Doki Doki Literature Club

Doki Doki Literature Club

PIANO THEORY + NEXT GAME + SPECULATIONS *SPOILER*
Right now, just speculation...Watch out! High risk of getting your mind blown...


Here we have a build-in-progress Wordpress:

https://wwwddlcrl.net/

Here in the description you will find the location of the most important content:

Piano Theory
Starts: Comment #9
Status: Closed

Next Game
Starts: Comment #20
Status: Closed

Chronology
Starts: Comment #39
Status: Deprecated by Comment #262

CHR Files
Starts: Comment #43
Status: Closed

Game Layers
Starts:Comment #44
Status: Closed

Sayori's Last Moments
Starts:Comment #47
Status: Closed

Third Eye + Markov
Starts:Comment #56
Status: Closed

Facility FAQ
Starts:Comment #82
Status: Closed

Real Life Examples
Starts:Comment #89
Status: Closed

Monika's 2018 Plan
Starts: Comment #107
Status: Closed

Salty Comments
Starts:Comment #136
Status: Closed

DDLC Universe + Monika's Background
Starts:Comment #166
Status: Closed

Artwork
Starts: Comment #204
Status: Closed

Yuri's Poem
Starts: Comment #212 continues at Comment #562
Status: HOPELESS :steamsad:

Monika's Void
Starts: Comment #236
Status: Closed

Pineal Gland
Starts: Comment #252
Status: Closed

Sayori's Enlightenment
Starts: Comment #261
Status: Closed

Monika's Game Control + Extra Thoughts
Starts: Comment #276
Status: Closed

Hero's Path + Extra Artwork
Starts: Comment #306
Status: Closed with intervention at Comment #338

Game's Symbolism
Starts: Comment #325
Status: Closed

Important Notice
Starts: Comment #338
Status: MUST SEE

Monika's Everything
Starts: Comment #374
Status: Closed

General Ideas About The Game
Starts: Comment #401
Status: Closed

Sayori's Plan
Starts: Comment #421
Status: Closed

Thoughts About The MC
Starts: Comment #477
Status: Closed

Latest And Various General Ideas
Starts: Comment #488
Status: Closed

Girls' Measures
Starts: Comment #563
Status: Closed

Game's Influence
Starts: Comment #596
Status: Closed

Next Game Ideas + Extra Thoughts
Starts: Comment #712
Status: Closed

Sayori's Last Poem
Starts: Comment #819
Status: Closed

Yuri's concern for Monika
Starts: Comment #849
Status: Closed

Sayori's Last Poem in the Festival
Starts: Comment #952
Status: Closed

The Game's In Control
Starts: Comment #975
Status: Closed

Game's Setting
Starts: Comment #998
Status: Closed

The Third Eye Is A Drug
Starts: Comment #1060
Status: Closed

Mini Theories, General Ideas and Afterthoughts
Starts: Comment #1006
Status: Closed

Nijowari
Starts: Comment #1247
Status: OPEN

https://steamcommunity.com/app/698780/discussions/0/1479857071251131988/?ctp=84

Don't be afraid to re-open old topics if you have any questions or you want to contribute!

And here you will find the original question:

Okay I've found this text in one of the files that the game generates and then deletes

G2pilVJccjJiQZ1poiM3iYZhj3I0IRbvj3wxomnoeOatVHUxZ2ozGKJgjXMzj2LgoOitBOM1dSDzHMatdRpmQZpidNehG29mkTxwmDJbGJxsjnVeQT9mTPSwSAOwnuWhSE50ByMpcuJoqGstJOCxqHCtdvG3HJV0TOGuwOIyoOGhwOHgm2GhlZpyISJik3J/

I've tried to decode it in Base64,58 and in many more ways ( even Hashes!) but I get nothing.
I was hoping you guys could give it a shot and see if it actually means something or it's just gibberish

Thanks bros for hanging around and keeping the club amazing :)

Last edited by Kisaragi Yukano; Jan 13, 2019 @ 5:58am
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Kisaragi Yukano Dec 16, 2017 @ 3:15pm 
Originally posted by MonIKEA:
SO, those ribbon is connected to each other right?? And what MatPat says Yuri is either Libitina or that other Girl (What is her name again??) with 3rd eye stuff, the Symtoms also prove it and, well if Yuri killed her self where the hell the idea that Yuri will be the game Villain came from?? Can anyone tell me that does MatPat do get the point or he just Throw random ♥♥♥♥ theory??

