Help thread: Creation Kit\Workshop update problem

[Ilja]

About the problem

There was a Creation Kit\Workshop update that raised the size limit from mods in Skyrim Workshop. This has messed up mod subscriptions and caused problem among players.

Skyrim version itself has not been changed and there have not been changes to Skyrim gaming engine. Mod problems with other sources than Workshop are not related to Creation Kit\Workshop update.

What happened during the update?

• The previous size limit of mods was lifted. Workshop can now handle larger mods than before.
  
  
• Managing of Workshop mods was changed from Skyrm launcher to Steam.
  
  
• New: Steam had previously changed it's API. Skyirm was still using the old API function and Bethesda moved to fix the matter, as expected by Steam.
  
  
• New: Current version will support master files being uploaded to Workshop.
  
  
• New: Unofficial patches are now available in Workshop.

Moving mod managing from launcher to Steam seem to be the main reason causing problems to games that use mod subscription from Workshop. Your old subscriptions are pointing to wrong location and need to get directed properly.

Try this first

Refresh Your Steam Files
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=3134-TIAL-4638&l=english

Do this to fix the possible probelm with Steam client update

- From Steam client: Steam > Check for Steam Client Updates...
- Restart the client.

Do this to fix the Workshop subscription problem

- Favorite mods you had been subscribed to, or write them up.
- Unsubscribe from all your mods in Skyrim Workshop.
- Open your default launcher Data Files view and delete all Skyrim Workshop mods from there.
- Subscribe to your mods again. Make sure that you subscribe to all mods that you had in your ongoing game, or your save may not work properly.
- Run LOOT to sort your load order.

LOOT
https://loot.github.io/

0 byte downloads?

Arthmoor has presented a fix for that in here.

[Skyrim] Fixing Phantom Workshop Downloads AFK Mods
http://afkmods.iguanadons.net/index.php?/topic/4251-skyrim-fixing-phantom-workshop-downloads/

If Workshop lacks mods from your list

See if they are available in Skyrim Nexus. Game does not know or care where the script data is coming from, as far it is there.

Skyrim Nexus - mods and community
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/?

If you are unfamiliar with Nexus, then see the playlist below.

Nexus Mod Manager: Beginner's Guide (YouTube playlist) by Gopher
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE7DlYarj-DdGbu7-Chui4ZQuZZCGbpWl

If missing mod data is not found from Workshop or Nexus

- If missing mod was not using scripts, then you can likely keep playing your game.
- If missing mod was using scripts, then it is recommended that you start a new game.

Trouble after you have parsed missing data

- Backup your save files.
- Use this tool to clean your save. Follow instructions from the description page and do not do anything else.

Save game script cleaner by Hadoram
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363/?

If you are unsure what to do, then ask from below. Please be patient, if you do not get answer right away. Someone will try to help you eventually, but we can't be here 24/7. :)

Resources

I have also made a blog post about this matter. It may be more clear than this troubleshooting post. I was urged to raise it from comments to OP, so here you go.

Blog post: State of Skyrim Workshop
https://iljasuvanto.wordpress.com/2015/07/06/state-of-skyrim-workshop/

Credits

- Trigger, who reminded that using the Favorite is a good way to track mods you had subscribed to.
- Roscaria, for pointing to the Client update.
- grimus, for keeping the coffee pot hot.

Changes

15.07.2016
- Renamed, because Steam censored short term for Creation Kit.
06.02.2016
-- Fixed: Bunch of typos. English is not my first language. You guys should really point out, when I make mistakes.
01.02.2016
- Added: Chapter "Try this first" and link to steam://flushconfig instructions
- Removed: Chapter "Community request" as obsolete.
15.01.2016
- Updated post, removed old data, added links and cleaned the look. Problem is still unsolved.

[Adelin]

Hello,

I tryed tutorials found in steam forum,
And it fixed partially things with half mods not checked inside the launcher.

next: I tryed my own silly method, a mix of different guides lol , and it did not worked either:



I moved every mods to a temp folder.
Removed unofficial patch.

Unsuscribed workshop mods, i kept them as favorite/bookmark.


I uninstalled steam , kept a copy of steamapps folder elsewhere, reinstalled it.
I subscribed again to 47 mods.
I don't remember but Mods was downloaded to userdata/xxxxxxxxxx/ugc
or elsewhere.

I verifyed skyrim cache
I installed unofficial patch.
Used tes5edit on update, dragonborn, heartfire...
I ran skyrim launcher.
Skyrim launcher checked workshop mods and was moving downloaded files to skyrim data folder i think.

The first skyrim launcher start, only 26 mods was detected
next launch 47 but caroline follower mod, breeze home and two other mods was not there.

I moved back my saved mods from a temp folder, kept most recent files while copy transfer was ongoing.(files downloaded by workshop)

I ran the skyrim launcher, this time my missing mods was there, most items marked as subscribed but no check mark yes/no present for Caroline follower mod breezehome and two other mods.
Next i ran loot.

I tryed again to unsuscribe, suscribe the missing mods,

Launched again skyrim launcher.

Now i'm back with every mods marked as unsuscribed.
Launcher disabled workshop mods.



Edit:


removing off:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\29567878\ugc
Reset all settings with steam://flushconfig,
is maybe a step to try ?

[Bumbefly (we/All)]

Adelin, The Update and DLC are not ment to be cleaned. Indeed Loot points them out as the most unclean, but you now have cleaned out files that might be needed by mods or when you use the Creation Kit. See them as "extra's".

