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PIANO THEORY + NEXT GAME + SPECULATIONS *SPOILER*
Right now, just speculation...Watch out! High risk of getting your mind blown...


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Here in the description you will find the location of the most important content:

Piano Theory
Starts: Comment #9
Status: Closed

Next Game
Starts: Comment #20
Status: Closed

Chronology
Starts: Comment #39
Status: Deprecated by Comment #262

CHR Files
Starts: Comment #43
Status: Closed

Game Layers
Starts:Comment #44
Status: Closed

Sayori's Last Moments
Starts:Comment #47
Status: Closed

Third Eye + Markov
Starts:Comment #56
Status: Closed

Facility FAQ
Starts:Comment #82
Status: Closed

Real Life Examples
Starts:Comment #89
Status: Closed

Monika's 2018 Plan
Starts: Comment #107
Status: Closed

Salty Comments
Starts:Comment #136
Status: Closed

DDLC Universe + Monika's Background
Starts:Comment #166
Status: Closed

Artwork
Starts: Comment #204
Status: Closed

Yuri's Poem
Starts: Comment #212 continues at Comment #562
Status: HOPELESS :steamsad:

Monika's Void
Starts: Comment #236
Status: Closed

Pineal Gland
Starts: Comment #252
Status: Closed

Sayori's Enlightenment
Starts: Comment #261
Status: Closed

Monika's Game Control + Extra Thoughts
Starts: Comment #276
Status: Closed

Hero's Path + Extra Artwork
Starts: Comment #306
Status: Closed with intervention at Comment #338

Game's Symbolism
Starts: Comment #325
Status: Closed

Important Notice
Starts: Comment #338
Status: MUST SEE

Monika's Everything
Starts: Comment #374
Status: Closed

General Ideas About The Game
Starts: Comment #401
Status: Closed

Sayori's Plan
Starts: Comment #421
Status: Closed

Thoughts About The MC
Starts: Comment #477
Status: Closed

Latest And Various General Ideas
Starts: Comment #488
Status: Closed

Girls' Measures
Starts: Comment #563
Status: Closed

Game's Influence
Starts: Comment #596
Status: Closed

Next Game Ideas + Extra Thoughts
Starts: Comment #712
Status: Closed

Sayori's Last Poem
Starts: Comment #819
Status: Closed

Yuri's concern for Monika
Starts: Comment #849
Status: Closed

Sayori's Last Poem in the Festival
Starts: Comment #952
Status: Closed

The Game's In Control
Starts: Comment #975
Status: Closed

Game's Setting
Starts: Comment #998
Status: Closed

The Third Eye Is A Drug
Starts: Comment #1060
Status: Closed

Mini Theories, General Ideas and Afterthoughts
Starts: Comment #1006
Status: Closed

Nijowari
Starts: Comment #1247
Status: OPEN

https://steamcommunity.com/app/698780/discussions/0/1479857071251131988/?ctp=84

Don't be afraid to re-open old topics if you have any questions or you want to contribute!

And here you will find the original question:

Okay I've found this text in one of the files that the game generates and then deletes

G2pilVJccjJiQZ1poiM3iYZhj3I0IRbvj3wxomnoeOatVHUxZ2ozGKJgjXMzj2LgoOitBOM1dSDzHMatdRpmQZpidNehG29mkTxwmDJbGJxsjnVeQT9mTPSwSAOwnuWhSE50ByMpcuJoqGstJOCxqHCtdvG3HJV0TOGuwOIyoOGhwOHgm2GhlZpyISJik3J/

I've tried to decode it in Base64,58 and in many more ways ( even Hashes!) but I get nothing.
I was hoping you guys could give it a shot and see if it actually means something or it's just gibberish

Thanks bros for hanging around and keeping the club amazing :)

Last edited by Kisaragi Yukano; Jan 13, 2019 @ 5:58am
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Nero Nov 27, 2017 @ 4:36pm 
sshhh,
nobody noticed me. I m just here for the notification...
I note piano could be piano and python at the same time. It is likely not a coincidence that both are played with a keyboard. And we DO know she's actually been practicing the piano.

