the hang of playing again lol. so i do not need any pvp setups for now.

thanks!

p.s. does evefit still work? is there an out of game program like it that is awesome? recomendations are apriciated

[battlecattle]

I like pyfa for fitting stuff. There's also osmium if you'd prefer a browser fitting tool. https://o.smium.org/

Assuming skills and ISK aren't issues, marauders and certain pirate battleships (rattlesnake is a popular choice) are popular l4 mission runners.

[B✪✪tsy]

With damage sponge I assume you mean the tank of the ship. The SNI (Scorpion Navy issue)
is the most tanky one due to the 8 mid-slots and perks. It's not the fastest boat to clear L4's with (still very decent), but those 8 mid-slots makes it in to a versitile ship that can have a huge tank or can be fitted for other strategies and situations.

As for the setup, most people focus on DPS rather than tank with mission boats. I personally like to fly ships with extra tank buffer in case shi* happens or if I need to go afk or something. So I use a balanced setup with strong omni tank and still some decent DPS instead of purely doing for DPS and doing mission speed runs. I use shield rigs for creating an omni resist and buff it with 1 or 2 mid-slots and then top it off with an active tank with 1 or more shield amplifiers... and then still have mid-slots left for a painter/AB/MJD.

You can tank it both passive or active or even mix it for missions. Specially if you snipe in the missions from long range and trigger spawns properly 1 by 1 you won't need to tank all that much anyway.

SNI fit example:

[Scorpion Navy Issue, Lazy iPod passive omni - MJD/MWD/Paint]
Co-Processor II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II (or whatever)

Heavy F-RX Prototype Capacitor Boost
X-Large Shield Booster II
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Thermal Dissipation Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II (overkill)
Large Micro Jump Drive
500MN Microwarpdrive II
Target Painter II

Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Improved Cloaking Device II (or drone buff etc)

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Large Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
(or go for DPS rigs. Tank or DPS)


Hammerhead II x1
Hobgoblin II x3
Gecko x1
(or use snipe drones)

Cap Booster 800 x6
Scourge Fury Cruise Missile x1500
Scourge Precision Cruise Missile x1459

[Effluo]

this is my current setup (one i have not actually used since my kid was 2 or younger, he is 8 now lol)

it feels like this ship is ALOT weaker than it used to be.... im sure its a good ship, i just want something .... better maybe lol. or maybe my memory is just bad and this ship is normal for mission running. hopefully i am wrong since my memory is telling me the numbers used to be double what they are now :(


330 dps
46670 ehp
energy empties in 19 min


[Abaddon, Abaddon]
Armor Thermal Hardener II
Armor Thermal Hardener II
Armor Thermal Hardener II
Large Armor Repairer II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I
Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I
Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I
Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I
Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Heavy Ghoul Compact Energy Nosferatu
Salvager II

Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Nanobot Accelerator I



Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5

Standard L x5
Barrage M x1

[anarcher]

>amarr
>ever

Also, the pith x-large shieldboosters are very cheap now, if you have funds for a faction/pirate battleship might as well spend extra 100-200m for better tank.

[battlecattle]

Well, you have no damage mods or rigs and nothing to help with tracking, so the only damage bonus you're getting is from the ship bonus. If you're gonna' go with a laser boat for PvE, go with a Nightmare (under 400 mil ISK last I checked). It's a decent shield tank that can easily put out 900 dps or so with t2 mods.