[Adelin]

Quick reply:

1
I followed lija's steps again,
It's what is fixing most problems with workshop.

2 Maybe unnecessary
I ran a downloaded steam installer, i kept everything.
I reset settings inside my browser:
steam://flushconfig

still one or two random mods not downloaded.
I had to copy again the missing mods from my backup folder.

3
I played the game with skse, there is no message about missing mods.
It's loading fine.




off topic Answer to Bumbefly Sony Test:
Thank you about the warning,
I didn't explained steps i used.
I think but it's maybe an error, this guide i apply for my skyrim installation with a french version of the unofficial patch is safe (in french sorry): http://wiwiki.wiwiland.net/index.php/Skyrim_:_Nettoyage_de_l%27Update_et_des_DLC

i use the french patch non official for skyrim.in tes 5:
I extracted french strings from
Correctif - Skyrim.bsa
Correctif - Dawnguard.bsa
Correctif - Hearthfire.bsa
Correctif - Dragonborn.bsa
and put them in data\strings.

tes5edit i use only the methode used on the wiki for:
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
Hearthfires.esm
Dragonborn.esm

and don't try anything else.

each time i right click on the esm from the list,

1 other, localization, language, French, apply language.

2 apply filter:
check mark on conflict status inherent by parent everything else unchecked.

3 right click on an esm, remove "Identical to Masters" records.
4 Undelete and Disable References.

5 close tes5 between each esm check.

[Beldraketh]

well tomorrow night ill try his method once again

[Beldraketh]

And if that doesnt work ill just curl up in a ball and die

[Wilting Orchids]

Did the blob thing. This helped. Glad I found this. Thanks so much.

[Beldraketh]

fixed it!
i did everything u said but didnt use loot or any third party stuff just favroited my mods and unsubed then i re
downloaded them one at a time

[Shimrod]

Apologies if asked and answered - this process worked for me, EXCEPT that I have 4 followers (with the followers tweaks mod)... and now that the mods are all resubscribed, all but one follower decide to wander off and not follow me anymore... anyone else having this problem and is there a known fix?

[Bumbefly (we/All)]

Shimrod, i presume you did try releasing your follower and then re-enlist her/him? If that didn't work, maybe a clean save (see below) would help. Actually the clean save should've been made before the mod-changes but with this Bethesda update that has not been possible for any-one.

Quoted from a modder who's name i forgot to write down.

What is a "clean save", and how can I make one?
There are (hardly understood) mechanisms in the engine which cause problems with updates of scripted mods. The mixture of old save data, new scripts, quests, and objects can cause all kinds of problems. When it does not help to use another save, where FNIS Spells have not been used during the last 3 minutes, you should try with a "clean save"

1. Dismiss any follower
   
2. Go to a vanilla interior cell
   
3. Equip only vanilla equipment
   
4. Save and Quit
   
5. Deactivate all pugins that you want to update (or, all except Skyrim.esm and Update.esm)
   
6. Run, load the previous save, save again -> THIS is your "clean save"
   
7. Activate your plugins

There are more complicated "clean save" procedures reported, but they might only be necessary for more complicated mods

[Ilja]

Mellomeme の投稿を引用：

Did the blob thing. This helped. Glad I found this. Thanks so much.

So now we have 1 positive and 1 negative outcome from ClientRegistry.blob?
Good that you got your game working and thank you for reporting that in.

chowder6258 の投稿を引用：

fixed it!
i did everything u said but didnt use loot or any third party stuff just favroited my mods and unsubed then i re
downloaded them one at a time

Nice to know that your game is now working.

To everyone

LOOT (Load Order Optimization Tool) came up above. This tool is supposed to be ran to sort your load order before you start to play. It is strongly recommended to so, or you may face various problems, starting from slight glitches to completely messed game and even persistent CTDs.

If you are unfamiliar with the load order, then I recommend watching these videos. We can't really give proper help to peoples with other matters, if they do not keep their load orders in check.

https://youtu.be/YzsBKYUrcbE
https://youtu.be/SzoyWugzZAw

LOOT
https://loot.github.io/

[Queen Fluffybuns]

My skyrim launcher is not downloading mods and it doesn't even say it's downloading and none of the methods here worked for me :/

[Ilja]

We will be living cabin life over this Easter. I will leave the town this evening and I won't be back until Monday evening. I can not update the original post during that time.

If something changes radically and you need a new OP, just make one and link this there for background information. Otherwise I will read trough your comments and do changes to OP at Monday.

Happy Eastern to everyone. :)

[pedantic_roc]

Bumping is frowned apon, Grimy !

Meanwhile, there seems to be:

B - arnacles
U- nder
M - y
P - C

Can you help? :D

[★Kelvy★]

Al I can say to this now, my workshop mods all four of them are in game data.
Three with a big 'NO' to subscribe in game data box.
The other is there and OK (go figure, I deleted it from my subscribe mod list in workshop.)(I think I got it back from rubbish bin not sure)
Through MO all are unmanaged and are working, so this is where they will stay.
I do not use NMM or workshop anymore, for the last few months, so it is not really affecting my game other than my own stuff ups.

[pedantic_roc]

grimus の投稿を引用：

@ pedantic_roc ( overscrupulous gigantic mythological bird ) - wth, you got some ESP thing going on, what bump? This one? lol

Finally - someone knows what a roc is :-)