Secret Doctrine

Secret Doctrine

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Mellow_Online1 Jun 4, 2017 @ 11:15am
Sentinels of the Store (#SOS)
At first glance this may not be anything special, that is until you look at some things regarding what's going on behind the scenes of this game.

This game has it's own {LINK REMOVED} (here's an archive[archive.is] in case changes are made later on) and on this website it lists an individual called "Gennady Guryanov" as the game's developer. Gennady Guryanov is actually someone that has been banned by Valve from doing any business in their service, as he had 3 different games on Steam, all of which were taken down by Valve. For example, here is an announcement posted by Valve stating they've removed the game "Zi" from the store, due to Gennady Guryanov controlling multiple Steam accounts to post fake positive reviews for the game, and proof of Gennady Guryanov being the developer of this title can be found on SteamDB.[steamdb.info]

The developer in question has responded to comments mentioning this by threatening to sue them. (Archive[archive.is] in case of deletion)

Guryanov, you may not agree with Valve's decision but you have to respect it, because this is petulant behavior, and don't you think threatening to sue people is just going to get Valve's eyes on you quicker?

Also, The dev is banning people for bringing up some stuff regarding the Russian pricing of the game and calling it ethinc hatred

Additionally, it's best not to make your game come off as tacky looking by simply mirroring some images you found on Google image search.[www.google.be]

#SOS
Last edited by Mellow_Online1; Jun 4, 2017 @ 2:17pm
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Be careful, they are threatening people into silence. I brought up the same thing although not as brilliantly as you have here. Was threatened with a slander lawsuit for even exposing it. Im really hoping to see putin when i serve my time in the gulags there. I hope to go hunting and horseback riding without shirts together. Id do all that rather than ever play this game.
Mellow_Online1 Jun 4, 2017 @ 11:30am 
Originally posted by ӇƛƝƝƖƁƛԼ:
Be careful, they are threatening people into silence. I brought up the same thing although not as brilliantly as you have here. Was threatened with a slander lawsuit for even exposing it. Im really hoping to see putin when i serve my time in the gulags there. I hope to go hunting and horseback riding without shirts together. Id do all that rather than ever play this game.

Fully aware of what's been said, already had a bloke in Arizona stick my name to a suit and been threatend a few other times by other developers, and I know how it works out.

They lose

Also, actions speak louder than words in my opinion. I'm not promoting the guy to pursue anything, but words are just that.
Last edited by Mellow_Online1; Jun 4, 2017 @ 11:32am
elenaschukina16  [developer] Jun 4, 2017 @ 11:31am 
Hey, you have mixed up something. Have you any good words in your life? You should remember it, and you will see big beautiful world!
Mellow_Online1 Jun 4, 2017 @ 11:33am 
Originally posted by elenaschukina16:
Hey, you have mixed up something. Have you any good words in your life? You should remember it, and you will see big beautiful world!

Maybe come to a realisation that Valve have cut business ties with you means they don't want to do business with you on their client, once you realise that, then come tell me if I have "good words in my life."

Also, if I'm wrong, may want to bring some form of evidence next time, instead of just stating I'm wrong because I'm wrong.
Last edited by Mellow_Online1; Jun 4, 2017 @ 11:38am
Red Jun 4, 2017 @ 11:48am 
Originally posted by elenaschukina16:
Hey, you have mixed up something. Have you any good words in your life? You should remember it, and you will see big beautiful world!

I'm gonna print this on a Bart T-Shirt because it's comedy gold Engrish.
Mellow_Online1 Jun 4, 2017 @ 11:58am 
Also, just so we're clear, just cause a user brings up the Russian pricing of the game, doesn't automatically make him spreading ethnic hatred https://twitter.com/MellowOnline1/status/871438941815271424
Mellow_Online1 Jun 4, 2017 @ 2:16pm 
Also, best not to make your game come off as tacky looking by simply mirroring some images you found on Google image search.[www.google.be]
bman001001 Jun 4, 2017 @ 4:26pm 
Originally posted by elenaschukina16:
Hey, you have mixed up something. Have you any good words in your life? You should remember it, and you will see big beautiful world!
your invalid gtfo and if you ban me you will only end up failing hardcore
Mellow_Online1 Jun 6, 2017 @ 11:55am 
Originally posted by elenaschukina16:
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Elena Schukina.

Unsure what you're linking to. Also,so much for our "BlackPR" boosting your game, boosted it so much it got Valve's attention to kick it off the store.
l'Original Jun 6, 2017 @ 12:50pm 
Originally posted by Mellow_Online1:
Originally posted by elenaschukina16:
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Elena Schukina.

Unsure what you're linking to. Also,so much for our "BlackPR" boosting your game, boosted it so much it got Valve's attention to kick it off the store.

So much for the whole card farming bit that might have actually spurred on any sales.
Apparently it is too difficult to even Digital Homicide for some...

Not sure why anyone not in full self-destruct mode would want to put their name out as being associated with that act, assuming that "Elena Schukina" is a real person and not yet another alias of the developer themselves.

A bit of a side note but seems related:
Just put "VR" somewhere around a title and it gets shoveled through the system without any checks? CosmoLut/Big City War/Shoot Paint - went from a VR title in Greenlight and approved to an asset flip to a pirated mobile game: http://store.steampowered.com/app/600450/

Check out the SteamDB of that critter: https://steamdb.info/app/600450/info/

Not the same developer, but shows that there are huge publishing holes in Valve's system that need to be patched up from a variety of abuse.

The whole repeat go at things with developers Valve supposedly have ceased to do business with not too long ago represents a new low point. :steamsad:
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