I didn't think of the ribbons being connected to the other girls... but it could be . Makes sense actually: Monika's the puppet master, from where all the ribbons come from. Sayori's under the influence of her, up to the point Monika convinces her of killing herself, hence the ribbons in her neck. Natsuki gets completely possesed by Monika, thus she has more ribbons than anyone else to represent that control over her ( even more than Sayori).
Yuri has some ribbons but most of the "colors" of the image appear from the flower in her heart This means that she gets influenced but afterall, she has some control ( not much though).

Yuri being Libitina? Yuri being Elyssa? Yuri being this game "villain"? Sure MatPat has imagination... Any of the girls could be Libitina. But there is no evidence! We have already talked about Libitina and Elyssa at some point in this thread... damn I really REALLY need to organize this ASAP. Anyway, Libitina ( if she's even still alive) could be any girl ( or all girls at once...) because, why not right? It cannot be disproved nor confirmed.


Why would Elyssa get inside the DDLC game? To get the girls out? And then kill herself because she got overpowered by Monika's control? That makes no sense right? In any case, Monika being Elyssa makes more sense since she's the one that wants to end this and be a "hero" in 2018. But like before, no evidence... ( I am really angry at myself right now, I'm sure I've talked about this in the thread but I CAN'T FIND IT. That's it, next week I'm ordering all of this!)

Yuri the villain?What? Does he really say that? That absolutely makes no sense... Yuri, like the other girls, is a test experiment. She just has a lot of Third Eye power but not much control over it. Monika has less Third Eye but she has much more control than her. Might without control is bad. Control without might is as bad too. Only might and control is the winning combination. which is what Monika achieves at the end of the game. Also , very important, there are NO villains in this game except for the facility (if you want to consider them as villains...)
:poop: now I have the song stuck in my head...

MatPat what is doing right now, in my opinion, is like in Undertale and FNAF. Saying random weightless theories that make people go "wow it could be possible" because there's no way to disprove it and then he will say he was wrong and he will make another video with another weightless theory and the cicle will start again (note he says Part 1 in the video...)He wants :dosh: my friend ( and subs)






Last edited by Kisaragi Yukano; Dec 16, 2017 @ 3:20pm
Kisaragi Yukano Dec 16, 2017 @ 3:50pm 
Originally posted by xae-chan:
I don't think anyone has mentioned this:

The pineal gland (also called the pineal body, epiphysis cerebri, epiphysis or the "third eye") is a small endocrine gland. It produces melatonin, a hormone that affects the modulation of wake/sleep patterns and photoperiodic (seasonal) functions. It is located near to the center of the brain between the two hemispheres, tucked in a groove where the two rounded thalamic bodies join. Unlike much of the rest of the brain, the pineal gland is not isolated from the body by the blood-brain barrier system. It is reddish-gray and about the size of a pea (8 mm in humans).

And a dose of mysticism for balance:

Considered the most powerful and highest source of ethereal energy available to humans, the pineal gland has always been important in initiating supernatural powers. Development of psychic talents has been closely associated with this organ of higher vision.

... as a physical eye that could see beyond space-time ...

HinduismBuddhism
the ‘eye of insight’ in the forehead of an image of a deity, especially the god Shiva.

Also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_eye

I think that the Third Eye being present in religion has already been commented but not with the same depth like in your comment!

"The Third Eye provides perception beyond ordinary sight"

I already knew this, I mean, everyone here has heard about that "6th sense" right? Divinatory stuff an so on. And me, as a tarot card user, this is my basic knowledge ahaha. Anyway, that reinforces our theory that the Third Eye grants future vision!

But what I didn't know is that the Third Eye is ACTUALLY a part of our brain. Wow really? Interesting...

It's related to sleep/wake patterns? Doesn't Monika get worried for your sleep? you might be unconsciously destroying yourself [...] be sure to have enough sleep Really suspicious...

And look what Descartes said: "the principal seat of the soul and the place in which all our thoughts are formed."

"Descartes split man up into a body and a soul and emphasized that the soul is joined to the whole body by "a certain very small gland situated in the middle of the brain's substance and suspended above the passage through which the spirits in the brain's anterior cavities communicate with those in its posterior cavities"

Also, the pineal gland can produce DMT ( psychodelic drug) under certain circumstances ( the game's glitches maybe?)

This allows more "body-like and physic " theories...

Good finding bro ! Keep the speculation fire burning!
Last edited by Kisaragi Yukano; Dec 16, 2017 @ 3:51pm
kwhero Dec 16, 2017 @ 3:55pm 
Originally posted by Dearlaice Gortaigh:
Yuri the villain?What? Does he really say that? That absolutely makes no sense... Yuri, like the other girls, is a test experiment.

