Doki Doki Literature Club

Doki Doki Literature Club

PIANO THEORY + NEXT GAME + SPECULATIONS *SPOILER*
Right now, just speculation...Watch out! High risk of getting your mind blown...


Here we have a build-in-progress Wordpress:

https://wwwddlcrl.net/

Here in the description you will find the location of the most important content:

Piano Theory
Starts: Comment #9
Status: Closed

Next Game
Starts: Comment #20
Status: Closed

Chronology
Starts: Comment #39
Status: Deprecated by Comment #262

CHR Files
Starts: Comment #43
Status: Closed

Game Layers
Starts:Comment #44
Status: Closed

Sayori's Last Moments
Starts:Comment #47
Status: Closed

Third Eye + Markov
Starts:Comment #56
Status: Closed

Facility FAQ
Starts:Comment #82
Status: Closed

Real Life Examples
Starts:Comment #89
Status: Closed

Monika's 2018 Plan
Starts: Comment #107
Status: Closed

Salty Comments
Starts:Comment #136
Status: Closed

DDLC Universe + Monika's Background
Starts:Comment #166
Status: Closed

Artwork
Starts: Comment #204
Status: Closed

Yuri's Poem
Starts: Comment #212 continues at Comment #562
Status: HOPELESS :steamsad:

Monika's Void
Starts: Comment #236
Status: Closed

Pineal Gland
Starts: Comment #252
Status: Closed

Sayori's Enlightenment
Starts: Comment #261
Status: Closed

Monika's Game Control + Extra Thoughts
Starts: Comment #276
Status: Closed

Hero's Path + Extra Artwork
Starts: Comment #306
Status: Closed with intervention at Comment #338

Game's Symbolism
Starts: Comment #325
Status: Closed

Important Notice
Starts: Comment #338
Status: MUST SEE

Monika's Everything
Starts: Comment #374
Status: Closed

General Ideas About The Game
Starts: Comment #401
Status: Closed

Sayori's Plan
Starts: Comment #421
Status: Closed

Thoughts About The MC
Starts: Comment #477
Status: Closed

Latest And Various General Ideas
Starts: Comment #488
Status: Closed

Girls' Measures
Starts: Comment #563
Status: Closed

Game's Influence
Starts: Comment #596
Status: Closed

Next Game Ideas + Extra Thoughts
Starts: Comment #712
Status: Closed

Sayori's Last Poem
Starts: Comment #819
Status: Closed

Yuri's concern for Monika
Starts: Comment #849
Status: Closed

Sayori's Last Poem in the Festival
Starts: Comment #952
Status: Closed

The Game's In Control
Starts: Comment #975
Status: Closed

Game's Setting
Starts: Comment #998
Status: Closed

The Third Eye Is A Drug
Starts: Comment #1060
Status: Closed

Mini Theories, General Ideas and Afterthoughts
Starts: Comment #1006
Status: Closed

Nijowari
Starts: Comment #1247
Status: OPEN

https://steamcommunity.com/app/698780/discussions/0/1479857071251131988/?ctp=84

Don't be afraid to re-open old topics if you have any questions or you want to contribute!

And here you will find the original question:

Okay I've found this text in one of the files that the game generates and then deletes

G2pilVJccjJiQZ1poiM3iYZhj3I0IRbvj3wxomnoeOatVHUxZ2ozGKJgjXMzj2LgoOitBOM1dSDzHMatdRpmQZpidNehG29mkTxwmDJbGJxsjnVeQT9mTPSwSAOwnuWhSE50ByMpcuJoqGstJOCxqHCtdvG3HJV0TOGuwOIyoOGhwOHgm2GhlZpyISJik3J/

I've tried to decode it in Base64,58 and in many more ways ( even Hashes!) but I get nothing.
I was hoping you guys could give it a shot and see if it actually means something or it's just gibberish

Thanks bros for hanging around and keeping the club amazing :)

Legutóbb szerkesztette: Pandy; 2019. jan. 13., 5:58
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ARG/comments/71z2pt/doki_doki_literature_club_has_more_to_it_than_we/
Opening it up in a code editor reveals more base64 which is not immediately legible when converted [...] it was determined that the string translates to the following after put through a vingere cipher with the key 'libitinia':
What is a man without knowing the rich aroma of the future; the hot, complex balance of the present; and the bittersweet aftertaste of the past?
rockmedved eredeti hozzászólása:
... and the bittersweet aftertaste of the past?

