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Crash Mar 2, 2020 @ 7:42am
DLC total cost is not $2000, learn to research
I bought this game on launch for PS4, played it in very small bits and for the most part I've barely been playing it, but I'm seeing youtubers I like (and some I don't particularly care for) kicking up a giant fuss over the apparant "$2000" total in dlc cost, and then of course the roughly £0.85 price to change hair colour (going off 2 tickets for £1.69), which yeah sure it's dodgy but it's not the end of the world.

Anyway, the total cost of DLC, stop looking at the total cost at the bottom of the steam pages dlc list because it's not even a slightly accurate representation of the total cost of getting everything in the game, which if I may add, you do not need to get every damn costume for every single character, anyone with half a brain cell will simply buy the costume(s) they like the look of for the characters they like, just because a costume exists for a character I play it doesn't mean I'm going to buy it or feel some weird need to, I mean my local clothes shop brought in a new brand of trousers but I don't feel the need to complete my wardrobe with them at home.

"How is the total cost not $2000 when it says it is mr smart guy?"
Well, if you even tried to look for a half a minute, you would see that the season passes has a bucket load of costumes packs in there, and some with characters inside them, and if it wasn't already obvious, the costume packs have individual costumes inside them.

Season pass 4 for example costs £73.99, it has the nova costume set which if bought on its own goes for £36.99, it then also has a character and a bundle of her costumes in it, there's also a bunch of other costumes bundled up into there as well. Steam is totaling everything in its entirety to what's up for sale, so in this case, Season pass 4 as it's own thing, the nova costume set as its own thing and all of the individual costumes, so suddenly that £73.99 price on the total steam dlc cost is £73.99 for S4 + £36.99 for the nova set + £49.80 for the total of buying the nova costumes one by 1 to £159.78, and then god knows how much added on for all the other bits in Season 4s pack of items that I don't want to bother searching through, which massively jumps the price of the total cost through the roof, I dare say it would come to roughly around £300 anyway.

What's kind of funny is because of how people do such little research, this big ♥♥♥♥ storm is appearing over this games total dlc cost and of course the buying the ability to change hair colour instead of owning it, but if you look at other games, street fighter 5 for example, that game is basically the exact same if not more expensive than the total cost of this game was, or at least it was until they decided to make this new edition where you get pretty much most of it in the single game purchase, but before that it was no better than this, especially since individual costumes cost more on SF5 than they did on DoA6, but go figure, people don't research, people get mad, people need something to be mad about, so people start spreading misinformation.

TL;DR
The total price is roughly £430 (which also includes the price of the game) if you buy all the bundles for the cheapest total, there's 1 set of 6 costumes I couldn't seem to figure out in the season 4 pass to what it actually was, so it may either cost a little less or a little more, dare say no more than + or - £15.

If I may say one more time, stop acting like you need every single little thing that a game developer adds into a game that's not an MMO, it's such a weird mindset that people have, it seems to be fine for an MMO to release 100+ costumes, but as soon as a none-mmo does it everyone loses their minds.
Last edited by Crash; Mar 2, 2020 @ 12:17pm
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Mith Mar 2, 2020 @ 9:01am 
You are wrong at one point. They know it.

This morning I saw one of those videos, one from YongYea, a YouTuber I personally liked. Despite he has the 2000$ on video title, and started the video with it, later on, he explains that Steam DLC list includes individual and pack costumes. He is not an idiot, but who knows why, he choose that approach because 2000$ sells more. They go for the views, they lie to us at our face, and they do not really care. They can spicy the videos with truth, or more lies, and they can be informative in a way, but they are not constructive.

Then we have random people at forums, that complain about this. When they are told," look the sticky", "you are wrong because....", they continue posting that ♥♥♥♥. We even got a new guy posting one of those videos and claiming about the 2000$ in a few posts and a lot of reply’s.

They are trolling on purpose; they do not care about the game. Looks like they think that their lies will become real if they repeat it a lot, but they will not.