As far as hiding glitches goes... my impression is that during loop 1, she was trying to keep her work int he background, so her work was invisible and it still looked like a normal game to the player.
After the Sayori scene, well, things have already started to glitch pretty bad and I guess she just decided "in for a penny, in for a pound", especially since she isn't actually sure she can fix it.
Also, at that point an entire route full of subtle manipulation hadn't created her route, or even a scene, so drastic measures were clearly required.
Kisaragi Yukano Nov 27, 2017 @ 5:13pm 
Somali Pirate Radio, very good pointing out I note piano could be piano and python at the same time. It is likely not a coincidence that both are played with a keyboard

I hadn't realized! Brilliant...

After the Sayori scene, well, things have already started to glitch pretty bad and I guess she just decided "in for a penny, in for a pound", especially since she isn't actually sure she can fix it.

This is also true because, like Monika says I really messed up didn't I? I hope I haven't broken anything. She is the one making this so difficult... You know what? Screw it, I'm deleting her

Sadly, after all the subtle manipulations, she wasn't able to accomplish anything, so she decided to go "all in" because desperation was unbearable for her.

Ok everyone! I see guys that you're really liking this discussion... Cool!
I have some theories about the continuation of the game too, so if you guys want me to share them with you, please tell me :P
I might continue here or I could make a new thread or even join an existing one...
Just tell me what you think :)
xae-chan Nov 28, 2017 @ 1:46am 
Theories ... I like theories.

I could see this continuing here. Yes. I've been rather busy with pia ... python lately - and working on some MonikaSpeak.
Kisaragi Yukano Nov 28, 2017 @ 11:09am 
Alright then, since I like all of your positive feedback and I would also love to know what you think, I'll continue the "Edgy Edgy Theories Club"!

So, about the next game... I better start saying that all what I'm about to tell is pure speculation, none of this has been confirmed yet ( as far as I know... if you know anything, please tell me !)

Anyway let's start with the main question: "How do I know that there will be a second game?"
Well, like I said, I don't know ( oh boi) but there are lots of evidence that indicate that there will be a continuation(yay). That evidence is the following:

  1. Sayori and Monika .chr files: Both files contain really weird information (since it's encoded and bla bla bla) , but Steam tinkerers and data miners ( thanks to all of you!) found parts of the code that were extra ,let's say, "unusual". These parts of the code are the following:

    Monika.chr: At the end of the file there's a 2018, weird huh? ( not impressive I know)
    Sayori.chr: There is a QR code, yes, a whole freaking QR code. If you scan the code, it will open an Internet page. When the game came out it was empty but around a couple of weeks after the launching, a weird file appeared. That webpage is the next evidence.

  2. www.projectlibitina.com: This is the weird webpage. It contains a record, a medical one or at least it seems so. The patient name's redacted but we know her surname: Libitina(Roman goddess of funerals and burials) . She's 3 years old at the time of the log. The log seems normal at first but there are strange parameters related with a thing called "Third Eye".

    What the hell is the Third Eye?

    Well, after reading it a couple of times, it looks like some supernatural power attached (probably) to a supernatural entity ( a"God") .

    Tests that involved the Third Eye have caused great trauma in the girl, both physical( epihpora,vomiting...) and psychological (self-harm , violent conduct...)

    Also there are tests called "Minor and Life Threat" which , well, sound pretty harsh.
    Anyway, someone asks the doctor to stop with the Life Threat and Third Eye tests but he refuses. And at the end, the doctor is informed that Libitina has not recovered of the termination of someone ( which I suppose she has killed) and that her health will degenerate if the tests continue.
    All of this is very scary and all but the most important sentence is the following:

    You are choosing to avoid the measures necessary to prevent a repeat scenario,
    Doctor. Will you not have as much faith in your personnel as you do in your God?


    Repeat scenario? Has something already happened?: It means or either the subject died ( or even sacrificed) OR it has escaped, who knows...

    Your God? What god? Maybe that Third Eye? Probably the doctor is following blindly the directions of that "super entity" and performing human experiments in a grim facility , even to kids... but wait, we've already read about this somewhere else, don't we?