(T_T)
Just... wow. I'm going to take it one step further and say that text is talking about Yuri, Natsuki and Sayori.
The text is actually pretty poetic, yet, disturbing at the same time since, well, it's actually pretty accurate:

We expect the future to be bright and nice

We see the present is balanced, not excessevely good nor bad

And the past has always some good times and bad times which makes us feel both sad and happy at the same time
I appreciate you guys sharing your thoughts on this text, makes me appreciate it more, because, it true spirit of this game's MC, I myself could not even begin to imagine what it was about!
Thank you rockmedved for finding it :steamhappy:
Community spirit, yaaay xD
Btw, I shouldn't really post it here... I should do a new thread but there are too many threads already...

Anyway, here it goes:

I've seen the piano theories that people have commented in the DDLC forum here in Steam.
If you haven't you should check them since they're actually pretty interesting and they're too long to resume here ( and I'm too lazy )

I've been thinking that it MIGHT , and I insist, MIGHT be a Monika's joke.

How so?

Well I think that she's not actually practising piano , but practising PHYTON .
This game was made with python right? Well, Monika is practising python so she won't mess up the game when editing the files and scripts
Also she says that she will show the player her "song" when she's ready, meaning that she will modify the game when she's more confident about it so she won't destroy anything accidentally.

The evolution of the "piano classes"

  • In the first act she practices for the second act and "messes up" Sayori to commit suicide. Maybe she just added the suicide in the script , forced her to do so or "augmented" her depression. Anyway, her objective was to get rid of Sayori but she saw that it was easier to delete her and start over:

    Oh jeez...I didn't break anything, did I? Hold on a sec, I can probably fix this...I think...
    Actually, you know what? This would probably be a lot easier if I just deleted her. She's the one who's making this so difficult. Ahaha! Well, here's goes nothing.


  • In the second act she glitches the game but manages to modify the girls up to a point. She can "control" Natsuki ( deleting her memory * Completely* and making her say things she doesn't want to) and also "messes up" Yuri's obsessive and unbalanced personality to
    scare you off. Again, she maybe "increased" her obsession or modified her script. In the end, she saw that it was going to end like Sayori. So when she also commited suicide ( she knew she was going to do so *have a nice weekend*) , she decided to delete EVERYTHING because she was feeling more confident with her " piano" skills

  • In the third act she has total control of the game now . She can do whatever she wants (save/load control...) Eventhough, there are some parts of the game completely broken, such as the poem maker functionality

  • In the fourth and final act, although she is deleted and no longer in a character file, she still is in the game. She is in the python scripts and can still modify the game one last time to delete all of it and to stop the cycle because, apparently, the President of the Literature Club has the ability to know that they're just scripts and there's a whole world beyond their own limitations.

So, what do you think guys?
Interesting?
Stupid?
Should have I been sober while writing this?

Let me know what you think and thanks for reading this far!
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Pandy; 2017. nov. 3., 11:36
Dearlaice Gortaigh eredeti hozzászólása:
Btw, I shouldn't really post it here... I should do a new thread but there are too many threads already...

Anyway, here it goes:

I've seen the piano theories that people have commented in the DDLC forum here in Steam.
If you haven't you should check them since they're actually pretty interesting and they're too long to resume here ( and I'm too lazy )

I've been thinking that it MIGHT , and I insist, MIGHT be a Monika's joke.

How so?

