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Better|Off|Bob Jan 18, 2018 @ 11:48pm
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Help! Is this site a scam? Probably.
First of all, compliments for being vigilant and applying some critical thinking. Till we figure out if this is a legitimate site not trying to scam you, we should assume they are for all intents and purposes.

There are many more scam sites out there than legitimate sites and it's impossible for us to list them all.

While we do block poor sites (shown as {LINK REMOVED} ) it's easy to make a new site and spam this, especially when often the accounts hijacked are used to spread even more links, or if certain sites use referral programs to trick you into spreading your site even more.

Scam sites are often professionally built, have a convincing proposition and are well operated.
They also come in many forms and continuously evolve, as a result of various steps taken to protect you from these sites.

Don't be fooled though - they are most probably malicious using typically the same approaches to deceive people:
  • Requiring deposits of real world currency to access items from the site.
  • Requesting trade of items for nothing in return - gifting your items to a trade bot on the site.
  • Offering any form of credit to participate in activities on the site.
Even if what the site is offering is different to what is described above you should still not trust it:
  • What is 'legitimate' today, is unlikely to be tomorrow - having some 'winners' establishes that legitimacy (and are often their own accounts).
  • Claims made that a site is not a scam are simply a part of the scam or malicious.
  • It is too good to be true and don't give into your fear of missing out.

Steam has a very clear position on these third party sites. This is outlined in the following Steam news item - In-Game Item Trading Update.

If you follow the Account Security Recommendations and follow the other instructions, links at the bottom, you should encounter no issues.

Points to note:
  • Any appearances of legitimacy through the use services such as Steam login are a misuse of the Steam OpenID API or an attempt at account hijacking.
  • Steam has no business relationships with any of these third party sites.
If however it is too late for you then unfortunately the Steam Community cannot assist you with the recovery of real world currency and/or items.

Please refer to the following support article for further information:
- Trade Scam FAQ
- Account Security Recommendations
Last edited by Felix; Feb 28, 2018 @ 2:03pm
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KillahInstinct Jan 18, 2018 @ 11:49pm 
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This post is part of a series of myths and recurring threads we hope to answer once and for all, or at least provide the community with the opportunity to keep the discussion centralized and not have to answer the same topic time and time again. This way making the forums a more useful place.

mytton Jan 18, 2018 @ 11:54pm 
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Originally posted by Ichor:
Finally lol
Damn I was going to comment
You stole my kinda first comment
Last edited by mytton; Jan 18, 2018 @ 11:54pm
King_BR0K Jan 18, 2018 @ 11:54pm 
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Will you be deleting threads with this question?
The Giving One Jan 18, 2018 @ 11:55pm 
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How Case Opening Sites Scam Their Customers

https://rlewisreports.com/case-opening-sites-scam-customers/

Hope this is ok here. If not, please feel free to let me know or delete. Thanks.
Shadow Wizard Money Gang Jan 18, 2018 @ 11:55pm 
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Originally posted by Fleshy Mammals ( No PC ):
Originally posted by Ichor:
Finally lol
Damn I was going to comment
You stole my kinda first comment
Well uh anyway
Killah what do you think of putting a site like scamadviser in?
But you’d also have to tell people somebody would have to report it before it has a warning on there
Shadow Wizard Money Gang Jan 18, 2018 @ 11:58pm 
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Originally posted by Fleshy Mammals ( No PC ):
Originally posted by Ichor:
Finally lol
Damn I was going to comment
You stole my kinda first comment
I actually had original first comment but it had to be moved second xD
Last edited by Shadow Wizard Money Gang; Jan 18, 2018 @ 11:58pm
KillahInstinct Jan 19, 2018 @ 12:03am 
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Originally posted by AKing1:
Will you be deleting threads with this question?
As usual we lock threasd that are recurring or do not belong.

Threads about random website #93480913483 are not welcome here, we don't provide support for third party websites and Valve's stance on (most of) these sites is clear: http://store.steampowered.com/news/22883/

On top of that, the answer is never going to be the right one and is subject to change.

We recommend, like with the other similar threads, that users provide the relevant bits and direct them here (quote + link).
KillahInstinct Jan 19, 2018 @ 12:05am 
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Originally posted by Ichor:
Originally posted by Fleshy Mammals ( No PC ):
Damn I was going to comment
You stole my kinda first comment
Well uh anyway
Killah what do you think of putting a site like scamadviser in?
But you’d also have to tell people somebody would have to report it before it has a warning on there
A scamadviser is only helpful after people figure out they got scammed. The same people with a tendency to get scammed, don't know about sites like these and will not go and report it there.

I've a bunch of active community members, who are active in trading scenes, or work in IT security and similar fields, who report malicious link to not just me (leading to the {link removed}'s) but to sites like that, or to Google and so on.

In general, they can only act retroactively. As in, the site has to exists before it can be 'taken down' so there is always a risk for people getting scammed. Recommending retroactive methods therefor is besides the point of this document.
Си́нтез Jan 19, 2018 @ 12:23am 
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Honestly, I find this "It is too good to be true..." rule rather strange.