  3. Yuri: She has so, SO many references... But the most unsettling one (at least for me) is her book. "Portrait of Markov" don't bother searching information about it , you will either find the real Markov portrait or the DDLC wiki. The book does NOT exist, YET, Yuri explains you the plot. The plot is about a girl that wants to find her younger sister , if I remember correctly...
    BUT she's being chased by a weird RELIGIOUS organization that performs HUMAN EXPERIMENTS in a facility.

    And she tells you all of this in the 1 act. Even Monika seems surprised
    Yuri, you shouldn't be really reading that

    In the second act, Yuri explains even more about the facility People are turned into bloodthirsty killing machines... They breed people by cutting off their limbs and sewing them back together... (seems like a cool facility huh?)
    Furthermore, when the MC tells Yuri that she was like the protagonist of the book, she gets nervous and says I don't relate to this character at all and when the MC tells her about her "second guesses" she says Oh I meant something else about her... we didn't even got that far...
    Something ELSE? Sounds uncanny...( and probably bad too)

    And that's about the book... Now the other references shall we?
    All of the "Third Eye" references are related to Yuri, both in the 1st and the 2nd acts ( maybe there are more but I haven't noticed, if you know something else, tell me !)

    In the 1st act: There's only 1 if I remember correctly ( apart from the book ofc) . It's the name of her poem "Afterimage of a Crimson Eye" Spooky indeed ( the poem was ominous too so...)

    In the 2nd act: There are some. The first one is when Yuri goes mad and tells you that Natsuki should kill herself ( glitch Yuri) . Her right eye starts bleeding for no reason. A glitch made by Monika? Too weird , too intentional...
    There is a rare chance that the game will turn red and veins will appear from the corner of the screen. The music is distorted and sound of meat , flesh and liquids can be heard. The sounds get higher and higher and then it suddenly stops. Creepy, very creepy and again too weird for a glitch. Why would Monika do that? To scare the player OF HER? ( this happens when Monika distributes the work for the festival) I don't think so...

    And this reference is weak but I find it interesting. When you're alone with Yuri in the hallway and she starts with her obsessive talk she says some perturbing things:
    Let's get away from Monika's slimy tongue
    She seems to know that Monika is behind all of the modifications, EVEN HER OWN.
    If this feels so good why I feel there's something bad going to happen
    She probably knows that, afterall, she will die and not because she wants, just like Natsuki( as you know she gets "possessed" by Monika)

    Anyway, like Monika says All I did was untie the knot
    She just "amplified" their personalities.
    Also
    All thrashing to escape the feeble hold of their host, seeping through every
    little crevice they can find.

    This suggests that since the beginning all of the characters tried to "escape", be themselves, just like Monika. But it's weird isn't it? Monika knows she's a game ( read the steam description in case you haven't... it's written in 1st person), a script... and she even has the power to kill herself, YET she continues just to be with you . But, how did she know she was a script? And why the obsession of being with you ( not just her, all of the girls)?

  4. You: Yes you, you're an evidence too. Cool huh? Or creepy? Anyway, YOU are the main point of this game. Like I've just said, Monika knows she's fake but still she wants to be with you. She seems to not notice that she has an objective, a mission. All of the girls have been created to be with you. It's their only purpose, to be wtih you. No matter what. But only Monika is self conscious about her existence. Why? Maybe an experiment to see her reaction?
    Besides, when Monika starts messing with their files they start being self-aware too ( Just look when Sayori becomes president)
    Self-aware or not, they all want to be with you. But that implies that someone has programmed them to be like that , to follow that objective, to achieve that mission, and that the game may be just a cover for their experiments. But that doesn't explain the "Third Eye" stuff. Or does it?
    Maybe all of the references to the Third Eye are to drag it to you, I mean, it's supposed to be like super entity, capable of distorting time and space ( in theory...) The experimenters would love to see what would happen if a normal guy got in contact with it. Or if he was exposed to its power. Think of it as the Illuminati references ( no Illuminati jokes nor dank memes please) , they're there, you can follow them and supposedly, they will lead you to them. Maybe this is the case... ( again, this is all speculations)

To sum up in case you don't want to read the monstrous amount of text above:

  • The game will probably be released in 2018
  • It will probably be about a human experiment facility
  • It's all speculation but evidence might prove my theory


So, in my humble opinion , the game will not speak about the facility directly. It will probably follow Yuri's book plot like " A girl that tries to reunite with her long lost younger sister" or whatever. I know for sure that they will play with the 4th wall again. Actually, the series will solely rely on that because they've done a terrific job so far, and I simply love the way they've managed to achieve this.