About your post, I will add some moba too, like lol, and some battle royal like Fortnite.
Last edited by Mith; Mar 2, 2020 @ 9:02am
Nothing you say here will stop the fact this is an incredibly greedy game.
theyre not here to research nor to discuss
theyre here to trashtalk like a trash they are
your opinion doesnt matter coz thats not what theyre after

theyre not even a good troll
theyre boring as ♥♥♥♥, spouting the same ♥♥♥♥ like a friggin outdated textbook you can pretty much predict how theyre going to answer back
heck my school textbook back then might actually more interesting than them
ignore them, block them, report them, and never reply to any of them
Last edited by Blue Eyes White Coffee; Mar 2, 2020 @ 12:18pm
Crash Mar 2, 2020 @ 12:00pm 
Originally posted by Liam Neeson Punching Wolves:
Nothing you say here will stop the fact this is an incredibly greedy game.

Greedy how? they sell cosmetics and new characters when they can, I admit that the hair change they recently put in is quite dirty, though at least it's cheap, just pick a color and roll with it, or just don't buy into it, quite simple really.

I also can't stress enough how cheap the costume dlc per character in this game actually is, it puts other games like SF5 to shame when it's virtually 50% cheaper but yet people still call it greedy because of just how many characters and cosmetics per character there is, and because people seem to think that you need to have absolutely everything that ever releases or you don't have a "complete game".
see? :p
Miuna Mar 2, 2020 @ 12:12pm 
Originally posted by Mith:
You are wrong at one point. They know it.

This morning I saw one of those videos, one from YongYea, a YouTuber I personally liked. Despite he has the 2000$ on video title, and started the video with it, later on, he explains that Steam DLC list includes individual and pack costumes. He is not an idiot, but who knows why, he choose that approach because 2000$ sells more. They go for the views, they lie to us at our face, and they do not really care. They can spicy the videos with truth, or more lies, and they can be informative in a way, but they are not constructive.

Then we have random people at forums, that complain about this. When they are told," look the sticky", "you are wrong because....", they continue posting that ♥♥♥♥. We even got a new guy posting one of those videos and claiming about the 2000$ in a few posts and a lot of reply’s.

They are trolling on purpose; they do not care about the game. Looks like they think that their lies will become real if they repeat it a lot, but they will not.

About your post, I will add some moba too, like lol, and some battle royal like Fortnite.
I watched the yong one but it discouraged me. He starts by saying just that, the total is including items covered in season passes and bundles and characters which equally are in them, but then by half way he completly disregards this and proceeds to say its total it $2000. Now this is BS because obviously it isn't that high and he admitted it but all he would do if called out would be edit his pinned comment to say he should point out in reality it wouldn't be that high to own everything, but he click baits his headlines (done this a lot lately, one reason i am going off his videos, that and notice they all are always over 10 mins for that sweet youtube cash bonus).

I wont go into totalling it but i read earlier it works out to be like $400-$500 and Crash said it is around £400 area - £500, which sounds mostly accurate for me (being my local currency and guessing the average price).

Youtubers and lying which only really makes us question what else they lie about. I brought Kula for example and her launch costumes set, i wont buy the season pass with her just to get her again, then buy her characters again (not from the bundle) and then her maid/pirate/wedding/bunny ect costumes again but one their own (despite buying the bundle), so instantly i'm up £20-£30 for costumes and however much the pass would be.

Look, i don't play ps4 so hardly give a toss about hair colour's as clearly KT love to give PS priority and honestly i don't want it anyway. Equally it is shadey and kind of dodgey what they are doing, i don't deny this, changing each time you change is pretty bad but it is what it is, if someone wants to pay less than £1 on hair, so be it, i don't agree with the practise but i don't also agree with Yong and other youtubers lying by multiplying the price by like 4x what it is.
The Costumes are pretty bad, their price is cheap per one but it would be nice to get a batch via ingame currency here and there, the space nova or even the older ones like wedding being coin based (even if only after a year) would be nice and would give us something to spend the coins on (most of us probably have over 5m now).

