Mutant Year Zero: Road to Eden

Mutant Year Zero: Road to Eden

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ploppo Dec 6, 2018 @ 1:21pm
Can the game be played without the duck and pig thing?
This game looks interesting to me; however, it is clear that there is a duck person and a pig/warthog person.

Are there more animal people things?

Can the game be played without them - ie a team of humans?
Last edited by ploppo; Dec 6, 2018 @ 1:21pm
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LeftPaw Dec 7, 2018 @ 3:15am 
Ah come on. Duck and piggy make this game what it is. It wouldn't be half as good without them. :)
GeneralGonzo Dec 7, 2018 @ 3:20am 
After an hour or two you didn´t realize anymore you play with ducks and pigs ;-)
old.school Dec 7, 2018 @ 9:08am 
Originally posted by grimdanfango:
Can't people just accept a piece of fiction on its own terms?

If the game looks interesting to you, then be interested in whatever it is.

Why condition your interest on the need to tune the character out of it and turn it bland?

The game gives you 3 playable slots for you team, you get to choose out of 5 characters. What if somebody wants to run Selma, Magnus and Foxie on a team? You going to lecture all those people and tell them to play another game? How many other players out there end up taking Bormin and Dux simply because their abilities are too good to pass up? people should not be pigeon-holed into those kinds of choices by the developers. They could have added in a 6th character and given it tanky abilities and change Foxie to be more Sniper-ish. If they do that then now people have to choice between Bormin or that 6th tanky character for a tank, Dux or Foxie for their Sniper and Selma or Magnus as their DPS.

The choice ends up being character mechanics versus character personality. What happens if a person prefers the mechanics of one character but the personality of another and they are only able to take one?
Last edited by old.school; Dec 7, 2018 @ 9:10am
☭Rosa Dec 7, 2018 @ 9:20am 
so much racism; wow
Originally posted by FoE Rosa:
so much racism; wow

ikr, racism on races that don't even exist. Shows how the human mind is naturally designed to have a preconception of dislike to anything that appears different to them. Damn humans.
Last edited by Jon Snow; Dec 7, 2018 @ 9:34am
nickizz Dec 7, 2018 @ 11:30am 
You're a filthy speciest ;D
Xuhybrid Dec 7, 2018 @ 11:58am 
What a stupid and contrived reason to not play a game. Probably racist irl too.
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Dan Dec 7, 2018 @ 12:57pm 
Originally posted by old.school:
Originally posted by grimdanfango:
Can't people just accept a piece of fiction on its own terms?

If the game looks interesting to you, then be interested in whatever it is.

Why condition your interest on the need to tune the character out of it and turn it bland?

The game gives you 3 playable slots for you team, you get to choose out of 5 characters. What if somebody wants to run Selma, Magnus and Foxie on a team? You going to lecture all those people and tell them to play another game? How many other players out there end up taking Bormin and Dux simply because their abilities are too good to pass up? people should not be pigeon-holed into those kinds of choices by the developers. They could have added in a 6th character and given it tanky abilities and change Foxie to be more Sniper-ish. If they do that then now people have to choice between Bormin or that 6th tanky character for a tank, Dux or Foxie for their Sniper and Selma or Magnus as their DPS.

The choice ends up being character mechanics versus character personality. What happens if a person prefers the mechanics of one character but the personality of another and they are only able to take one?

The choice ends up being, accept the game as it's designed, fiction, story, characters and all, or wish for it to be an unrelated game, where you can generate bland, characterless squad-members.
I'm not saying to anyone to go play a different game, just to accept *this* game for what it is, and stop wishing it was like some different game. This game features a duck guy and a pig guy, both with voice-acting, script, and a story partly based around them. It's not Xcom, and it doesn't need to be.

If a person prefers the mechanics of one character but the personality of another, then they're needlessly preconditioning their enjoyment of a great game.
By the end of it, they might still dislike a particular character... that's the way things go. They can say "I never really liked that character", or "that character grew on me", or whatever.

I just don't see the point of wishing, *in advance* of playing a game, that the core characters, intrinsic to the narrative, weren't characters at all, and could be thrown out in favour of custom-created ones, because you *think* you probably won't like them, based solely on preconceptions about characters looking like anthropomorphised animals.

Reminds me of people I've met who flat-out refuse to ever watch a Pixar movie, because "cartoons are for kids". Such a bizarre comfort zone. I wonder if those same people would feel they were too grown up to read Animal Farm.
J Thom123 Dec 8, 2018 @ 9:14pm 
Originally posted by ploppo:
This game looks interesting to me; however, it is clear that there is a duck person and a pig/warthog person.

Are there more animal people things?

Can the game be played without them - ie a team of humans?

So, lemme get this straight...
You have the option to play a game as a pig with a shotgun and a duck with a sniper rifle, blasting their way across a post apocalyptic wasteland...and you want to NOT do that?