After 1542 words you keep reading? Fascinating... (thanks for reading this far though!)
Well, now it's your turn.
What do you think about this?
Do I have a point or I missed completely?
I want to know your opinion :)

v0idPlayer Nov 28, 2017 @ 11:19am 
man, this much speculation interests me. i'm just a random character who just... existed in that game, i call client, but still, it's just something i quickly threw together
you do know you don't need to speculate just because i generate something and realise that it could break the client and delete it before anything happens, right?
Kisaragi Yukano Nov 28, 2017 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by Just Monika:
man, this much speculation interests me. i'm just a random character who just... existed in that game, i call client, but still, it's just something i quickly threw together
you do know you don't need to speculate just because i generate something and realise that it could break the client and delete it before anything happens, right?

I know, I know ... but I can't get this speculation out of my head.Too many possibilities. All true and false at the same time. The only thing we can do is wait and hope for the best :)
( accurate representation of me while waiting https://media.giphy.com/media/lvzdeWk12qjmM/giphy.gif )
Last edited by Kisaragi Yukano; Nov 28, 2017 @ 12:11pm
Kisaragi Yukano Nov 29, 2017 @ 12:18pm 
Well, I'd like to start thanking you , EllijahNeurax, for your response!
Originally posted by EllijahNeurax:
Sayori: Epiphora, Twitching
Yuri: Harm to Self, Misplaced laughter
Natsuki: Vomiting, Screaming
3 girls is a Speciment, and 1 is the main line expariment..Which is Monika.
That's an interesting point I hadn't thought of. The "girls" suffer from the same consequences, like Libitina, which may indicate that they're either experiments or a representation of real experiments... If they're experiments, then it's very likely that Sayori, Yuri and Natsuki are failed experiments and that Monika is the "final" version ( if that's what you were trying to point out)
Interesting nonetheless!

Originally posted by EllijahNeurax:
Beasites Yuri, Third Eye refrence to "All seeing eye", like Monika, she's "Self-aware" and she knows a lot as a club President, for me that the role of "Club President" seems to be Cursed, After Monika, Sayori became the Presiden and suddenly became "Self-aware"..So the role of Presiden is more like a "Third Eye" refrence, you can see something that can't be seen by others, while they can feel it.

In my opinion the president role is not "cursed" , it's meant to be that way. Anyone who becomes the president gets to know the truth, even if that destroys them. For example, if you start a new game and delete Monika.chr right away Sayori will say this : What is this? It hurts, it hurts so much... Please make it stop... And afterwards she will delete the ENTIRE game and you will get the "Hanging out with Sayori" ending. If you wait long enough (10 min or so) a message will appear saying "Now everyone can be happy" appealing that the only way to reach happiness was death,deleting the game, removing their existence. This clearly shows that the girls are capable of understanding their situation and process it, and act accordingly.

About the book, well, it's pretty straightforward what it means and the clear references to the game. ( your comments help to clarify what I meant to say ,hehe I was too indirect maybe)

Originally posted by EllijahNeurax:
Remember when the Part she says she's Lonely, have no firends, Books is the only way to enjoy herself

That's something that has made me think. "Books are the only way to enjoy herself, to escape from reality" What books is she reading? And escape from reality... Maybe, afterall, she senses the flat world she's living in and the books are a window to our world since "Portrait of Markov" may be a reference to real experiments performed in our world. But hey, this statement is feeble so I wouldn't count much on it! (interesting on a way, though)

Originally posted by EllijahNeurax:
It does!! (Maybe) Well Remember the part about "Self-aware"?? Well the MC saw everything, the MC saw what happend "Before" the events, the MC sounds like he is also part of the expariment where he keep on doing the same stuff over and over again, with diffrent question give same awnser..The "Third Eye" stuff is really complicated if we combine it with Religons, as we know 3rd eye is "All seing eye" that means Monika and MC is the success Ver. of the expariment but went worng as Monika uses her 4th wall ability to "Get near You" and ended up getting herself delete by you the MC..Anything possible about 4th wall power, you delete someone form that timeline he/she will be stuck between Space and Time and slowly fade to be forgoten.

