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I didn't think of the ribbons being connected to the other girls... but it could be . Makes sense actually: Monika's the puppet master, from where all the ribbons come from. Sayori's under the influence of her, up to the point Monika convinces her of killing herself, hence the ribbons in her neck. Natsuki gets completely possesed by Monika, thus she has more ribbons than anyone else to represent that control over her ( even more than Sayori).
Yuri has some ribbons but most of the "colors" of the image appear from the flower in her heart This means that she gets influenced but afterall, she has some control ( not much though).
Yuri being Libitina? Yuri being Elyssa? Yuri being this game "villain"? Sure MatPat has imagination... Any of the girls could be Libitina. But there is no evidence! We have already talked about Libitina and Elyssa at some point in this thread... damn I really REALLY need to organize this ASAP. Anyway, Libitina ( if she's even still alive) could be any girl ( or all girls at once...) because, why not right? It cannot be disproved nor confirmed.
Why would Elyssa get inside the DDLC game? To get the girls out? And then kill herself because she got overpowered by Monika's control? That makes no sense right? In any case, Monika being Elyssa makes more sense since she's the one that wants to end this and be a "hero" in 2018. But like before, no evidence... ( I am really angry at myself right now, I'm sure I've talked about this in the thread but I CAN'T FIND IT. That's it, next week I'm ordering all of this!)
Yuri the villain?What? Does he really say that? That absolutely makes no sense... Yuri, like the other girls, is a test experiment. She just has a lot of Third Eye power but not much control over it. Monika has less Third Eye but she has much more control than her. Might without control is bad. Control without might is as bad too. Only might and control is the winning combination. which is what Monika achieves at the end of the game. Also , very important, there are NO villains in this game except for the facility (if you want to consider them as villains...)
MatPat what is doing right now, in my opinion, is like in Undertale and FNAF. Saying random weightless theories that make people go "wow it could be possible" because there's no way to disprove it and then he will say he was wrong and he will make another video with another weightless theory and the cicle will start again (note he says Part 1 in the video...)He wants
I think that the Third Eye being present in religion has already been commented but not with the same depth like in your comment!
"The Third Eye provides perception beyond ordinary sight"
I already knew this, I mean, everyone here has heard about that "6th sense" right? Divinatory stuff an so on. And me, as a tarot card user, this is my basic knowledge ahaha. Anyway, that reinforces our theory that the Third Eye grants future vision!
But what I didn't know is that the Third Eye is ACTUALLY a part of our brain. Wow really? Interesting...
It's related to sleep/wake patterns? Doesn't Monika get worried for your sleep? you might be unconsciously destroying yourself [...] be sure to have enough sleep Really suspicious...
And look what Descartes said: "the principal seat of the soul and the place in which all our thoughts are formed."
"Descartes split man up into a body and a soul and emphasized that the soul is joined to the whole body by "a certain very small gland situated in the middle of the brain's substance and suspended above the passage through which the spirits in the brain's anterior cavities communicate with those in its posterior cavities"
Also, the pineal gland can produce DMT ( psychodelic drug) under certain circumstances ( the game's glitches maybe?)
This allows more "body-like and physic " theories...
Good finding bro ! Keep the speculation fire burning!
Yeah, Yuri isn't my favorite, but I don't think I can pin everything on her. There's a ton of context in the story that wouldn't make sense if she were sentient. And her behavior just doesn't say villain to me. Also, it doesn't look like he ever found the message that describes them escaping the facility since that one doesn't get as much attention as the rest.
I'm still trying to come up with another reason why the sentience goes to the current president of the literature club besides an entity possessing them. I'm not happy with that theory anymore because at the regular ending, Monika stopped Sayori, which shows that they could have the same power at the same time. That'd probably mean the position itself gives them the power permanently whether they're currently president or not, but why? It also seems out of character for Sayori to act that way unless you get the "true ending" where she's more herself again. So maybe that was "suppressing" the Third Eye?
By the time I hit "post" bloody Steam error ...
Hmmm, Dan has stipulated that all the girls are 18. Wowser USAns are snarking it's just a white lie blah. But apparently it is canon and part of the lore. It supports my idea all the girls share the same DNA, Those posters do also, even more, albeit looking slightly older.
At any rate, 18 means NONE of them could be Libitina. Aaaand, when Monika talks about growing the club before they graduate,means the girls are right at home on the third level.
I saw Just Monika in another thread this morning, tried to send her that picture Dan leaked, her holding the poem (that she sings). Anyway, Steam maybe but she said the link didn't work but thanked me for the kindness. Reminded me that our comment #28 was a long time ago. I am sure looking forward for your rendering order out of chaos. You'll need to do it from here, as well as the transcripts bc special Steamtxt doesn't copy.
We haven't had any hints or nudges except that one in another topic so maybe we're barking up the wrong tree. I'm even beginning to question the whole Third Eye thang.
That's bc there are TWO "CAN YOU HEAR ME.txt"at different times and places, the amount of obfuscation in this game is wondrous.
