Age of Wonders: Planetfall

Age of Wonders: Planetfall

Astasia May 16 @ 10:02am
Is the release date being pushed forward?
Or are they seriously just letting streamers play almost 3 months ahead of everyone else? I don't usually mind when "influencers" get games a bit early to build up hype, but 3 months, I don't know what that's supposed to accomplish.
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BBB May 16 @ 1:02pm 
Builds hype, gets eyeballs on the game...
Astasia May 16 @ 3:13pm 
There is a portion of fluid buyers who get hyped up and interested in random games they've never heard of by watching videos/streams. They usually only take one look at a game, and have very short attention spans. Sending this out to streamers now with an August release date is essentially the devs blowing their load early. Nothing kills the hype of the targeted viewers faster than seeing something is still months away.

The people really interested in the game and have been getting hyped up on the bits and pieces of info released over the past few months, seeing other people play through the game at this point is just frustrating and spoilery.

Gameplay hype and expectation hype are two very different beasts. Building expectations long before release works, a trickle of info, what ifs, imagine that, etc.. Showing nearly full gameplay works when it's a few days early, "You could be playing this tomorrow, get ready." Not, "Here's something 3 months away, watch this random guy with 100 viewers enjoy it, you have to wait ages to touch it." Who exactly gets excited about that?
Last edited by Astasia; May 16 @ 3:13pm
Originally posted by Astasia:
There is a portion of fluid buyers who get hyped up and interested in random games they've never heard of by watching videos/streams. They usually only take one look at a game, and have very short attention spans. Sending this out to streamers now with an August release date is essentially the devs blowing their load early. Nothing kills the hype of the targeted viewers faster than seeing something is still months away.

The people really interested in the game and have been getting hyped up on the bits and pieces of info released over the past few months, seeing other people play through the game at this point is just frustrating and spoilery.

Gameplay hype and expectation hype are two very different beasts. Building expectations long before release works, a trickle of info, what ifs, imagine that, etc.. Showing nearly full gameplay works when it's a few days early, "You could be playing this tomorrow, get ready." Not, "Here's something 3 months away, watch this random guy with 100 viewers enjoy it, you have to wait ages to touch it." Who exactly gets excited about that?

I agree. I just saw a random streamer playing this in "early access". So I came to pick up a copy and was disappointed and thought to myself "3 months away! F@#K That!
mosae May 17 @ 6:36am 
geez it's just a marketing strategy to make the game more known to the public and possibly increase the sales on release.

You can simply ignore the streamers and people playing the (unfinished) game early entirely if it bothers you that much.
BBB May 18 @ 1:17am 
And I suspect there will be more streams closer to launch.
The streamer I saw are also the kind that do play strategy games and as such have an audience potentially interested in them.
This event is pretty certain to put the game onto a lot iof people's radars and while some will be annoyed that the game is still months away, once release happens, the main steam banner shows it and people stream it, people will have a positive impression.

My main criticism is of course that I can't play it this weekend.
Astasia May 19 @ 4:01am 
I am aware of the point of streaming early, and the benefits of doing so. As much as I don't usually like it, I don't mind it. The point is that getting eyes on the game this early doesn't do any good.

You are also dealing with people who tend to stream things when they have motivation to do so, and rarely more than one playthrough. They have some exclusivity now which motivates them to stream and be one of the first to get content out. That motivation is gone in the future now, there's already content people can go back and vod, and playing a game they already played in the past doesn't get them same kind of views as playing something brand new. If you check the vast majority of these channels, 99% of the games they play are one-off and they never cover them again. Again there is a reason for that I went over in an earlier post, people tend to check out a game once and then are no longer interested in it.

Somebody I know got access was Aavak, we can look at a recent example of this effect. He did a Satisfactory playthrough, the first video he released got 65k views, the second got 25k, the 5th 11k, the 10th got 3k views. That is the attention span of the average gamer. Part one of his youtube series on Planetfall got 23k views, part 2 is sitting at 2.3k views after 8 hours, that will probably tick up a little bit more over the next 16 or so hours, but not much. Because it's done. He released his first video on the content, people checked it out, and it's done now. Nobody will care anymore, and the devs did this 3 long months before release.
Reef May 19 @ 8:05pm 
watching one of the let plays, there seemed to be a mixup in communication and the game was streamed early before the embargo was lifted
sikbok  [developer] May 20 @ 12:04am 
Originally posted by Astasia:
Is the release date being pushed forward?

No, it's not.

Originally posted by Astasia:
I don't know what that's supposed to accomplish.

No worries, our marketing team knows what they are doing.

Also, different people work in different ways. So could be you were not the target audience for this promo. In that case give it a bit, I understand there's more promo's on the way : )>
Honestly a few weeks ahead of release sure pure hype, this second all it does is come off as a giant middle finger, three months away but the game is apparently in good enough condition to let youtubers and streamers play
sikbok  [developer] May 22 @ 12:02am 
Originally posted by Acer Spacer:
Honestly a few weeks ahead of release sure pure hype, this second all it does is come off as a giant middle finger, three months away but the game is apparently in good enough condition to let youtubers and streamers play

Sorry to hear that's how you feel.

There's still a fair amount of work to be done. We just gave the people playing instruction on how to work around the areas in need of work.
And, we wrap up on work to the game earlier than release, since making CD's, packaging and shipping takes a while.

Hope that explains things.
Gnomo May 22 @ 11:44am 
I watched Quill and preorder... so, working as intented.
sikbok  [developer] May 23 @ 12:54am 
Originally posted by Gnomo:
I watched Quill and preorder... so, working as intented.

: D>

Yeah, I liked Quill's streams. Mind you, the flattery does play a role here ; )>
StarFishon May 23 @ 10:46am 
i watched DasTactic, one of my fev youtubers.. i think this game is day one for me :)..

just need to know if i bring it to pc or ps4... just love the idea to sit on the couch and play AOW :)
Last edited by StarFishon; May 23 @ 10:46am
I think a very important part of these streams was how ready and functional the game appeared.
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