Yeah, Yuri isn't my favorite, but I don't think I can pin everything on her. There's a ton of context in the story that wouldn't make sense if she were sentient. And her behavior just doesn't say villain to me. Also, it doesn't look like he ever found the message that describes them escaping the facility since that one doesn't get as much attention as the rest.

I'm still trying to come up with another reason why the sentience goes to the current president of the literature club besides an entity possessing them. I'm not happy with that theory anymore because at the regular ending, Monika stopped Sayori, which shows that they could have the same power at the same time. That'd probably mean the position itself gives them the power permanently whether they're currently president or not, but why? It also seems out of character for Sayori to act that way unless you get the "true ending" where she's more herself again. So maybe that was "suppressing" the Third Eye?
xae-chan Dec 16, 2017 @ 4:19pm 
I was writing this, DG, in response to your previous comment.
By the time I hit "post" bloody Steam error ...

Hmmm, Dan has stipulated that all the girls are 18. Wowser USAns are snarking it's just a white lie blah. But apparently it is canon and part of the lore. It supports my idea all the girls share the same DNA, Those posters do also, even more, albeit looking slightly older.

At any rate, 18 means NONE of them could be Libitina. Aaaand, when Monika talks about growing the club before they graduate,means the girls are right at home on the third level.

I saw Just Monika in another thread this morning, tried to send her that picture Dan leaked, her holding the poem (that she sings). Anyway, Steam maybe but she said the link didn't work but thanked me for the kindness. Reminded me that our comment #28 was a long time ago. I am sure looking forward for your rendering order out of chaos. You'll need to do it from here, as well as the transcripts bc special Steamtxt doesn't copy.

We haven't had any hints or nudges except that one in another topic so maybe we're barking up the wrong tree. I'm even beginning to question the whole Third Eye thang.
Last edited by xae-chan; Dec 16, 2017 @ 4:43pm
xae-chan Dec 16, 2017 @ 4:31pm 
kwhero449

That's bc there are TWO "CAN YOU HEAR ME.txt"at different times and places, the amount of obfuscation in this game is wondrous.

More confirmation our VT villiain is wrong, see above, girls are 18.

Presidental power ... only Monika has the power to write files into the game.
kwhero Dec 16, 2017 @ 4:35pm 
Originally posted by xae-chan:
kwhero449

That's bc there are TWO "CAN YOU HEAR ME.txt"at different times and places, the amount of obfuscation in this game is wondrous.

More confirmation our VT villiain is wrong, see above, girls are 18.

Presidental power ... only Monika has the power to write files into the game.
I dunno about that. Sayori did manage to delete all of the character files on her own, so it seems like she has access to the game directory. And going off of Monika's dialogue, even with sentience, it takes time to learn how to do anything more complicated.
Kisaragi Yukano Dec 16, 2017 @ 4:37pm 
Originally posted by kwhero449:
I'm still trying to come up with another reason why the sentience goes to the current president of the literature club besides an entity possessing them. I'm not happy with that theory anymore because at the regular ending, Monika stopped Sayori, which shows that they could have the same power at the same time. That'd probably mean the position itself gives them the power permanently whether they're currently president or not, but why? It also seems out of character for Sayori to act that way unless you get the "true ending" where she's more herself again. So maybe that was "suppressing" the Third Eye?

I agree that being president DOESN'T make you sentient. But I've realized why Sayori knows everything, in the bad, normal and special endings (probably).

Monika, created to be self-aware right even before the game was created ( look at her Twitter) has the objective to keep the DDLC world together: Handle the other girls, live inside of the fake world ... All of this probably as a part of a experiment. She has no idea of your existence yet which is what causes all the game events

This explains why she has stories of the other girls that you don't know, for example when Yuri brought wine to the club once or about the debate club etc etc. If you delete her right away, the "manager" of the world dissapears and all the truth smacks Sayori in the face because she's the first character you meet. Probably the other girls also freaked out too, but you weren't even able to see them. She sees all the truth and decides to take the "easy" exit