Well I think that she's not actually practising piano , but practising PHYTON .
This game was made with python right? Well, Monika is practising python so she won't mess up the game when editing the files and scripts
Also she says that she will show the player her "song" when she's ready, meaning that she will modify the game when she's more confident about it so she won't destroy anything accidentally.

The evolution of the "piano classes"

  • In the first act she practices for the second act and "messes up" Sayori to commit suicide. Maybe she just added the suicide in the script , forced her to do so or "augmented" her depression. Anyway, her objective was to get rid of Sayori but she saw that it was easier to delete her and start over:

    Oh jeez...I didn't break anything, did I? Hold on a sec, I can probably fix this...I think...
    Actually, you know what? This would probably be a lot easier if I just deleted her. She's the one who's making this so difficult. Ahaha! Well, here's goes nothing.


  • In the second act she glitches the game but manages to modify the girls up to a point. She can "control" Natsuki ( deleting her memory * Completely* and making her say things she doesn't want to) and also "messes up" Yuri's obsessive and unbalanced personality to
    scare you off. Again, she maybe "increased" her obsession or modified her script. In the end, she saw that it was going to end like Sayori. So when she also commited suicide ( she knew she was going to do so *have a nice weekend*) , she decided to delete EVERYTHING because she was feeling more confident with her " piano" skills

  • In the third act she has total control of the game now . She can do whatever she wants (save/load control...) Eventhough, there are some parts of the game completely broken, such as the poem maker functionality

  • In the fourth and final act, although she is deleted and no longer in a character file, she still is in the game. She is in the python scripts and can still modify the game one last time to delete all of it and to stop the cycle because, apparently, the President of the Literature Club has the ability to know that they're just scripts and there's a whole world beyond their own limitations.

So, what do you think guys?
Interesting?
Stupid?
Should have I been sober while writing this?

Let me know what you think and thanks for reading this far!
Very likely and i think it would make sense considering there would have been much easier ways to get the player's love and that she cannot alter the game perfectly hence the mass amounts of glitches
Dearlaice Gortaigh eredeti hozzászólása:
Btw, I shouldn't really post it here... I should do a new thread but there are too many threads already...

Anyway, here it goes:

I've seen the piano theories that people have commented in the DDLC forum here in Steam.
If you haven't you should check them since they're actually pretty interesting and they're too long to resume here ( and I'm too lazy )

I've been thinking that it MIGHT , and I insist, MIGHT be a Monika's joke.

How so?

Well I think that she's not actually practising piano , but practising PHYTON .
This game was made with python right? Well, Monika is practising python so she won't mess up the game when editing the files and scripts
Also she says that she will show the player her "song" when she's ready, meaning that she will modify the game when she's more confident about it so she won't destroy anything accidentally.

The evolution of the "piano classes"

  • In the first act she practices for the second act and "messes up" Sayori to commit suicide. Maybe she just added the suicide in the script , forced her to do so or "augmented" her depression. Anyway, her objective was to get rid of Sayori but she saw that it was easier to delete her and start over:

    Oh jeez...I didn't break anything, did I? Hold on a sec, I can probably fix this...I think...
    Actually, you know what? This would probably be a lot easier if I just deleted her. She's the one who's making this so difficult. Ahaha! Well, here's goes nothing.


  • In the second act she glitches the game but manages to modify the girls up to a point. She can "control" Natsuki ( deleting her memory * Completely* and making her say things she doesn't want to) and also "messes up" Yuri's obsessive and unbalanced personality to
    scare you off. Again, she maybe "increased" her obsession or modified her script. In the end, she saw that it was going to end like Sayori. So when she also commited suicide ( she knew she was going to do so *have a nice weekend*) , she decided to delete EVERYTHING because she was feeling more confident with her " piano" skills

  • In the third act she has total control of the game now . She can do whatever she wants (save/load control...) Eventhough, there are some parts of the game completely broken, such as the poem maker functionality

  • In the fourth and final act, although she is deleted and no longer in a character file, she still is in the game. She is in the python scripts and can still modify the game one last time to delete all of it and to stop the cycle because, apparently, the President of the Literature Club has the ability to know that they're just scripts and there's a whole world beyond their own limitations.

