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Rae Sep 1, 2020 @ 6:43am
False Advertisement! This is a scam!
All of this from their current steam store page:

"Experience an epic overarching story, spanning more than 20 missions over three campaigns. Join nine charismatic heroes and their beastly companions in their adventures across Europe. Team-up with a friend and master all campaigns side-by-side in co-op. "

There is NO COOP CAMPAIN in the release version. It simply doesnt exist.

"Command three diverse factions with over 40 unit types and 9 heroes with unique abilities. Setup skirmish and multiplayer matches any way you want. Configure your personal game interface and choose your favourite input controls. "

Its not possible to setup the skirmish and multiplayer matches differently as the option to change the hero or reserve mode is greyed out, not in the game!

"Competitive multiplayer with ladders, ranked matches & leagues. Choose from a vast selection of skirmish maps and challenge maps, available to play in singleplayer and coop. In addition expect regular free updates during the season, including new singleplayer challenges, multiplayer maps and more to look forward to."

There is 0!!! competitive multiplayer in the game as there is NO LADDER, NO RANKED MATCHES, NO LEAGUES. The vast selection of skirmish maps are: 3x 1v1 maps (the old beta maps), 2x 2v2 maps (the old beta maps) and 1x 3v3 map (the old beta map).

Also: "The Deluxe Edition includes a Mini Campaign and a big Add-on, granting access to all new adventures in the alternative reality of 1920+. Exact contents still to be determined, but expect hours of real time strategy and story-driven action of the highest quality!"

There is no big Add-on...
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Blowfeld Sep 1, 2020 @ 6:44am 
The list goes on:

- You missed the steam achievements being part of the game, while devs stated today they will not come in the forseeable future.

- They also already removed Japanese from languages as it was stated to support it, but indeed, did not. Other languages are only parially translated

- Store page also says "full controller support" while devs posted today that controller support is "still work in progress"

- hell, the current game version still mocks people by saying "welcome to open beta" ;D
Last edited by Blowfeld; Sep 1, 2020 @ 6:47am
Sheep_wielder  [developer] Sep 1, 2020 @ 6:50am 
We advertised, although not through Steam, that we still had more things to do. All the things you mentioned and we promised are coming in the next few weeks/months as free regular updates.
You can find out more here:
https://kingart-games.com/article/86-iron-harvest-devblog-29-August-2020#outlook
Rae Sep 1, 2020 @ 6:51am 
So can you please change the steam page so it reflects the current state of the game and not some wishful thinking of what this came could be?

Early Access sounds just about right.

edit: there is no mentioning of the addition of ranked games, leaderboards, coop campain or anything in the link you provided.
Last edited by Rae; Sep 1, 2020 @ 6:56am
FroBodine Sep 1, 2020 @ 6:54am 
Originally posted by Sheep_wielder:
We advertised, although not through Steam, that we still had more things to do. All the things you mentioned and we promised are coming in the next few weeks/months as free regular updates.
You can find out more here:
https://kingart-games.com/article/86-iron-harvest-devblog-29-August-2020#outlook

You need to talk about things like this ON STEAM, where you are selling your game. Where people are buying your game. You need to communicate everything on the Steam forums.
Sheep_wielder  [developer] Sep 1, 2020 @ 6:55am 
Originally posted by Blowfeld:
The list goes on:

- You missed the steam achievements being part of the game, while devs stated today they will not come in the forseeable future.

- They also already removed Japanese from languages as it was stated to support it, but indeed, did not. Other languages are only parially translated

- Store page also says "full controller support" while devs posted today that controller support is "still work in progress"

- hell, the current game version still mocks people by saying "welcome to open beta" ;D

True, right now we do not have Steam achievements, maybe in the future. Instead we have in-game achievements that unlock special cosmetics for your player profile.

Japanese was advertise as a mistake on Steams part. It will come later with the games console release early next year.

Controller support is WIP but it is coming.

The open beta text is a mistake which will be corrected with the next patch.

Blowfeld Sep 1, 2020 @ 7:08am 
Originally posted by Sheep_wielder:
Originally posted by Blowfeld:
The list goes on:

- You missed the steam achievements being part of the game, while devs stated today they will not come in the forseeable future.

- They also already removed Japanese from languages as it was stated to support it, but indeed, did not. Other languages are only parially translated

- Store page also says "full controller support" while devs posted today that controller support is "still work in progress"

- hell, the current game version still mocks people by saying "welcome to open beta" ;D

True, right now we do not have Steam achievements, maybe in the future. Instead we have in-game achievements that unlock special cosmetics for your player profile.