In the normal ending, why does Sayori know that all is fake? Because she's the president? NO
Why then? Because she DIED because of Monika's influnce (but not because her Third Eye). Being dead it's what opened her eyes ( not literally) Probably when she was about to die she realized that she was killing herself because of Monika's influence, not because she actually wanted. That explains why she tried to unhang herself so desesperately. Also remember that Monika sees the ordeal. Sayori probably saw Monika on her last moments too and saw that there was something off , not only because of Monika's intentions to get you , but because Monika's true paper as a "manager" She saw (too late) what was happening or what had been happening all along. Then, when she "comes back to life" she remembered what Monika did to her and why and , obviosuly, she wanted to get you too because you probably are too precious. Someone to kill for... damn right? But Sayori has no python powers, how come the Void appears again? Like I said in a previous recent theory, it's a representation of her feelings. She feels at home with you, and since the DDLC world lacks a manager that can sustain it, anything is possible but Monika's still in the game. Why? You just deleted her emotions, not her... She is still in the game and what's even worse, she will probably be there forever ( or not?)
Monika deletes everything because she saw that the DDLC world will only bring them misery (including you) and sends you a final message on the song

In the good ending, just like before, Sayori saw Monika's plan and realized all. Additionally, she probably remembers you spending time with all the girls to make them happy ( or probably Monika told her so, who knows). She then thanks you for making them happy and asks you to come back another time. Why? She knew that the DDLC world , just like before, will only bring suffering so she accepts what Monika is about to do , delete everything, but this time she lets you see all the CG without deleting them afterwards. She deletes them all at the end. Also, she sings you the same song with the same message.

Really sad indeed... But, hey, what happens with Yuri? She also dies ! And what happens with Natsuki? She "dies" too!
Well, Natsuki is easy to explain: She gets possesed. She does and remembers what Monika wants. Monika probably just deletes everything from her mind since why would a slave want memories or free thoughs right?

Yuri's a bit trickier: Yuri does not die a "conventional" death like Sayori. Sayori just gets tricked and influenced. Yuri get's overpowered by Monika's Third Eye. There's a battle between supernatural powers! Yuri's stronger but Monika has more control so Monika at the end wins. Yuri's lose makes her forget everything or maybe just hazy memories remain. She can't remember all because that psychic fight. You must note that during the 2nd act she actually starts to notice everything, like Sayori, but she's too late and never attains sentience.

Her Third Eye is too much for her and never fully understands what's going on...


Kisaragi Yukano Dec 16, 2017 @ 5:03pm 
Originally posted by xae-chan:
By the time I hit "post" bloody Steam error ...

Hmmm, Dan has stipulated that all the girls are 18. Wowser USAns are snarking it's just a white lie blah. But apparently it is canon and part of the lore. It supports my idea all the girls share the same DNA, Those posters do also, even more, albeit looking slightly older.

At any rate, 18 means NONE of them could be Libitina. Aaaand, when Monika talks about growing the club before they graduate,means the girls are right at home on the third level.

I agree that all the girls probably share the same DNA ( too many evidences right?) but all of them being 18? Monika says that she didn't approve underage drinking...

But it's true... damn you Salvato, DAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN YOUUUUUUUU (he probably said that to avoid the black copters going to his home or something...)

1. If we consider that the girls are american the legal age to drink in america is 21
2. If we consider the girls japanese the legal age to drink in japan is 20

In both scenarios they're "underage" . We can accept that they're 18 ( :steamsalty:)
The MC then must be 18 too ( not suitable for children right?) but the third level being rare for him? Huh

Originally posted by xae-chan:
I saw Just Monika in another thread this morning, tried to send her that picture Dan leaked, her holding the poem (that she sings). Anyway, Steam maybe but she said the link didn't work but thanked me for the kindness. Reminded me that our comment #28 was a long time ago. I am sure looking forward for your rendering order out of chaos. You'll need to do it from here, as well as the transcripts bc special Steamtxt doesn't copy.

We haven't had any hints or nudges except that one in another topic so maybe we're barking up the wrong tree. I'm even beginning to question the whole Third Eye thang.

I think, in my humble opinion, that "Just Monika" is just a roleplayer. I mean, I don't think she actually knows anything "serious".
She was just teasing us or something. Anyway,I kinda miss her comments though... :P
And about the Third Eye... we pretty much have some consistency there. Future vision, etc etc but maybe you're right. What if we got carried away? But it feels like we have advanced so much...
Last edited by Kisaragi Yukano; Dec 16, 2017 @ 5:04pm
Richard02 Dec 16, 2017 @ 5:05pm 
Originally posted by Dearlaice Gortaigh:
Originally posted by xae-chan:
By the time I hit "post" bloody Steam error ...

Hmmm, Dan has stipulated that all the girls are 18. Wowser USAns are snarking it's just a white lie blah. But apparently it is canon and part of the lore. It supports my idea all the girls share the same DNA, Those posters do also, even more, albeit looking slightly older.