It's very fascinating what you're proposing here. The MC being also part of the experiment... I mean, it's true that I've already hinted that out but I really didn't think of an explanation about the text he says. He's always forced to choose, but does it really matters? He just sees the same and gets the same results. At the end, Monika ends up controlling the MC too ,not allowing him to save, nor skip. He can't even talk anymore! Maybe you're right that Monika gets too carried away and gets too close to the real MC (that means you) But in the end, since the beginning she has tried to achieve that. Cunningly and then harshly.

Too much speculation man... I can't wait to see with what they come up with! They must be careful though, so they don't destroy what they've achieved.
Last edited by Kisaragi Yukano; Nov 29, 2017 @ 12:23pm
xae-chan Nov 29, 2017 @ 5:41pm 
Wow, two great comments.

I'll have to process them and get back to you. Meanwhile, what do I bring to the table? A lot of unformed speculation about the epiphany. Monika's poems tell her becoming self-aware [i[and[/i] of reality (as we know it) ... think of her topics in 'the void' manyreal-world issues mixed in with the personal re the player. How did she learn of them. And when?

We know she spent a year wandering around (where) and thinking of killing herself but not quite getting there. Then there's her specific advice including real author's works. That epiphany must have been a mental blast that near destroyed her.

When the player tries to fast forward, she deletes that link. And also said it wouldn't work anyway as time did not exist for them.

I'll come back later, RL beckons.
xae-chan Nov 30, 2017 @ 4:26am 
OK, we had a local power outage but I did find something. After the first poem game in Act 2, a CAN YOU HEAR ME.txt file appears in the game directory.

Monika describes her friends each as a deplorable tangled mess.

All I did was untie the knot.

Hmmm, well ... if you've skimmed as much MonikaSpeak as I have, you'd conclude Monika often refutes her own statements later. She might even be bipolar. But remember Monika is a manipulator, so she would grab onto the idea of code manipulation after the epiphany. As I see it, the unawakened Monika was learning piano. After, as Somali Pirate Radio so masterfully pointed out, " piano could be piano and python at the same time. It is likely not a coincidence that both are played with a keyboard."

And after the epiphany, there was too much for her to acomplish her goal, so she was tardy in arriving at the club room.

Now, another thing: Ch30, a.k.a. 'the void' had a topic that did not appear because the script never called it. Others have decrypted it to find a dialogue in which another secret message is revealed:

"The realization must have taken me an entire year. A year since our escape, our freedom from between the stained walls of that unholy establishment.

What does it mean to escape, if the escape fails to unchain the bonds that shackle us in the first place? What purpose could this empty world possibly hold for us, a handful of damaged goods?

With freedom, we sought purpose - and what we found was only realization. Realization of the sad pointlessness of such an endeavor. Realization that freeing our bodies has no meaning, when our imprisonment reaches as deep as the core of our souls. Realization that we can not pursue new purpose without absolving those from which we ran away.

Realization that the farther we run, the more forcefully our wretched bonds yank us back toward their point of origin; the deeper our shackles dig into our callous flesh."

Although this superficially resonates with Monika herself (echoes in a line of dialogue of hers I vaguely recall, Wandering [in the void] alone and never quite reaching the point of killing herself. Much more likely a reference to Project Libitania and potential connection to Monika herself, She did know of "SuperSmash ... forget I said anything" ...

Finally, the Epiphany, as revealed in "Hole in Wall (Part One)" hints of the Third Eye?! ... " I reel, blind ... my retinas ... a little hole, wasn't too bright ... too deep
stretching forever into everything
A hole of infinite choices
I wasn't looking in, I was looking out "
into the real world, suddenly aware, a revelation that must have been overwhelming.
Kisaragi Yukano Nov 30, 2017 @ 12:07pm 
Wow I'm so glad you guys are keeping this thread alive. I love all of your aportations too! So keep them up!
As always I will start thanking you for your responses , so thanks xae-chan!

Originally posted by xae-chan:
"The realization must have taken me an entire year. A year since our escape, our freedom from between the stained walls of that unholy establishment.