More confirmation our VT villiain is wrong, see above, girls are 18.
Presidental power ... only Monika has the power to write files into the game.
I agree that being president DOESN'T make you sentient. But I've realized why Sayori knows everything, in the bad, normal and special endings (probably).
Monika, created to be self-aware right even before the game was created ( look at her Twitter) has the objective to keep the DDLC world together: Handle the other girls, live inside of the fake world ... All of this probably as a part of a experiment. She has no idea of your existence yet which is what causes all the game events
This explains why she has stories of the other girls that you don't know, for example when Yuri brought wine to the club once or about the debate club etc etc. If you delete her right away, the "manager" of the world dissapears and all the truth smacks Sayori in the face because she's the first character you meet. Probably the other girls also freaked out too, but you weren't even able to see them. She sees all the truth and decides to take the "easy" exit
In the normal ending, why does Sayori know that all is fake? Because she's the president? NO
Why then? Because she DIED because of Monika's influnce (but not because her Third Eye). Being dead it's what opened her eyes ( not literally) Probably when she was about to die she realized that she was killing herself because of Monika's influence, not because she actually wanted. That explains why she tried to unhang herself so desesperately. Also remember that Monika sees the ordeal. Sayori probably saw Monika on her last moments too and saw that there was something off , not only because of Monika's intentions to get you , but because Monika's true paper as a "manager" She saw (too late) what was happening or what had been happening all along. Then, when she "comes back to life" she remembered what Monika did to her and why and , obviosuly, she wanted to get you too because you probably are too precious. Someone to kill for... damn right? But Sayori has no python powers, how come the Void appears again? Like I said in a previous recent theory, it's a representation of her feelings. She feels at home with you, and since the DDLC world lacks a manager that can sustain it, anything is possible but Monika's still in the game. Why? You just deleted her emotions, not her... She is still in the game and what's even worse, she will probably be there forever ( or not?)
Monika deletes everything because she saw that the DDLC world will only bring them misery (including you) and sends you a final message on the song
In the good ending, just like before, Sayori saw Monika's plan and realized all. Additionally, she probably remembers you spending time with all the girls to make them happy ( or probably Monika told her so, who knows). She then thanks you for making them happy and asks you to come back another time. Why? She knew that the DDLC world , just like before, will only bring suffering so she accepts what Monika is about to do , delete everything, but this time she lets you see all the CG without deleting them afterwards. She deletes them all at the end. Also, she sings you the same song with the same message.
Really sad indeed... But, hey, what happens with Yuri? She also dies ! And what happens with Natsuki? She "dies" too!
Well, Natsuki is easy to explain: She gets possesed. She does and remembers what Monika wants. Monika probably just deletes everything from her mind since why would a slave want memories or free thoughs right?
Yuri's a bit trickier: Yuri does not die a "conventional" death like Sayori. Sayori just gets tricked and influenced. Yuri get's overpowered by Monika's Third Eye. There's a battle between supernatural powers! Yuri's stronger but Monika has more control so Monika at the end wins. Yuri's lose makes her forget everything or maybe just hazy memories remain. She can't remember all because that psychic fight. You must note that during the 2nd act she actually starts to notice everything, like Sayori, but she's too late and never attains sentience.
Her Third Eye is too much for her and never fully understands what's going on...
I agree that all the girls probably share the same DNA ( too many evidences right?) but all of them being 18? Monika says that she didn't approve underage drinking...
But it's true... damn you Salvato, DAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN YOUUUUUUUU (he probably said that to avoid the black copters going to his home or something...)
1. If we consider that the girls are american the legal age to drink in america is 21
2. If we consider the girls japanese the legal age to drink in japan is 20
In both scenarios they're "underage" . We can accept that they're 18 (
The MC then must be 18 too ( not suitable for children right?) but the third level being rare for him? Huh
I think, in my humble opinion, that "Just Monika" is just a roleplayer. I mean, I don't think she actually knows anything "serious".
She was just teasing us or something. Anyway,I kinda miss her comments though... :P
And about the Third Eye... we pretty much have some consistency there. Future vision, etc etc but maybe you're right. What if we got carried away? But it feels like we have advanced so much...
They shouldn't really be considered canon.
If the girls had same DNA, they would have same eye colors.
I agree that posters should not be taken as canon, but they have interesting references that might come in handy
Having the same DNA (or similar) doesn't mean that you have to have the same eye color. For example, Yuri's eyes are blue in real life.
Come on, who has purple eyes right?
The same DNA theory will be developed further in the future, don't worry
But then, any power can be put to evil uses.
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I can get it but I'm the owner.
Nope, error 403, forbidden. If people wanted to get there they would have to sign in dropbox.
But the dropbox link that it's in the description works fine for everyone, I guess.
BTW I've added some more images. This time less "important" ones ( I couldn't stop myself sorry)
I've finally put some order in this chaos!
In the description there's an index to find quickly any important information we might want !
If I've missed something, please let me know!
Also I will update the description as we progress