At any rate, 18 means NONE of them could be Libitina. Aaaand, when Monika talks about growing the club before they graduate,means the girls are right at home on the third level.

I agree that all the girls probably share the same DNA ( too many evidences right?) but all of them being 18? Monika says that she didn't approve underage drinking...

But it's true... damn you Salvato, DAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN YOUUUUUUUU (he probably said that to avoid the black copters going to his home or something...)

1. If we consider that the girls are american the legal age to drink in america is 21
2. If we consider the girls japanese the legal age to drink in japan is 20

In both scenarios they're "underage" . We can accept that they're 18 ( :steamsalty:)
The MC then must be 18 too ( not suitable for children right?) but the third level being rare for him? Huh

Originally posted by xae-chan:
I saw Just Monika in another thread this morning, tried to send her that picture Dan leaked, her holding the poem (that she sings). Anyway, Steam maybe but she said the link didn't work but thanked me for the kindness. Reminded me that our comment #28 was a long time ago. I am sure looking forward for your rendering order out of chaos. You'll need to do it from here, as well as the transcripts bc special Steamtxt doesn't copy.

We haven't had any hints or nudges except that one in another topic so maybe we're barking up the wrong tree. I'm even beginning to question the whole Third Eye thang.

I think, in my humble opinion, that "Just Monika" is just a roleplayer. I mean, I don't think she actually knows anything "serious".
She was just teasing us or something. Anyway,I kinda miss her comments though... :P
And about the Third Eye... we pretty much have some consistency there. Future vision, etc etc but maybe you're right. What if we got carried away? But it feels like we have advanced so much...
Most posters sold on the websites are fan-work.
They shouldn't really be considered canon.
If the girls had same DNA, they would have same eye colors.
Kisaragi Yukano Dec 16, 2017 @ 5:10pm 
Originally posted by Richard02:
Most posters sold on the websites are fan-work.
They shouldn't really be considered canon.
If the girls had same DNA, they would have same eye colors.

I agree that posters should not be taken as canon, but they have interesting references that might come in handy

Having the same DNA (or similar) doesn't mean that you have to have the same eye color. For example, Yuri's eyes are blue in real life.

Come on, who has purple eyes right?

The same DNA theory will be developed further in the future, don't worry
xae-chan Dec 16, 2017 @ 5:27pm 
A general might say "Advance to the rear" to save face. =:-) Srsly tho, I literally hadn't thought of pineal gland for years; I was reading parts of transcript muttering third eye third eye third ... pineal and went to find my friend Google. delving into the mysticism, it seemed like the third eye power was, yes, future vision but also a benign power, transcendant, with enhanced insight that could humble a person.

But then, any power can be put to evil uses.
xae-chan Dec 16, 2017 @ 6:33pm 
Before I forget, can someone not DG or me access this file? It's supposed to be a shared folder and contents but links in Steam, well ...

https://photos-4.dropbox.com/t/2/AACj2iv5Vr8L7V6PHP2bE95NZbEYJLnJlDsG0LZopfiIkg/12/416735995/jpeg/32x32/1/_/1/2/DS%20monika.jpg/EKCIt5oHGKkCIAIoAg/dYwfg7VtR8iAbUv_NSrLRiMH5RIKCL4vZQyP0-UScR4?size=1024x768&size_mode=3

I can get it but I'm the owner.
Kisaragi Yukano Dec 17, 2017 @ 8:48am 
Originally posted by xae-chan:
Before I forget, can someone not DG or me access this file? It's supposed to be a shared folder and contents but links in Steam, well ...

https://photos-4.dropbox.com/t/2/AACj2iv5Vr8L7V6PHP2bE95NZbEYJLnJlDsG0LZopfiIkg/12/416735995/jpeg/32x32/1/_/1/2/DS%20monika.jpg/EKCIt5oHGKkCIAIoAg/dYwfg7VtR8iAbUv_NSrLRiMH5RIKCL4vZQyP0-UScR4?size=1024x768&size_mode=3

I can get it but I'm the owner.

Nope, error 403, forbidden. If people wanted to get there they would have to sign in dropbox.
But the dropbox link that it's in the description works fine for everyone, I guess.

BTW I've added some more images. This time less "important" ones ( I couldn't stop myself sorry)
Kisaragi Yukano Dec 17, 2017 @ 11:53am 
Okay everyone, good news !

I've finally put some order in this chaos! :steamhappy:

In the description there's an index to find quickly any important information we might want !
If I've missed something, please let me know!

Also I will update the description as we progress
Gzillion Dec 17, 2017 @ 1:04pm 
just gonna lurk xd
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