BattleBit Remastered
Adding Faceit
Can you please explain why people are angry about the fact that the developers are going to add faceit? I don't understand the subject.
Автор сообщения: JustLulu:
Hey All,

Lulu from FACEIT here, I am VP of Product for Community Integrity and Labs, and among other things I help game developers that want to integrate with our products. You might have seen me on the Battlebit Discord or in other Steam Discussions.

I can read there are still some concerns around our Anticheat, how it works and what it does. And I get why some players are concerned, it is a new software you need to install to play your favorite game and therefore, you should all do your research.

With my comments below, I hope I can shed some light on what we do and don't do and how FACEIT Anticheat Lite is going to work.

First of all, we are developing a new product, called FACEIT Anticheat Lite, and as we develop it, we are working closely with the Battlebit Game Devs to collect feedback from all players on Steam, Discord etc.

1. FACEIT Anticheat Lite is going to support Linux. We are starting with Proton and SteamDeck, and we will then add other popular Linux builds. I will be sharing updates on progress in the Battlebit Discord.

2. FACEIT Anticheat lite gives the option to game developers to disable some system integrity checks and in particular, in battlebit we will have this configuration:
a) There will be no checks for secureboot, so nobody will need to enable it.
b) We won't be requiring to update your operating system.
c) You can run HyperV without any special requirements.

3. Both FACEIT Anticheat Lite and FACEIT Anticheat receive data only when a protected game is running. This means you need to have the user app running on the PC, otherwise the driver won't be sending anything to anywhere.

4. We don't collect keyboard strokes or anything that you might be typing. We don't know (or care) about your browsing history.

5. We have several internal controls in place who limit who can access the information, our code always gets reviewed and more. We also run external audits of our software, testing and pen testing.

6. All Personal Data that our anticheat processes is encrypted at transit and at rest, and we also apply CSLE encryption on each piece of information. This means that if someone manages somehow to hack into our databases, they will also need to find our encryption keys and this means accessing several places.

7. ESL Gaming Group has been acquired by Savvy Gaming which in turn is owned by PIF. PIF is the government investment fund from Saudi Arabia. Now, FACEIT Limited is based in the UK, and ESL Gaming is based in Germany. This means that at the ESL FACEIT Group, we have to comply with UK Privacy Laws, European Privacy Laws and the GDPR. Since the company operates globally, we also consider local regulations like the California Privacy Act and more. We process all of your data in compliance with these laws, and in accordance our privacy policy. Nothing is ever shared with PIF or the Saudi Govenment .

8. Our anticheat doesn't unistall or delete any software on any machine. It simply doesn't have that access. If we detect a forbidden driver, we give you an error and its up to players to decide what they want to do. If there were any such reports, it would be great if you can send them over for me to investigate.
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Автор сообщения: GamingWithSilvertail
Автор сообщения: Noeat
did you somehow misread "source?" like "please, tell me some fairytale.."?
im just asking for some source for your statement, or if that your statement is as always just some conspiracy BS.

just link your source and you dont even need tell more stories... ok?

you wasnt able to prove any of your conspiracy theories before.. then do it at least now...


Go google timeisbutawindow. He made a recent video on Faceit AC.
then it is fairytale of some stranger and not even yours.. ok..
im more interested about some documentation, something more than "trust me bro"
Отредактировано Noeat; 17 июл. 2023 г. в 17:08
Автор сообщения: Noeat
Автор сообщения: GamingWithSilvertail


Go google timeisbutawindow. He made a recent video on Faceit AC.
then it is fairytale of someo stranger and not even yours.. ok..
im more interested about some documentation, something more than "trust me bro"
This is fairy tail?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqjO0K5aGEM
Автор сообщения: GamingWithSilvertail
Автор сообщения: Noeat
then it is fairytale of someo stranger and not even yours.. ok..
im more interested about some documentation, something more than "trust me bro"
This is fairy tail?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqjO0K5aGEM
i believe.. and correct me if im wrong.. that it is not link on statistic that Faceit have more cheaters than VAC
Автор сообщения: GamingWithSilvertail
Wym?

Faceit is far from perfect.

It probally has more cheaters then VAC does. As faceit doesnt use VAC on CSGO.
then again, im interested to see source for your statement
Автор сообщения: Noeat
Автор сообщения: GamingWithSilvertail
This is fairy tail?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqjO0K5aGEM
i believe.. and correct me if im wrong.. that it is not link on statistic that Faceit have more cheaters than VAC
Автор сообщения: GamingWithSilvertail
Wym?

Faceit is far from perfect.

It probally has more cheaters then VAC does. As faceit doesnt use VAC on CSGO.
then again, im interested to see source for your statement
Nobody has accurate numbers.

But since faceit doesnt require vac, nor csgo 'prime', you can automaticaly expect more people to cheat on faceit then on csgo's prime match making.