So, what do you think guys?
Interesting?
Stupid?
Should have I been sober while writing this?

Let me know what you think and thanks for reading this far!

That's an intersting theory. I do have a quote from Monika in the void that might mess it up a bit though (sorry).

"Man, I wish there was a piano in here..."
"I never got to finish that song I was working on."
"And after I worked so hard on it..."
"I never even got a chance to play it for you."
"Well...it is what it is, right?"
"No sense having any regrets."
"I already get to be here with you forever."

Depending on how you interpret this, it could support or refute the piano theory. In support of it, she could be lamenting the fact that there isn't a computer there to show off her new python skills. Another meaning one could take from it is that the "song" she was working on was her own path in the game that the player could take and that she had to destroy all her hard work when she destroyed everything else. But there wouldn't be too much sense in regretting it because she gets to spend the rest of forever with you, right?

However, she openly changes features of the game at that point and doesn't hide it from the player. If her piano skills are really python skills, why would she still be maintaining the facade at this point? That part doesn't make sense to me but you could interpret it any way you like. If there's something you think I've overlooked I'd like to hear about it.
I really like the piano theories. Monika was always late with the piano practice, which doesn't jibe with the attitude she presents as club president. That made me suspicious then it was a cover for something else

Falconhoof, remember Monika's MO is manipulator. Leopards do not change their spots. The little speech to the player character is a metaphor: piano=computer, finish that script, play=run it for you,. And forever= mission accomplished. (And don't let the poor sap know how he's been played.)
To start with, thanks Falconhoof and xae-chan for your responses

About there wouldn't be too much sense in regretting it(destroying all) because she gets to spend the rest of forever with you, right?

Well, her final objective was to spend the rest of her time with you, yes, but she accomplished it in a way that didn't satisfy her. She wanted to play with you during the game. She wanted your poems to be for her, she wanted her own CGs but instead she didn't obtain anything at all. She just was there, watching how you didn't show a single shadow of attention to her. That drove her insanely jealous (she mentions this jealousy in the void if I'm not wrong) and decided to send all to hell just to be with you ( yet she didn't actually delete anything but well)

It's true that she openly changes features of the game at that point and doesn't hide it from the player. But, she wants to keep the game, I mean, she wants to see where it goes, if she can actually make you hate them rather than just throwing you with her to the void (which would be rather boring and dull)

Like xae-chan says Monika's MO is manipulator

She probably enjoys trying to control the girls, playing with you , yet it's true that she ends up tired of trying.

I hate this.
I CAN'T DO ANYTHING. NOTHING.
No matter how many times you play. It's all the same.
It would be really, really easy to kill myself right now. But that would mean I don't get to talk to you anymore.
All I want is for you to hate them. Why is that so hard?



That also explains why she actually stops trying to hide the glitches and her control to the player

xae-chan's response resumes my idea pretty well
I'm really enjoying these discussions. Each new topic is food for thought and leads to more speculations. Right now, I'm thinking that maybe MC and Monika in the void deserved it!
xae-chan eredeti hozzászólása:
I really like the piano theories. Monika was always late with the piano practice, which doesn't jibe with the attitude she presents as club president. That made me suspicious then it was a cover for something else

Falconhoof, remember Monika's MO is manipulator. Leopards do not change their spots. The little speech to the player character is a metaphor: piano=computer, finish that script, play=run it for you,. And forever= mission accomplished. (And don't let the poor sap know how he's been played.)

Up until you said that I hadn't really made much of a connection with manipulation to the player and that's a feasible explanation for the bit I was missing. I like how you pointed out that being late for anything is out of character for her. That does make it much more suspicious.
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