race and question to magic resistance

[nordstern]

hi,
first in the fandom stands that magic resistance is effected by all offensive spell damages. My question is (because in my playstyle i have not often combat with casters) does magic resistance also have effect against weapon enchantments?

For example if i get hit by an axe which has enchantment frost damage.. does the resistance work against the frost damage or does it only effect against active doing spells in the magic category and does not effect magic/elemental damage getting from weapons?


The other thing is... i started the game a few times new now. The reason is i am not happy with the choose of my race.

I want that the race has the abilities to play my playstyle. This means: stealth with bow and dagger, archery, 1h sword with shield and light armor.

Orcs here are to specialized. In the lore stands they are as strong as nords if they have a 2h weapon and a heavy armor. The nords on the other side know all kinds of warfare.. light armor, heavy armor, 1h, 2h or formation, loose combat and guerilla tactics. Simply all. So in my opinion the orcs are better in specific situations but overall are the nords. But both classes do not have any history in assassine, stealth or archery.

Many say bretons... but for me they are a mix of nord and imperials.. can everything bot nothing as good as others. The magic resistance is not important for me.. its the looking and the lore/abilities of the lore.

The argonians in these game are simply humanoids with reptilian skin and head... and also a coldblooded reptilian in skyrim? not really... But i love the lore of the argonians. But i think in ESO and Skyrim they are shown really bad.

Then i came to the woodelfs... but they are not the best warriors... they have their bows and this was it. In direct warfare even in their own forests (like the 5 years war showed) they lost clearly the war against the Khajit. So they are much weaker then the Khajit even in their own home.
So we go to the Khajit... especialls the Pahmar-raht will maybe beat every nord or orc. But in Skyrim they have the problem that normaly we can not enter the cities... we can but that feels false. Maybe they should integrate a system like with the orc strongholds to get access. Or add a dialoge were balguuf informs all that we are good and trustful or so.

Altmer, Dunmer are not my classes. I hate the Thalmor and i hunt them in every game and all other altmer. Dunmer are slavemakers and rassists as hell. I mean every race in tamrial has nationalists ideas... but the badasses are altmer and dunmer. The nords are in my opinion no rassists, because its not rassism if you do not like other races. They do not discriminate, slave or kill them in any ways... They simply do not like them. But as long as they tolerate and accept them and that is what they do... they are not racists at all.

The imperials feels not good. They are allrounder and they are the reason of the war so why should an imperial not join the army and fight against its brothers or the stormcloaks.. makes no sence.

I currently missed the redguards... the reason is that they are really good fighters. But they have (as the orcs) their unique style and i am not sure but i do not see them as assassins or so. Because their culture is like japan the samurai and i know they had ninjas but at all i do not see them with this playstyle... and the male variant looks not great... so i had to play the female variant. And i think with many races they look better than the male variants, but the weapons look not good with them. They are to massive and great a such small character can handle it with ease. The reason is that the weapons size do not scale with the characters size.


If it does matter: I will play with the imperials. Because at the end their are many reasons for the stormcloaks. But the nords if they win, are weakend. And so they can not withstand the thalmor if they invade skyrim. And they will do, like they did with hammerfall. And the nord lost decades ago such a war until the imperials helped. So the nords will not be independend. The question is... under the hand of the thalmor direct or indirect and so i think indirect would be better and does not weaken the imperials more. I do not think the nords can withstand like the redguards did.

Currently i am unsure between a male viking nord, a female redguard or a male khajit. Maybe a female woodelf but i can not make a pretty face here.
The nord is... i played to often. The Khajit is like i wrote above and the redguard... i am not sure... i know nearly nothing about the redguards even after i read their lore. They feel so empty... samurai culture, coming vom other continent, best warriors and the war against thalmor... thats all. Desert is also not my favourite enviroment...


Why did the imperator made the peace with the thalmor with such conditions? I mean after the battle of the imperial capital the WHOLE Thalmore army in tamriel was destroyed. Yes many areas in cyrodill too and the armies of the empire too. But this is a stalemate and not a position to capitulate.

thanks for any answers

nordstern

[Buffmania]

I don't think elemental weapon damage is affected by magic resist. It seems to only affect spells and dragon breath from what I can tell.

The peace agreement with the Thalmor was the best of a terrible situation. The Empire was strong enough to defeat the attacking force, but too weak to go on the offensive and crush the rest of them. Suing for peace was a way to buy time to recover especially when most of the agreement can be ignored, subverted or feigned.

[funkmonster7]

You can play any race, to be honest. No race only has magic or 2h weapons or whatever. You can be the only Orc archer in the game and nobody cares.

