Purpose of kinetic blade

[forever]

What is the point of kinetic blade? Can you add modifiers like power attack to it? Can you attach spells to it with magus?

[bkgamingacc]

You cant add modifiers or magus spells to it.
It is another way to deliver your blasts .
It doesnt provoke attack of oppurtunities unlike other blast attacks and it can attack more then once if you have enough BAB.

[Morgian]

Power attack should work, though.

[forever]

Originally posted by bkgamingacc:

You cant add modifiers or magus spells to it.
It is another way to deliver your blasts .
It doesnt provoke attack of oppurtunities unlike other blast attacks and it can attack more then once if you have enough BAB.

annoying that the companion comes with this feat if she is built for more range.

[markelphoenix]

Yeah, main advantage is you will get multiple attacks per a round.

If you play a Vanilla Kineticist, you'll notice long charge up times if you want to modify a blast to have all the different substances + forms+ meta-benefits without burn cost. So, become really slow, one shot every round to round and a half, that could hit realllly big if you do it right.

Where as the Knight, gets Kinetic Blade by default with 0 Burn cost. He can wear heavy armor, gather power through a shield, and basically blast multiple times per full attack round.

[bkgamingacc]

Originally posted by Morgian:

Power attack should work, though.

Should not. No vital strike either. It is just a form infusion. It doesnt even get attack of opportunities.

[markelphoenix]

Originally posted by forever:

Originally posted by bkgamingacc:

You cant add modifiers or magus spells to it.
It is another way to deliver your blasts .
It doesnt provoke attack of oppurtunities unlike other blast attacks and it can attack more then once if you have enough BAB.

annoying that the companion comes with this feat if she is built for more range.

If your companion gets dragged into melee, you'll be very happy to have the ability to toggle it on and not get destroyed by Attacks of Opportunity

[forever]

Originally posted by markelphoenix:

Originally posted by forever:

annoying that the companion comes with this feat if she is built for more range.

If your companion gets dragged into melee, you'll be very happy to have the ability to toggle it on and not get destroyed by Attacks of Opportunity

good point

[Morgian]

@bkgamingacc
It should work, because the form specifically says that you form a weapon, minus it's special features (like trip). I suppose it has no effect, because it also says you don't get your STR modifier to damage with it. Makes me wonder, if piranha strike would have it's effect?

[forever]

Originally posted by Morgian:

@bkgamingacc
It should work, because the form specifically says that you form a weapon, minus it's special features (like trip). I suppose it has no effect, because it also says you don't get your STR modifier to damage with it. Makes me wonder, if piranha strike would have it's effect?

Does the kinetic blade count as a standard action or attack action?

[bkgamingacc]

@Morgian
As far as i know you can not use any modifier if you are attacking with a melee touch attack ( Energy kinetic blade ).
For physical kinetic blade, power attack and piranha should work, but doesnt ( No surprise :) )
And Deadly Aim should work for physical ranged blasts.

@Forever
You can use this form infusion once as part of an attack action, a charge action, or a full-attack action in order to make melee attacks with your kinetic blade. Since it’s part of another action (and isn’t an action itself), using this wild talent doesn’t provoke any additional attacks of opportunity