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eqalidan May 21, 2013 @ 4:40am
did the high end ever get fixed?
i know at one point the devs said it was screwed and there was nothing they were going to do about it, and that modders took up the reings and were makeing alot of progress, its been a long time sense i played the game or kept up with it...

did a mod fixing the highend ever happen, or did the devs do something beyond makeing the high end even higher, breaking the prior high end?
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Road May 21, 2013 @ 7:02am 
okie so either your really really high or really really vague.

and im thinking both.
what was high end when you left? what was broken when you left?

the game has a major lack of control on hackers in ranked thats about the only thing that is really a problem.
eqalidan May 21, 2013 @ 8:27am 
misty + is high end,
the problem was that each sucessive dlc from shards broke the random ness a bit.
when it was just misty, mythical gear was great, i have some that i still use even after the last piece of dlc came out because you cant fid drops better
once the desert came out trans was the best, but the moment that the water one came out, trans quality took a significant drop
same with the air level, the moment that came up surpreeme took a hit.
i stopped playing around the time the user made level made it in game, because i didnt like that the "fix" they had for how rare and bad content was, was to play that to the end and hope for the game to give you gear, which was better than what you could get most of the time from drops.

the devs know that the range is broke, and they also said that they werent going to fix it because there is no way to do it witout a complete rework

some of the players decided to say chalange accepted to that, and from what i remember were well over half way to fixing rh range. last i was keeping up though that was several months ago.

did thedevs ever fis the problem or did the modders ever release their patch?
Saladressing May 21, 2013 @ 12:14pm 
The drops are still hard to find, If that is what you are asking. Certain maps have better odds, but they are still very low. I dont think trans has taken a drop at all. I still personally think trans is the best odds in finding good gear. Supreme seems to be impossible to find for myself.
Road May 21, 2013 @ 12:35pm 
so "drop rates" is what im seeing they always where rare because they want people to keep playing their game. no one plays if they finish the game easily. but what your refering to is basicly the "time" gap between the DLC. misty was out solo for a very long time. morogo came out in a whole series of super large 6 player maps and just about everyone hated it the lag was crap. thats why you see aquanos and sky city fuctionality is so high and the maps are similar in size "tad" smaller than misty "WAY" smaller than morogo.

misty < december 2011 <--- mythical only dropped was out a decent time easily the golden time of the game
moro < march 2012 3month gap <---- trans was the new armor was rare but everyone hated the maps and many people quite.
aquanos < apr 1month later (see how much people hated morogo) <---- supreme was used to entice people back trans drop rates lowered aquanos was one of the favorite map packs to date.
sky < jul 2012 3 months (normal date for a decent map update.) <---- ev released , ultimates released trans drop rates again lowered. laggy map at release and boss was aggervating but still fun.
Last edited by Road; May 21, 2013 @ 12:41pm
Softspokenman May 21, 2013 @ 12:57pm 
no nothing is fixed hacked gear is just more excepted and nobody seems to care any more as long as it is with in possible limits so you will see allot more 7000 stat players
eqalidan May 21, 2013 @ 1:16pm 
drop rates arent a problem, i have gooten a few ultimates and surpremes, and once you get to about wave 25 of misty trans drops every single round.

my problem is the range.

i have mythical gear from before anything but misty was out, and its easily better than half the surpreme pieces and one of the untimate pieces i have.

i can run misty from wave 1-30 with no problem whatsoever,
in misty before any of the other dlc, a mythical piece with all tower stats over 200 wanst rare, past wave 18, now, i have made it to wave 30 where the only piece of worth while gear was one where all the stats were 150~

with each subsequent dlc, range broke more and more, now its rare to find trans gear that is better than misty myth pre other dlc. even surpremes are hard to find better than that misty gear, and the ultimates i found just barely beat that gear... keep in mind this is myths i picked up off the ground myself.

so i take it, at the very least, the devs never fixed the range problem.
did the moddes ever release what they did?
Vingdoloras May 21, 2013 @ 3:12pm 
Having to sit through boring hours (and not just one or two) of endless farming to hope to get one or two usable pieces and maybe advance to another map after tens (or maybe even hundreds) of attempts on one map... Sounds like a problem to me
Yup it's still a drag to farm for armor. There are some map rewards for weapons that can get you a boost though, but you have to farm those as well since it's still highly random and more towards the low end versions of them.
R2DSTU May 21, 2013 @ 11:41pm 
Does anyone have 100% in terms of achievements?
Softspokenman May 21, 2013 @ 11:53pm 
you cant right now their are 4 that are part of a dlc that has not been released yet but I have 99 out of the 100 you can have
Road May 22, 2013 @ 12:14am 
i am 100% current game not counting the inactive achievments.
eqalidan May 22, 2013 @ 1:48am 
here i decided to do a bit of digging again... my old bookmarks were useless because the forum shanged but here


that more or less states the problems that i had with the game at the time i left. keep in mind i have over 385 hours in the game, that threads starting post is EXACTLY what i mean when i say range is completely facked at the high end. the only way to have gotten good gear was to have been at and played the high end of the game every single release, as each subsequent dlc and change to the items killed range more and more, and its something that is confirmed by the devs as a real issue they tried to make work arounds for.

after 30+ nmhcmm misty runs, all of which i made it to compleation, the best gear did come from lower waves, the gear was also more or less broken if it was trans, i got lucky with finding 2 builder supreems that were worth wearing (they replaced bad myth pieces) and 2 ultimates which are almost compeltely worthless

also here


that is the page for the people attempting to fix range... from what i was able to gather before they had most of the problems sorted out, just never released anything

i would love to know what happened to this.
TheCurmudgeons May 22, 2013 @ 6:51am 
If you ask me - item level has dropped - the last two times doing Kings game NMHC - got two Godly Mauls and 2 Mythical Candelabras - one with no upgrades. Also have done Skycity Survival to end NMHC a dozen times - found useless Boxing supreme gloves - and low end trans armour - and some semi-okay monks weapons - usually with more negatives than positive stats. If you get lucky maybe someone will drop by your tavern and give you a set of hacked gear.
eqalidan May 22, 2013 @ 7:16am 
so should i take it the problem is the same now... fantastic.
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