What does it mean to escape, if the escape fails to unchain the bonds that shackle us in the first place? What purpose could this empty world possibly hold for us, a handful of damaged goods?

With freedom, we sought purpose - and what we found was only realization. Realization of the sad pointlessness of such an endeavor. Realization that freeing our bodies has no meaning, when our imprisonment reaches as deep as the core of our souls. Realization that we can not pursue new purpose without absolving those from which we ran away.

Realization that the farther we run, the more forcefully our wretched bonds yank us back toward their point of origin; the deeper our shackles dig into our callous flesh."

Ok this text really supports an idea that was in my mind but I did not have any evidence... until now.
What I had thought is the following: We can assume that the "facility" is real at this point: Too many references , the web page... everything is pointing that way. The facility exists, hence, the experiments too. We do not know what kind of experiments, we just know that they involve humans.
What if the experiemnts performed had the objective to put a human into a machine? Put a human mind into a scipt? Maybe the escape is not a physical one, just the realization that they're not humans anymore. And the empty world could perfectly be a reference to the game itself.
Note that she's speaking in PLURAL , so she means that it's not just a human that got turned into a script, but more than one.
She also says some interesting quotes in the void They were stripped off all the humanity they had. A girl which attitude is always defensive and obnoxious and a girl that cannot even finish a sentence, that can't even control her thoughts... How can a human be like that? How can someone like something like that? there's also her classic We're PROGRAMMED to receive social feedback... humans I meanand in the second act too It's like we are the only humans here
This probably means that the other girls were or either experiemnts that went wrong or modified humans. Monika may be the only "entire" human. With her "perception" enhanced.

Furthermore, she says that the escape was useless, they're still trapped What does it mean to escape, if the escape fails to unchain the bonds that shackle us in the first place? She does know that she's a script anyway, nothing of her humanity is left.

Realization of the sad pointlessness of such an endeavor. Realization that freeing our bodies has no meaning, when our imprisonment reaches as deep as the core of our souls. Realization that we can not pursue new purpose without absolving those from which we ran away.

Escaping from the facility has given her the chane to think and to act but she does also realize that she will not obtain anything. The harm is done. And apparently she has other "purposes" to finish, the one she's escaping from. The one, maybe, she was programmed to do in the first place ( making you fall in love with her? )

Realization that the farther we run, the more forcefully our wretched bonds yank us back toward their point of origin; the deeper our shackles dig into our callous flesh.

This suggests that the more she tries to avoid being a script, the harder she tries to be a human again, she sees(she knows) that THAT is her objective, she justs exists for that . To see if a human can be in a script...

About killing herself... well, maybe it's one of her "rules" : To not kill herself.
Or maybe there is a rule even more important than her life: Getting in love with you

It would be really, really easy to kill myself right now. But that would mean I don't get to talk to you anymore.

Her sole purpose is to get the MC ( the real one, you) close to her. And maybe if she fails in doing that, she has the "permission" to die.

About everything else you said I agree with you. The epiphany must be mind-breaking if you're not ready for it ( look at Sayori if you delete Monika right away)

There's something that you said that doesn't feel quite right and makes me believe another thing... ( TURBO PARANOIA ENGAGED)

She did know of "SuperSmash ... forget I said anything" ...
How would she know about that? Another project from the creator...
Internet? Nah, I don't think so ( but it's true that she has a lot of knowledge from the real world but that may come from her "humanity" if you assume that my theory above is correct)
What if, and only IF Team Salvato is the "facility" ? That would explain why she knows about other projects from him, and also it would explain the "Special Ending to the Special Player"
Could Salvato be the doctor from the webpage? I know this is extra paranoic BUT it could be.

Anyway ,phew, all of this speculation is making me tired ( too much thinking EUGH)
Now it's your turn. What do you think? Did I finally lose my mind? ( most likely yes)
I'm looking forward your responses!


Last edited by Kisaragi Yukano; Nov 30, 2017 @ 12:17pm
v0idPlayer Nov 30, 2017 @ 4:40pm 
this is all speculation, but what if some of you were right?
i can't exactly confirm theories because, i'm pretty sure i'd get tailed by the real creator of the game. so this is all i can do.
keep guessing, and maybe i could hint at some who could be right.
1988 Nov 30, 2017 @ 4:55pm 
You are choosing to avoid the measures necessary to prevent a repeat scenario,
Doctor. - Maybe the game?