So yeah, the mtx system is hardly the best out there and sure isn't gonna have me with a shield to defend it HOWEVER, the youtubers have swarmed in, look on Yongs video, the review score when he goes to its page is mostly positive, now its mixed. There is fake dummy accounts spamming forums from actual players making it look worse than it is and above all, we got all this on steam where it isn't even present (the hair colour thing), steam and xbox aren't getting this feature so why are we getting the review score bombed. Yong and the others are saying its £2k (well dollars) to get everything but we established that's complete BS (he didn't even look at the multiple versions of the game for sale), and as you say, i doubt many are buying every costume for every character. I myself only play Kula, Honoka, Marie and Lisa. Now i will players others via random and might oneday learn another but point being, i wont be buying anything for Bass or Kasumi if i don't use them ever. Equally, i wont buy every outfit, i only own for Honoka (my joint main) the halloween, the Atelier outfits and that's it (might own wedding but don't think i do), Marie i only own the Atelier set, Halloween set and the wedding (might get the nova one day), Lisa i don't own any at all (Irony as i do use her but this should show it all), Kuula i brought her release bundle with all her costumes in as she only has them set ones and doesn't have any others. You get the point, i don't own and wont own all costumes, not even for one character so this whole thing feels more stupid to hear people claim i would be spending stupid cash.

Basically its click bait drama blown up on a grand scale by Youtubers for views, and communities who never even looked at the game are happy to scowl at it.
As said, i don't agree with how KT monotise the game to hell and back but equally i think this is getting stupid with people not even looking into it (would of took most youtubers 5 minutes to see what they are saying isn't true, Yong DOES say this then completely 180's on it...
Last edited by Miuna; Mar 2, 2020 @ 12:16pm
k-ricks Mar 2, 2020 @ 12:28pm 
so what it just the same ♥♥♥♥ thread about optional cosmetic DLC that happen again and again since doa5 can't they be more creative
pretty much :3
k-ricks Mar 2, 2020 @ 8:32pm 
yeah $1-$2 each are utterly unreasonable price tag! why don't give us for free we can't get everything of your dlc with this price tag ♥♥♥♥ this right?
Last edited by k-ricks; Mar 2, 2020 @ 8:44pm
Moon Rabbit Mar 2, 2020 @ 9:21pm 
Originally posted by k-ricks:
yeah $1-$2 each are utterly unreasonable price tag! why don't give us for free we can't get everything of your dlc with this price tag ♥♥♥♥ this right?

$92 for a season pass, out of several season passes. Don't be obtuse.

Meanwhile, CDPR is putting out entire expansions with hundreds of hours of original, voiced content for less than half the game's box price. But you keep drinking that AAA koolaid. It's only $2 each!
k-ricks Mar 2, 2020 @ 9:47pm 
so you can't play hundreds of hours with that $2 costume?
C H A I R M A N Mar 2, 2020 @ 11:00pm 
"It's only £430!"
lmao
k-ricks Mar 2, 2020 @ 11:26pm 
"It's only £430!"

yeah buy them all you must (jedi mind trick)
Crash Mar 3, 2020 @ 11:08am 
Originally posted by Big McLargehuge:
Originally posted by Crash:

$2000 or £430, doesn't actually make a difference, because believe it or not, you don't need to walk into your local retail store and buy 1 of every single item in there.

Another awesome "compare this to physical products of completely different natures" counter.

Because the comparison is solid you clown, what kind of screwed up mindset do you need to have to actually feel like you must own literally everything a developer releases in a game that's purely cosmetic? and if you can't you throw a hissy fit, have you played an MMO before? an easy prime example of how this is no different to tons of MMOs when it comes to cosmetics, look at Revelations, Perfect World, Blade and Soul and so forth, then feel free to moan on all of their forums that you can't afford to buy every cosmetic that you don't need, including those for classes that you don't even play.

Providence 777 Mar 3, 2020 @ 11:09am 
Originally posted by Big McLargehuge:
Originally posted by Crash:

$2000 or £430, doesn't actually make a difference, because believe it or not, you don't need to walk into your local retail store and buy 1 of every single item in there.

Another awesome "compare this to physical products of completely different natures" counter.
it's a 1:1 analogy
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