And faceit has less players then offical MM.
Автор сообщения: GamingWithSilvertail
Автор сообщения: Noeat
i believe.. and correct me if im wrong.. that it is not link on statistic that Faceit have more cheaters than VAC

then again, im interested to see source for your statement
Nobody has accurate numbers.

But since faceit doesnt require vac, nor csgo 'prime', you can automaticaly expect more people to cheat on faceit then on csgo's prime match making.

And faceit has less players then offical MM.
ok, then if you DONT have anything to support it, then it is another your conspiracy theory what you arent able prove.
cool.. im fine with it.
Автор сообщения: Noeat
Автор сообщения: GamingWithSilvertail
Nobody has accurate numbers.

But since faceit doesnt require vac, nor csgo 'prime', you can automaticaly expect more people to cheat on faceit then on csgo's prime match making.

And faceit has less players then offical MM.
ok, then if you DONT have anything to support it, then it is another your conspiracy theory what you arent able prove.
cool.. im fine with it.

Its not thou, because I am comparing TWO situations that happened. Stop calling everything conspiracys.
Отредактировано GamingWithSilvertail; 17 июл. 2023 г. в 17:19
Автор сообщения: GamingWithSilvertail
Автор сообщения: Noeat
ok, then if you DONT have anything to support it, then it is another your conspiracy theory what you arent able prove.
cool.. im fine with it.

Its not thou, because I am comparing TWO situations that happened. Stop calling everything conspiracys.
it is nothing more than conspiracy.. you have no proof of it and all is only in your head..
Автор сообщения: Noeat
can you read it again?

"8. Our anticheat doesn't unistall or delete any software on any machine. It simply doesn't have that access."

vs yours

" the statement that it doesn't have access to the file-system, is not true. Its a basic requirement for any anti-cheat (e.g. to create and compare checksums)"

do you see that difference?
like seriously, if Faceit can work like Killbox utility, then i want to buy my own copy...

Yes Lulu was talking about uninstalling software or drivers. I'm talking about read/write operations on the file-system in general. You seem to have missed the point, that software - in general - are just files on your file-system. Uninstalling software means - in simple terms - deleting it. There is no such thing as a mandatory confirm dialog or anything, when you programmatically delete a file. That means that: Yes: Every program (that has the nescessary privileges) can act exactly as what you probably understand as a "killbox".

Do you see now, why there is no difference?
Отредактировано lephro; 17 июл. 2023 г. в 18:04
Автор сообщения: Noeat
Автор сообщения: GamingWithSilvertail

Its not thou, because I am comparing TWO situations that happened. Stop calling everything conspiracys.
it is nothing more than conspiracy.. you have no proof of it and all is only in your head..
But I provided you the prove.

The reddit threat is still up ya know.

Why are you high up about face it?

What if this person's cheating antics, was detected by VAC and thats why possible only cheated on Faceit? Faceit doesnt use VAC. Just saying.

This isnt hard to think about.

He had a 3000 euro inventory.

Guess what? He's currently cheating on an alt cause thats where his inventory is.
Автор сообщения: GamingWithSilvertail
Автор сообщения: Noeat
it is nothing more than conspiracy.. you have no proof of it and all is only in your head..
But I provided you the prove.

The reddit threat is still up ya know.

Why are you high up about face it?

What if this person's cheating antics, was detected by VAC and thats why possible only cheated on Faceit? Faceit doesnt use VAC. Just saying.

This isnt hard to think about.

He had a 3000 euro inventory.

Guess what? He's currently cheating on an alt cause thats where his inventory is.

People are high about faceit cause its currently the best anti-cheat software for shooters that you can buy for money. Its faaaaaar better than VAC.

All that VAC does is scan for known checksums -> Flag the user -> Once the ban hammer swings all flagged users get banned. If the checksum is unknown to VAC than VAC wont do ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, no matter how hard he aimlocks through walls and whatnot. VAC is very very simple.

FaceIt AC does more and acts and monitors (simply speaking) on a lower level, which is why people (that don't understand ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥) call it more intrusive.

Why do you think FaceIt even came up with an own Anti-Cheat software in the first place?
Maybe... ... because VAC is ♥♥♥♥?

However... you either didn't watch the video you've posted or didn't understood it.
The guy is probably cheating. Ok.
The point is, that the guy in the video was playing MATCHMAKING and not FaceIt.
He was literally cheating, while beeing monitored by VAC.
The FaceIt team declined to ban him, because the evidence shown was from MATCHMAKING. There is was no evidence of him cheating on FaceIt. FaceIt would have detected his cheat (aim ware). VAC doesnt. But FaceIt does not care what you do in Matchmaking, cause it got nothing to do with it - its actually a third-party alternative to CS matchmaking. Therefore no FaceIt ban (at least for cheating), as stated by the FaceIt employee in the reddit thread.
VAC is responsible for banning cheaters in matchmaking.
None of his accounts got banned by VAC as of now (as far as I can tell).