Japanese was advertise as a mistake on Steams part. It will come later with the games console release early next year.

Controller support is WIP but it is coming.

The open beta text is a mistake which will be corrected with the next patch.

Thanks for truthfully acknowleding these things. Very fair.

Now they need to be removed from the Steam page where customers are lead to believe they are already ingame, which leads to obfuscation of fact that these are planned features, not ingame features people pay for.
primkup Sep 1, 2020 @ 7:33am 
I'm genuinely afraid that this game can end up like "World War 3", which is a good game, but it had a poor launch which generally killed it in its first few days.
Rae Sep 1, 2020 @ 7:35am 
The devs are probably not to blame, but this missleading and shady behaviour by a publisher should not be tolerated, no matter how small or indie the actual developer is.
JB™ Sep 1, 2020 @ 8:08am 
Originally posted by Sheep_wielder:
Originally posted by Blowfeld:
The list goes on:

- You missed the steam achievements being part of the game, while devs stated today they will not come in the forseeable future.

- They also already removed Japanese from languages as it was stated to support it, but indeed, did not. Other languages are only parially translated

- Store page also says "full controller support" while devs posted today that controller support is "still work in progress"

- hell, the current game version still mocks people by saying "welcome to open beta" ;D

True, right now we do not have Steam achievements, maybe in the future. Instead we have in-game achievements that unlock special cosmetics for your player profile.

Japanese was advertise as a mistake on Steams part. It will come later with the games console release early next year.

Controller support is WIP but it is coming.

The open beta text is a mistake which will be corrected with the next patch.
You can't go gold on this game and advertise "Full Controller Support" on the store page if it isn't ready and implemented. Some people literally and physically depend on controller support for gaming, be it because of a disability or otherwise, and upon buying the game they would expect it to already be present if it is listed in the panel that shows specific features on the store page.

You should remove this immediately and put it in the description that it is coming soon.
Last edited by JB™; Sep 1, 2020 @ 8:11am
BAGMAN Sep 1, 2020 @ 8:11am 
You need to file a complaint with Steam about the inconsistency of the game with the declared one, let Steam remove the release and make the game "Early Access"
Waifuzilla Sep 1, 2020 @ 8:13am 
Thanks, refunded the game because of all this info. Maybe I will grab it in a year or so when it is actually finished.
Clown Reemus Sep 1, 2020 @ 8:17am 
Originally posted by B3tamax Band1t:
Originally posted by Sheep_wielder:

True, right now we do not have Steam achievements, maybe in the future. Instead we have in-game achievements that unlock special cosmetics for your player profile.

Japanese was advertise as a mistake on Steams part. It will come later with the games console release early next year.

Controller support is WIP but it is coming.

The open beta text is a mistake which will be corrected with the next patch.
You can't go gold on this game and advertise "Full Controller Support" on the store page if it isn't ready and implemented. Some people literally and physically depend on controller support for gaming, be it because of a disability or otherwise, and upon buying the game they would expect it to already be present if it is listed in the panel that shows specific features on the store page.

You should remove this immediately and put it in the description that it is coming soon.
Actually, consumers and customers must report it right now and warn Steam there is a false advertisement on their platform. Hello Games (No Man Sky developer) got in a legal suit because of their lies in the advertisement campaign.

Although I doubt Steam would stand up to Deep Silver and defend the community. They get their dirty money and as long as the masses are paying, they will not lift their fat fingers. Anyone in civilized countries should take this case up to their legal entities to make sure this game and Steam do not violate the consumer rights by presenting an incomplete product advertised as complete.
Rae Sep 1, 2020 @ 9:29am 
Its sad that all we get from them is a simple, the content will be in the game in "2-3 weeks". However they said on discord previously that the stuff will be in the release version. The publisher is likely to blame for this terrible launch with a lot of content missing cause they wanted to go for the meme release date of 1.9.20 Iron Harvest 1920+
Corrosion Sep 1, 2020 @ 9:30am 
It's almost definitely the publisher and not the dev
Amulrei Sep 1, 2020 @ 9:37am 
Quite the pity. I was looking forward to this game but the straight up misleading Steam page and woeful map count means it's a pass from me.

I mean a single 3 vs 3 map in a AAA priced title? Come on...
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