Valve rigging accounts (Cases/capsules) ? ? ? ? ?

[MxFluxTTV]

Anyone else have the feeling that their accounts are rigged? First i had to open 3000 cases to get a knife, now i have opened 1500 sticker capsules and not got 1 red? This seems very not random to me..

[peon]

Originally posted by Hogarth:

Originally posted by MxFluxTTV:

Sorry but opening 3000 crates thats 7,500$ in KEYS ALONE (they are 2.50, right?)

We are talking about a few cases now and then over the last 10 years, not 3000 last month. But still, the odds does not seem to match what (Valve) is claiming, and when you look at streamer videos every time a new case comes out, they always get a knife or two within a couple of 100 cases, this is why it seems highly likely that valve is doing something with player accounts to adjust the odds on these cases.

You weren’t honest about what valve claimed the odds to be, maybe you’re just misunderstanding it again

Hmm, whats interesting to me, is you are right, only because valve is keeping this a trade secret. Even in china, where they are forced to show probability's, I still dont think were getting the full story.

There is more going on here than just random chance.

I remember years ago, this was prolly around the time they put hats into tf2. Reading an article by valve where gabe talks about rewarding the "good" players of the community. Put this in context with the hats and its obvious to me....

People who get more commends, who have more friends, who talk alot to many people, will have their chances higher of getting better drops and unboxing something good is the vibe I was given by his talk. This will reward the good players and keep them in the game.

My problem has always been though, what is a "good" player to valve. Id love to see their metrics.

Much of the cheating, the trolling, the hate, is all brought on by valves design principles imo.

Do I have any proof no, but I got a gut feeling about all this. I think if society wasnt so broken, valve would be investigated for it and the gambling sites they allow to flourish with this game.

-edit-

I know what constitutes a "good"player.

Its not the hours you put into the game, its not the age of your account, its not about your conduct score.

Its about how much money you spend, and I think this is why ranks are completely messed up, and why valve will never fix it because it would be like pulling at a loose thread on a piece of clothing.

[pchuu]

cases should be blocked in every country HAHAHHA s00n VOLVO

[NatoDaiDangoo]

this is quiet scaryy ,,...schools out ,,... and the janitor all lefted some of them didnt even graduate and enjoying their lives ,,...

you might want to do F.A.T.E like keeping chinese people ,,... soon theyre all chickens ,,... it is ROT ,,... and there are rules to them ,,... typical life savers

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by peon:

Originally posted by Hogarth:

You weren’t honest about what valve claimed the odds to be, maybe you’re just misunderstanding it again

Hmm, whats interesting to me, is you are right, only because valve is keeping this a trade secret. Even in china, where they are forced to show probability's, I still dont think were getting the full story.

There is more going on here than just random chance.

I remember years ago, this was prolly around the time they put hats into tf2. Reading an article by valve where gabe talks about rewarding the "good" players of the community. Put this in context with the hats and its obvious to me....

People who get more commends, who have more friends, who talk alot to many people, will have their chances higher of getting better drops and unboxing something good is the vibe I was given by his talk. This will reward the good players and keep them in the game.

My problem has always been though, what is a "good" player to valve. Id love to see their metrics.

Much of the cheating, the trolling, the hate, is all brought on by valves design principles imo.

Do I have any proof no, but I got a gut feeling about all this. I think if society wasnt so broken, valve would be investigated for it and the gambling sites they allow to flourish with this game.

-edit-

I know what constitutes a "good"player.

Its not the hours you put into the game, its not the age of your account, its not about your conduct score.

Its about how much money you spend, and I think this is why ranks are completely messed up, and why valve will never fix it because it would be like pulling at a loose thread on a piece of clothing.

I can assure you commends have nothing to do with case drop chances. That’s nonsense

[Baxxy.Nut]

lol, it is random, that's the point. There is someone who can open 20,000 and never get anything worthwhile while there is a guy who can open 10 and 5 of them be worth something. It isn't rigged, you're just not lucky.

[oOignignoktOo]

The thing is opening a case every now and then is fine and if you get something nice cool. But opening boxes in hopes of getting the exact skin you want is a fools errand most of the time and you're better off just flat out buying it after the initial hype goes down and there are more on the market for sale / trade. I've opened about 40 boxes and my best were 3 pinks. One of them being an AWP graphite back in 2014 from a bravo case I long sold. Kinda wish I held on to it in hindsight because it's a decently valued skin now.

[๖ۣۜM𝓇.№мᶤℂ☭]

Send me some of that money, I'll try and see if my luck works for you.