I normally play Imperial, if not Breton, but I play with mods. I have Alternative Start mod, so when I play a certain race I get different starts. But if I play with vanilla start, it really doesn't matter what my race is...

[(Z) Austerion79]

Well it seems your predicament is more roleplaying wise than anything, as far as I know, the altmer are high elves, yes all of them are annoying but not all of them are like, nazis, those are just the thalmor, just like we humans had the kkk back in the day, and like the nazis they waged war against the empire because almost every elf hates hoomans because talos is the GOAT and pelinal did a thing or two to them in the past, now, all of tamriel belongs to the imperium of man, it always been that way since tiber septim conquered it with the use of the numidium that one dwemer gifted him for his bday or something, skyrim and the nords have always been proud members of the imperium until the thalmors put a gun against the emperors head, but not all of the nords are insurrect, it's just ulfric that started the revolution, but he was always a lousy general anyway, a small man who wants to compensate by becoming highking, weakening his homeland and his brothers over nothing, endangering the little time the impreium had to recover strenght so I don't fw ulfric, he's like a south american populist corrupt guys, the redguards have always hated the elves, and they are the only ones that drove them out of their province in the great war, they have always been the greatest experts when it comes to the use of the sword, they have this thing called swordsinging that's like the thu'um but using swords and their entire patheon is like, super weird, they believe the universe is like a sea, and there's a giant snake that eats itself and everytime it leaves it's previous skin behind a new kalpa starts or something, they also have a lot of cool characters like ebonarm, hoonding, cyrus, diagna, that one guy who yells at you in the imperial arena, and gaiden shinji the guy the other guy is a fan of, they are more like arabs than samurais though, the samurais of the elder scrolls are the ones from akavirii, the taescii and some others, they came here once to slaughter us all but once they saw reman had that dawg in him they dabbed him and went back to akavir, also some stayed and started the blades I think that's why the blades use katanas and wear samurai armors, the imperials are like the americans of tes, like, the impreium of man extends to all tamriel, they live in cyrodill but call themselves imperials? uuh sounds pretty racist to me, so yeah
also everyone hates the orcs for some reason, but they always been one of the most fearsome lines of defense of it.

[alexander_dougherty]

Magic resistance is less effective than the resistance to a specific element, which makes it hard to see if the enchantment is resisting the extra damage from an elemental weapon enchantment....

If it is, it is too small a difference to make a .... difference
You are better off with a fire/shock/ice resistance enchantment, or even all three spread across multiple pieces of gear.

As for the racial bonuses, they are so inconsequential as to be laughable, you can easily create enchantments that overshadow them, apart from the khajiit nighteye and unarmed combat boost, and they are underwhelming too...

Choose your race for RP reasons and ignore the racial bonuses.

[nordstern]

thats what i try to do... And that is why the choise is so difficult for me.

The stats are complete obsolete because leveling them especially at the beginning is so easy. And the passives like dragonskin or frost resistance is for me no reason to choose a race.
For me its the lore and how the race fits in the role i want to play it. Currently i tend to a female redguard.

[Rez Elwin]

So you dislike Altmer and Dunmer because they are racist? You should know that the Redguards (Yokundans) genocided and entire race of elves to total extinction, not a single one left. Then when they arrived in Tamriel they assaulted and destroyed any Elven settlement they came across due to their lingering hatred.

[nordstern]

From the lore of the game (not our values!) they conquered this because they needed a new home. They did not kill them to inhilate them... the killed them to get free space. And this is why they did not killed the orcs after they fleed to high rock (plunder yes... extinction no).

I know thats maybe the same. But under this condition the nord have total extinctioned the snow elves (even if they attacked first). Or what the imperials did to the argonians, etc. The only race who can say has never active inhilated another intelligent race are the bretons. But not because they are better... because they did not need it.

I know from our perspective it looks like the cruels of the nazi in the 2nd Worldwar with other ethnos and its the worst what you can do. But in the world of Tamriel this is not a crime. Also every race in tamriel is highly racist. So the question is not is a race racist... its is not racist from the standards of Tamriel.

And under this condition, are the altmer and dunmer the only races who do slavery, discriminations, crimes and hunting them down against other races with no reasen then they mean they are superior.

The imperials, nords, argonians, khajit, woodelfs, bretons, orcs would never anhilate another race because of superior thinkings. Many of them also do not actively discriminate other races. They do not like them, maybe they hate them. But they tolerate them as long as they are friendly and follow their rules (like green pact in valenwood or so). And that is... for me.. the difference between them.
I know that not all altmer are so bad. But all who are not in the Thalmors are in summerset and so ignoring Tamriel. So nearly all altmer in Tamriel are Thalmors. And only a dead thalmor is a good thalmore. And so their is no reason for me as altmer to fight against my own race... i i wanted to do this, i would to this not in Skyrim.