So whats exactly your point here? Because if anything than you just made a point against VAC.
Отредактировано lephro; 17 июл. 2023 г. в 18:53
Автор сообщения: lephro
Автор сообщения: Noeat
can you read it again?

"8. Our anticheat doesn't unistall or delete any software on any machine. It simply doesn't have that access."

vs yours

" the statement that it doesn't have access to the file-system, is not true. Its a basic requirement for any anti-cheat (e.g. to create and compare checksums)"

do you see that difference?
like seriously, if Faceit can work like Killbox utility, then i want to buy my own copy...

Yes Lulu was talking about uninstalling software or drivers. I'm talking about read/write operations on the file-system in general. You seem to have missed the point, that software - in general - are just files on your file-system. Uninstalling software means - in simple terms - deleting it. There is no such thing as a mandatory confirm dialog or anything, when you programmatically delete a file. That means that: Yes: Every program (that has the nescessary privileges) can act exactly as what you probably understand as a "killbox".

Do you see now, why there is no difference?
no, i dont see that there is no difference between uninstalling or deleting some software on any machine / create temp file and then remove that temp file

can you elaborate how it is the same?


btw: killbox is name of specific utility what is able delete anything from PC, lot of times used for dealing with viruses or for laboratory tests and so. it needs admin rights and you need actually use it as tool, its not able to do anything without you. my point is that it is very specific software (it worked for Win XP) and you need even turn off antivir, before you use it...

but it is really coded in specific way to allow you deal with files on your PC as you want.
you claim, that the same is Faceit able to do ... if you are right, then i want my own copy, because i never saw some universal app what will allow me delete even kernel under running system and work for any OS.

im afraid, that you just have no idea what are you talking about and i will love some documentation what make you believe that your statement is true.
because afaik, this is not how any AC work... and i will be happy to see some proof that Faceit works like that.

thank you

edit: maybe we just dont understand each other, or i dont know..
but i really see difference between make temp file / uninstall some random software without any announcement and without any rights
im not sure if it is clear enough...

there is difference between give program right to use hdd for his file and operate with his files and between give him some superiror rights to do anything to your PC.
Отредактировано Noeat; 17 июл. 2023 г. в 21:15
Автор сообщения: GamingWithSilvertail
Автор сообщения: Noeat
it is nothing more than conspiracy.. you have no proof of it and all is only in your head..
But I provided you the prove.

The reddit threat is still up ya know.

Why are you high up about face it?

What if this person's cheating antics, was detected by VAC and thats why possible only cheated on Faceit? Faceit doesnt use VAC. Just saying.

This isnt hard to think about.

He had a 3000 euro inventory.

Guess what? He's currently cheating on an alt cause thats where his inventory is.
dude.. i wanna documentation, heuristic, something real.. not fairytales on reddit or youtube what arent even related to your claims... you still didnt show anything but "trust me bro" :D
you understand that you need show something real, right?

Автор сообщения: GamingWithSilvertail
Wym?

Faceit is far from perfect.

It probally has more cheaters then VAC does. As faceit doesnt use VAC on CSGO.
then again, im interested to see source for your statement
Отредактировано Noeat; 17 июл. 2023 г. в 21:16
Автор сообщения: lephro
However... you either didn't watch the video you've posted or didn't understood it.
The guy is probably cheating. Ok.
The point is, that the guy in the video was playing MATCHMAKING and not FaceIt.
He was literally cheating, while beeing monitored by VAC.
The FaceIt team declined to ban him, because the evidence shown was from MATCHMAKING. There is was no evidence of him cheating on FaceIt. FaceIt would have detected his cheat (aim ware). VAC doesnt. But FaceIt does not care what you do in Matchmaking, cause it got nothing to do with it - its actually a third-party alternative to CS matchmaking. Therefore no FaceIt ban (at least for cheating), as stated by the FaceIt employee in the reddit thread.
VAC is responsible for banning cheaters in matchmaking.
None of his accounts got banned by VAC as of now (as far as I can tell).

So whats exactly your point here? Because if anything than you just made a point against VAC.

The pitch of the video: "Faceit Refused To Ban a Cheating Rank 10 with $3000 Inventory!"
The pitch of the thread: "This player who is level 10 on Faceit is actively cheating with an undetectable aim ware."
The reality of the video: "Faceit refuses to ban someone (oh, they did ban them, just not for "cheating") based on evidence not even gathered from their own platform"
The reality of the thread: "They can't be possibly using different cheats on different accounts, so it must be this ♥♥♥♥♥♥ pixelbot that's going undetected on their main account and the only reason it's not banned for the same thing is because faceit are cowards"

I don't really understand why people have to make up these extra threads, there is more than enough evidence there that person is cheating, why does it have to become about whether faceit will then ban them too? It has nothing to do with faceit anticheat. At all.