[MxFluxTTV]

Everyone who has been in this thread giving their opinions, i respect your opinions, even if i dont agree with all of you. Sadly, some of you are more focused on flaming and throwing negative feedbacks that really has nothing to do with the topic.. please be better than that and keep it within the question that is being asked. How much money i spend on cases is none of anyone’s business. And i have never claimed that opening cases is something else than gambling either, so why is this being mentioned? i know very well that the chances of getting good drops is (Low) on these cases.
BUT!, when we talk 3000 cases before a knife drop, then the difference’s, between me <- (A normal Joe), and a big streamer; becomes kind of obvious dont it?
This is why i made this thread. If i am not alone in this experience, if there are other people out there with the same experience as me, then we are actually talking about (foul-play), and THAT, is my business, and everyone else’s business that is spending money on these cases.
If i am alone in this, then i am probably the most unlucky person in the whole cs2 community. And it does not help that i got my first knife on case number 5 either, around 15 years ago.. and then i would not see another knife before i had bought 3000 cases/keys. Something feels very fishy about all of this.

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by MxFluxTTV:

Everyone who has been in this thread giving their opinions, i respect your opinions, even if i dont agree with all of you. Sadly, some of you are more focused on flaming and throwing negative feedbacks that really has nothing to do with the topic.. please be better than that and keep it within the question that is being asked. How much money i spend on cases is none of anyone’s business. And i have never claimed that opening cases is something else than gambling either, so why is this being mentioned? i know very well that the chances of getting good drops is (Low) on these cases.
BUT!, when we talk 3000 cases before a knife drop, then the difference’s, between me <- (A normal Joe), and a big streamer; becomes kind of obvious dont it?
This is why i made this thread. If i am not alone in this experience, if there are other people out there with the same experience as me, then we are actually talking about (foul-play), and THAT, is my business, and everyone else’s business that is spending money on these cases.
If i am alone in this, then i am probably the most unlucky person in the whole cs2 community. And it does not help that i got my first knife on case number 5 either, around 15 years ago.. and then i would not see another knife before i had bought 3000 cases/keys. Something feels very fishy about all of this.

You arent alone, knife drop rates are rare for everyone.

[MxFluxTTV]

Originally posted by Hogarth:

Originally posted by MxFluxTTV:

Everyone who has been in this thread giving their opinions, i respect your opinions, even if i dont agree with all of you. Sadly, some of you are more focused on flaming and throwing negative feedbacks that really has nothing to do with the topic.. please be better than that and keep it within the question that is being asked. How much money i spend on cases is none of anyone’s business. And i have never claimed that opening cases is something else than gambling either, so why is this being mentioned? i know very well that the chances of getting good drops is (Low) on these cases.
BUT!, when we talk 3000 cases before a knife drop, then the difference’s, between me <- (A normal Joe), and a big streamer; becomes kind of obvious dont it?
This is why i made this thread. If i am not alone in this experience, if there are other people out there with the same experience as me, then we are actually talking about (foul-play), and THAT, is my business, and everyone else’s business that is spending money on these cases.
If i am alone in this, then i am probably the most unlucky person in the whole cs2 community. And it does not help that i got my first knife on case number 5 either, around 15 years ago.. and then i would not see another knife before i had bought 3000 cases/keys. Something feels very fishy about all of this.

You arent alone, knife drop rates are rare for everyone.

I know it's not mate, but cmon mate.. 3000 cases is insane, not even you can deny that.

[big cojones]

Originally posted by elite outsider:

no, you just don't understand how gambling works and you shouldn't gamble

hang on to your money, do something more valuable with it

99% of gamblers give up right before they're about to win big

[Gompe]

Originally posted by MxFluxTTV:

Anyone else have the feeling that their accounts are rigged? First i had to open 3000 cases to get a knife, now i have opened 1500 sticker capsules and not got 1 red? This seems very not random to me..

I could see it being a thing. Let's say you have an American Express credit card as your saved payment method. That would tell valve right there that you likely have extra cash to spend. They also know people are gambling to hit the jackpot of knife/glove's, most don't stop until they have hit one. But of course this is just a theoretical answer to the question you asked, you would have no way of knowing if they actually rig accounts.

Most casino's, gambling websites, etc, do use fake wins, house money, and other predatory "advertisement" methods. If they gave a streamer a knife when he was gambling, it could be seen as a advertisement fee from the company end.

[ktulu84]

So are we just gonna ignore thousands of rare items that get unboxed by normal players everyday?

you just got unlucky lol, understand the concept of unboxing

[MxFluxTTV]

Originally posted by Ktulu84:

So are we just gonna ignore thousands of rare items that get unboxed by normal players everyday?

you just got unlucky lol, understand the concept of unboxing

I know there are thousands of people opening boxes everyday that get good items, but i doubt those peopl have 20 year old accounts, like i said, i got my first knife on my 5th box, around 15 years ago, you have to think that Valve might want people to start buying cases, best way to do that is give new players gold's.

[wanetage]

Originally posted by MxFluxTTV:

I know it's not mate, but cmon mate.. 3000 cases is insane, not even you can deny that.

Yeah but there's no such thing as your luck piling up the more cases you open. Try to come to terms with this situation.

Also, gambling has blinded you so much that with the $10K+ you've spent on cases and capsules, you could have directly bought the top-tier items. That's insane.

If you wanted to gamble this much, you could have at least played roulette or something, lol. Not a gambling game with a 1 in 400 chance of getting a rare special item.