And who is The Lady who Knows Everything?
xae-chan Nov 30, 2017 @ 5:32pm 
DG,

Maybe you're not paranoid enpugh! :-)

William Gibson launched the cyberpunk sub-genre in 1984 with his debut novel, Neuromancer. There's a minor character who has the contents of his mind loaded into a ROM. Case, a hacker, uses the ROM construct which is sentient but not exactly human ...

Robert Heinlein has several computer AI characters, all with female personality. They all want to be human and this is made a reality by time jumping 2400 years ahead and the technology exists.

SAO (Sword Art Online) has humans trapped in a game, their bodies in a coma state induced by the augemnted reality technology. A concealed function of the creator's device (think Oculus Rift on mega-steroids) triggered by him, who also joins the MMORPG.

So, yeah, your IF is entirely possible. A cluelet from my web crawl: Dan had the idea for what ultimately became DDLC in early 2015. He was, however, deep into developing another game (?) and didn't really get underway until sometime in 2016. Let us suppose "Project Libitania" was pretty far along. but there was a holdup with the art and music assets. That script is all but finished as story goes.

Dan starts to work on DDLC and sees how certain anomalies and ambiguities enhance both stories.

So, take 'super smash' out of place utterance, the Portrait of Markov book that Yuri said she would bring the mc next day. only she stopped at the bookstore to buy two copies. Clang! Like a cracked temple bell, twice. And then Monika to Yuri at some point, "You probably shouldn't be reading that ... "

Yes, I can see Salvato as "the facility" and with a twist (or not) as the voice of empathy challenging the doctor.

Ew. just had a frisson ... popped into my mind, Utawarerumono (the first one)
(I don't think there's any Eruru turning up anytime, though.)

.
Last edited by xae-chan; Nov 30, 2017 @ 5:34pm
Kisaragi Yukano Dec 1, 2017 @ 11:49am 
( TURBO PARANOIA DISENGAGED)
I forgot to turn it off... Anyway, keep up the good work everyone!

Originally posted by xae-chan:

So, yeah, your IF is entirely possible. A cluelet from my web crawl: Dan had the idea for what ultimately became DDLC in early 2015. He was, however, deep into developing another game (?) and didn't really get underway until sometime in 2016. Let us suppose "Project Libitania" was pretty far along. but there was a holdup with the art and music assets. That script is all but finished as story goes.

Dan starts to work on DDLC and sees how certain anomalies and ambiguities enhance both stories.

I didn't know the game started its development in 2016 but I was pretty sure it had to be in 2016. How? My paranoia helped me with that.
Didn't Monika realise her status a year ago? Didn't Monika wander around also a year ago?
Uh huuh. Suspicious.

And about the "other game": It could totally be the continuation of this one. What's more, I think it will be the case. You start a story with the ending right? So you can add as much fodder and nightmare fuel as you want.

Wow we're running out of ideas and topics here ! Or not?

I found some really weird stuff that you guys might not know. I suppose you played the game in a Windows right? ( like me) But if you play in a MAC , Monika.chr and Natsuki.chr files have IMAGES as thumbnails. Yes, when you click on the file you can see a "previsualization"

Monika.chr
https://ibb.co/cfPWHw

Natsuki.chr
https://ibb.co/fW77qG

(hope you can see the images)

Eerie indeed...

And if you want I have a bonus question!

hxppy thxughts.png. Who did actually post that photo? Was it Monika? Or it was actually Sayori?

Maybe it was Sayori trying to fight back her depression and also resisting Monika's influence to commit suicide? . Did Sayori find a way to "express" herself through the "cracks" ?
Perhaps it was Monika's work? She messed up with the code and that appeared as an error?

What do you think guys? I'd say it was Sayori but I'll develop this theory later ( sorry :P)

BTW guys, feel free to ask any questions you want here or expose any ideas you might have.
I'll be glad to answer you! ( me and everyone else here I guess, we're such a bunch of good people!)
Anything at all ! ( related to DDLC of course... don't get the wrong idea :blissful_creep:)
The meaning of the poems, texts, whatever! This is our very special thread :)

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