I don't get it.
robomagon Dec 8, 2018 @ 10:21pm 
I came here with the same question. The gameplay looks awesome, but I'm just not into furries. :(
Dan Dec 9, 2018 @ 12:50am 
Originally posted by robomagon:
I came here with the same question. The gameplay looks awesome, but I'm just not into furries. :(
Do you usually only play games with characters you have a fetish for?
You don't have to find them sexually attractive... this isn't a dating sim.
Crowley Dec 9, 2018 @ 1:16am 
Originally posted by ploppo:
This game looks interesting to me; however, it is clear that there is a duck person and a pig/warthog person.

Are there more animal people things?

Can the game be played without them - ie a team of humans?
There's a trick actually for playing a full humans team :
- 1 : Go to the shop
- 2 : Press X, C, O, Enter
- 3 : If the shop show you a game called Xcom, you got it!

More seriously, the game's name is MUTANT Year Zero, why do you want to play humans? It's like if you were playing CS:GO and asked if it was possible to be a poney that don't use weapons. There's mutants in this game, cause it's the idea of the game, tho no they aren't just "Comical mutants", no matter if you mean it in the sense of "humoristic" or "comics-like", they're none of that. Just two guys in a post apolypse world trying to survive and all. Yeah, one have a wartog head and the other a duck head, that's all, no change in their personalities, way to act or anything different from any other post-apo survivors.

Originally posted by robomagon:
I came here with the same question. The gameplay looks awesome, but I'm just not into furries. :(

Same thing applies to you, it's not cause they have an animal head that it's "furry stuff". When Xcom 2 was out, first stuff people started to do was to make animal-head-helmet, does it mean it made the game furry stuff? You're not gonna fap on the game anyway, so even if it was "furry", which it's not (anthropomorphe aren't what's called furry), it won't change anything about the gameplay, the experience, the story, and all the stuff the game have to offer. It's not a porn game, a dating sim, a fetish game, or anything of that, so who care how the characters look. I played Octodad and had a load of fun, does it mean I'm into furry? Not related at all.
Last edited by Crowley; Dec 9, 2018 @ 1:21am
old.school Dec 9, 2018 @ 1:28am 
Originally posted by grimdanfango:
Originally posted by old.school:

The game gives you 3 playable slots for you team, you get to choose out of 5 characters. What if somebody wants to run Selma, Magnus and Foxie on a team? You going to lecture all those people and tell them to play another game? How many other players out there end up taking Bormin and Dux simply because their abilities are too good to pass up? people should not be pigeon-holed into those kinds of choices by the developers. They could have added in a 6th character and given it tanky abilities and change Foxie to be more Sniper-ish. If they do that then now people have to choice between Bormin or that 6th tanky character for a tank, Dux or Foxie for their Sniper and Selma or Magnus as their DPS.

The choice ends up being character mechanics versus character personality. What happens if a person prefers the mechanics of one character but the personality of another and they are only able to take one?

The choice ends up being, accept the game as it's designed, fiction, story, characters and all, or wish for it to be an unrelated game, where you can generate bland, characterless squad-members.
I'm not saying to anyone to go play a different game, just to accept *this* game for what it is, and stop wishing it was like some different game. This game features a duck guy and a pig guy, both with voice-acting, script, and a story partly based around them. It's not Xcom, and it doesn't need to be.

If a person prefers the mechanics of one character but the personality of another, then they're needlessly preconditioning their enjoyment of a great game.
By the end of it, they might still dislike a particular character... that's the way things go. They can say "I never really liked that character", or "that character grew on me", or whatever.

"thats the way it goes"

And thats why i dont like it. You like one characters mechanic? or the game heavily favors it? ok then us it. But you dont like that characters personality? oh well thats to bad for you. OTOH they could play the personalities they want but then its a bit unfair if the game is made harder for them. But oh well thats too bad thats what you get for wanting to play a character that you like.

EA/Bioware changed SWTOR's companion system to allow people to take any companion they want and give them any spec they wanted. When previously if your own spec needed a specific companion spec to make gameplay easier you had to take the companion with that spec. And too bad so sad if you didnt like that companions personality. Now before you or anyone else says "well bleh bleh go play swtor then bleh" why do you suppose Bioware made that change? Hell all it would take is a minor change to some of the characters abilities to make people happy playing other characters. Selmas leap could be unlocked as early as Bormins hog rush. Then change Selma's leap to allow her to land on enemies and knock them out for two turns.
Crowley Dec 9, 2018 @ 1:37am 
Originally posted by old.school:
EA/Bioware changed SWTOR's companion system to allow people to take any companion they want and give them any spec they wanted. When previously if your own spec needed a specific companion spec to make gameplay easier you had to take the companion with that spec. And too bad so sad if you didnt like that companions personality. Now before you or anyone else says "well bleh bleh go play swtor then bleh" why do you suppose Bioware made that change? Hell all it would take is a minor change to some of the characters abilities to make people happy playing other characters. Selmas leap could be unlocked as early as Bormins hog rush. Then change Selma's leap to allow her to land on enemies and knock them out for two turns.

Actually, what surprise me is that Selma don't have the stone skin ability. It's surprising because in all the videos/trailers of the game, she's shown with it, almost like if it was her main mutation, but it's not in her mutation tree at all, it's a bit weird.
siema Dec 9, 2018 @ 3:22am 
yea
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