First of all - everyone has a different view of what truth is, so it is up to an individual to pick up specific beliefs and ideas from others.

Second of all - plenty of websites don't ask you for $50 - even if they are able to milk $3 from you - it is already a small profit for them, because plenty of people would rush to "test the website" and "it's just $3 what do I have to lose".

And finally , it is not like giving away $20 or $50 never happened in the history of humanity. And I am not talking about csgo or dota "trade websites" but rather "outside world" promotions and events. In fact there were plenty of these things, so many people could easily believe that there could be giveaway, because these things happen all the time.

So all in all the "If it is too good to be true it probably is" doesn't seem to have much value these days...
Last edited by Си́нтез; Jan 19, 2018 @ 12:24am
Shadow Wizard Money Gang Jan 19, 2018 @ 12:30am 
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Honestly, I find this "It is too good to be true..." rule rather strange.

First of all - everyone has a different view of what truth is, so it is up to an individual to pick up specific beliefs and ideas from others.

Second of all - plenty of websites don't ask you for $50 - even if they are able to milk $3 from you - it is already a small profit for them, because plenty of people would rush to "test the website" and "it's just $3 what do I have to lose".

And finally , it is not like giving away $20 or $50 never happened in the history of humanity. And I am not talking about csgo or dota "trade websites" but rather "outside world" promotions and events. In fact there were plenty of these things, so many people could easily believe that there could be giveaway, because these things happen all the time.

So all in all the "If it is too good to be true it probably is" doesn't seem to have much value these days...
It still works out
Even if you don’t want to use it
Use logic
Say a certain site gives $30 to every user
If it actually gave out $30 free to everyone they’d go bankrupt so quickly
Си́нтез Jan 19, 2018 @ 12:48am 
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Originally posted by Ichor:
Honestly, I find this "It is too good to be true..." rule rather strange.

First of all - everyone has a different view of what truth is, so it is up to an individual to pick up specific beliefs and ideas from others.

Second of all - plenty of websites don't ask you for $50 - even if they are able to milk $3 from you - it is already a small profit for them, because plenty of people would rush to "test the website" and "it's just $3 what do I have to lose".

And finally , it is not like giving away $20 or $50 never happened in the history of humanity. And I am not talking about csgo or dota "trade websites" but rather "outside world" promotions and events. In fact there were plenty of these things, so many people could easily believe that there could be giveaway, because these things happen all the time.

So all in all the "If it is too good to be true it probably is" doesn't seem to have much value these days...
It still works out
Even if you don’t want to use it
Use logic
Say a certain site gives $30 to every user
If it actually gave out $30 free to everyone they’d go bankrupt so quickly
How would the user know that they are giving $30 for free to anyone? He may just see a flashy banner or get a message on steam. And the message may not say "everyone".

Also plenty of companies these days aren't making any profit, yet are still running. So you theory on going bankrupt is not working
Originally posted by Ichor:
It still works out
Even if you don’t want to use it
Use logic
Say a certain site gives $30 to every user
If it actually gave out $30 free to everyone they’d go bankrupt so quickly
How would the user know that they are giving $30 for free to anyone? He may just see a flashy banner or get a message on steam. And the message may not say "everyone".

Also plenty of companies these days aren't making any profit, yet are still running. So you theory on going bankrupt is not working
Every message I’ve seen says ’free $30 or $50 or something for new year’
Also
Those sites would not even break even, but go bankrupt so quickly
Last edited by Shadow Wizard Money Gang; Jan 19, 2018 @ 1:05am
Dicht007™ DiNase Jan 19, 2018 @ 1:09am 
the sad part, those people the thread is made for, wont read it BEFORE they get scammed.


but basicly, we can hope, it helps atleast a few.
KillahInstinct Jan 19, 2018 @ 1:34am 
Originally posted by Dicht007™:
the sad part, those people the thread is made for, wont read it BEFORE they get scammed.


but basicly, we can hope, it helps atleast a few.
The thread is aimed at people asking "is random site #34231 legit?" to provide a simple and definite place to seek answers and for you guys (the helpful users hanging around) to point at. So yes, it will help those people.

Of course the people who are completely clueless about any kind of security, or internet, or life and who just straight rush into a scam without second guessing anything and ignoring all warnings won't be helped - but that's not the intended target.
Dicht007™ DiNase Jan 19, 2018 @ 1:35am 
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Originally posted by KillahInstinct:
Originally posted by Dicht007™:
the sad part, those people the thread is made for, wont read it BEFORE they get scammed.


but basicly, we can hope, it helps atleast a few.
The thread is aimed at people asking "is random site #34231 legit?" to provide a simple and definite place to seek answers and for you guys (the helpful users hanging around) to point at. So yes, it will help those people.

Of course the people who are completely clueless about any kind of security, or internet, or life and who just straight rush into a scam without second guessing anything and ignoring all warnings won't be helped - but that's not the intended target.
lets hope the best.
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