At least find a match that was done ON FACEIT

I will be honest I am very disappointed at how difficulty it seems to be for anyone to actually bring evidence against faceit because there is no way it should be this hard.
Отредактировано Felicity; 17 июл. 2023 г. в 21:56
Автор сообщения: Noeat
Автор сообщения: GamingWithSilvertail
But I provided you the prove.

The reddit threat is still up ya know.

Why are you high up about face it?

What if this person's cheating antics, was detected by VAC and thats why possible only cheated on Faceit? Faceit doesnt use VAC. Just saying.

This isnt hard to think about.

He had a 3000 euro inventory.

Guess what? He's currently cheating on an alt cause thats where his inventory is.
dude.. i wanna documentation, heuristic, something real.. not fairytales on reddit or youtube what arent even related to your claims... you still didnt show anything but "trust me bro" :D
you understand that you need show something real, right?

Автор сообщения: GamingWithSilvertail
Wym?

Faceit is far from perfect.

It probally has more cheaters then VAC does. As faceit doesnt use VAC on CSGO.
then again, im interested to see source for your statement

So you're telling that video is fake?

Lmao Okay troll...

Maybe learn to actually discuss thinks in stead trying to use a 'stop word' because you're traumatised over other conspiracy theorists.

Автор сообщения: lephro
Автор сообщения: GamingWithSilvertail
But I provided you the prove.

The reddit threat is still up ya know.

Why are you high up about face it?

What if this person's cheating antics, was detected by VAC and thats why possible only cheated on Faceit? Faceit doesnt use VAC. Just saying.

This isnt hard to think about.

He had a 3000 euro inventory.

Guess what? He's currently cheating on an alt cause thats where his inventory is.

People are high about faceit cause its currently the best anti-cheat software for shooters that you can buy for money. Its faaaaaar better than VAC.

All that VAC does is scan for known checksums -> Flag the user -> Once the ban hammer swings all flagged users get banned. If the checksum is unknown to VAC than VAC wont do ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, no matter how hard he aimlocks through walls and whatnot. VAC is very very simple.

FaceIt AC does more and acts and monitors (simply speaking) on a lower level, which is why people (that don't understand ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥) call it more intrusive.

Why do you think FaceIt even came up with an own Anti-Cheat software in the first place?
Maybe... ... because VAC is ♥♥♥♥?

However... you either didn't watch the video you've posted or didn't understood it.
The guy is probably cheating. Ok.
The point is, that the guy in the video was playing MATCHMAKING and not FaceIt.
He was literally cheating, while beeing monitored by VAC.
The FaceIt team declined to ban him, because the evidence shown was from MATCHMAKING. There is was no evidence of him cheating on FaceIt. FaceIt would have detected his cheat (aim ware). VAC doesnt. But FaceIt does not care what you do in Matchmaking, cause it got nothing to do with it - its actually a third-party alternative to CS matchmaking. Therefore no FaceIt ban (at least for cheating), as stated by the FaceIt employee in the reddit thread.
VAC is responsible for banning cheaters in matchmaking.
None of his accounts got banned by VAC as of now (as far as I can tell).

So whats exactly your point here? Because if anything than you just made a point against VAC.
Liar. The guy isnt probally cheating. The guy litterally is cheating on faceit. Faceit has less players then CSGO MM.

You clearly didnt read the reddit threat,, cause the guy cheated in Faceit and the excuse that this faceit rep posted was that it was on CSGO MM. But later that was overturned if you read down comments. However, He also got banned for 'multiple accounts'. So go figure.

People call it more intrusive because it runs 24/7 and takes screenshots of the desktop.
Отредактировано GamingWithSilvertail; 18 июл. 2023 г. в 1:15
Автор сообщения: GamingWithSilvertail
Автор сообщения: Noeat
dude.. i wanna documentation, heuristic, something real.. not fairytales on reddit or youtube what arent even related to your claims... you still didnt show anything but "trust me bro" :D
you understand that you need show something real, right?


then again, im interested to see source for your statement

So you're telling that video is fake?

Lmao Okay troll...

Maybe learn to actually discuss thinks in stead trying to use a 'stop word' because you're traumatised over other conspiracy theorists.
no, that video is about VAC being bad and is not about your claim that Faceit have more cheaters than VAC

in that video author LITERALLY say that player was NOT playing on Faceit :D
you should probably watch it... because then you even realize that it dont prove your point that Faceit have more cheaters than VAC
Отредактировано Noeat; 18 июл. 2023 г. в 1:16
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