And the dunmer are really badass racists because they see in all other races only slaves to serve them. The Alliance between the nord and argonians was only to stand not alone and even during these alliance they slaved nords and argonians.

[Dimlhugion]

My dude, you've written several thousand words just to have it all boil down to you having trouble understanding what racism means, both in terms of etymology and practice.

Pick whoever you want, man. You can mod or headcanon literally anything in this game. That's the entire point. Anything from hyper-realism to lore-accuracy to Thomas the Tank Engine. You can do ANYTHING but it's up to YOU to make it happen.

Nobody here has a magic answer for your personal tastes. That's a YOU thing. You gotta figure it out on your own.

[nordstern]

no. I know what it means. But this is from our standard. And i am not willing to evaluate races or persons in its behaviour in our standards instead of theirs, especially in a complete fantasy world. And from the standards in Tamriel what the nord or redguards are relative ok, bot the best, but also by far not the worst and the dunmer and altmer are the worst. I think the best does not exist.. maybe the bretons because they had not to fight great wars and so made no warcrimes (except raiding the orcs) or the imperials which have because of the empire a higher tolerance. But i do not know much of the bretons or the imperials.


Does anybody know why the woodelfs lost so hard against the khajit in the 5 years war? The woodelf had really high populations because they made many kids from lore. They also can handle the bow really good and they prepared and attacked the khajit after another raid. But they still lost really hard. Even their ambushattack on the khajit capital failed badly.

[Dimlhugion]

Look bro, I'm not biting on this one. You want to get into it with other people, have fun but I'm not not your guy for this.

The objectively correct answer to your questions, ALL of them, are "it doesn't matter, do what you want."

EDIT: as such, I feel like it's my time to bow out. Feel free to respond, or not, as you see fit. See, that's the neat thing: I don't have to care about you, nor you me. Stay frosty.

[nordstern]

I know its a problematic theme and maybe every person has a different thinking about it.

One last question:
is their a guide or so how i can make a smooth and good looking female woodelf? Not like a human or wild like many guids say.. like an elf.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by nordstern:

I know its a problematic theme and maybe every person has a different thinking about it.

One last question:
is their a guide or so how i can make a smooth and good looking female woodelf? Not like a human or wild like many guids say.. like an elf.

I will answer that when someone gives me a description of an Elf... A usable description of an elf.

I have seen multiple descriptions of an elf over the years, and the one thing they all have in common is some mystical element that defies description but allows the writer to say they appear superior to Humans in every way because of it...

[nordstern]

More like in TESO. From Skyrim perspective more a full face like the bretons but with the form and determination of an elf. Its small but maybe like the wardancer in TotalWar Warhammer.

But its difficult to discribe....
For my personal likeings the woodelf look to thin in the face. I tried to give them a more oval form but even then it looks thin, because of the bones and because we can not change the cheeks.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by nordstern:

More like in TESO. From Skyrim perspective more a full face like the bretons but with the form and determination of an elf. Its small but maybe like the wardancer in TotalWar Warhammer.

But its difficult to discribe....
For my personal likeings the woodelf look to thin in the face. I tried to give them a more oval form but even then it looks thin, because of the bones and because we can not change the cheeks.

ok, that's usable.
I don't know of a guide for that, apart from suggesting maybe look at mods... you can probably get there if you play around with the face settings, but from what you say it sounds like it might be just outside of what is sculptable with vanilla tools.

[nordstern]

i tried but it was not possible. So i now started as khajit. Und as Pahmar-raht. For this i created a tigerlike max. muscle male Khajit. And then with console i scaled him to a size of 1.2

Khajit in the game are 1.0 scaled so i increased them with 20% size. The Khajit are arround 2m in size. But the Pahmar-raht are 2.4m. So i think it matches.



A short question. I googled it but found no answer. Why did the Bosmer loose the war against the Khajit? I think either the khajit are the better stealth, bow, forest fighters because of their strengh and agility or the bosmer do not know how to fight a war even if they started it. And even the first strike on the unprepaired capital failed badly.

I only found out that the khajit had nord expertes to advice them. But the nords tried to make heavy armor khajits and this failed badly, so the khajit changed to medium armor. From the lore perspective the khajit should loose because of the forest/archer/sneak of the bosmer, which i think is stronger than forest/sneak/meele of the khajit. I know the khajit learned to use longbows... but this good? And the woodelf from the lore have a very high population growth and have from numbers huge repopulate and population potencial. So much that the altmer feared the bosmer could outgrowth them easyly. So i think the bosmer army was larger than the khajit.