Why does my main character keep winding up Fatigued?

[BlackDragon]

This has been bugging me for a bit. My main is a Sorcerer, so it's not like he's ever using Rage or doing anything physically strenuous... and yet, he keeps turning up Fatigued (Permanent) for no apparent reason, even though we JUST rested and the rest of the party's still doing just fine. Is it just because of his unspectacular Con? Otherwise, what could possibly be causing it? It's rather annoying, since the penalties impact his ability to hit with both Touch and Ranged spells...

[Pink Eye]

What chapter are you on? You might need to go to a certain location if you're on chapter one. Otherwise, care to share your stats? And also what map you are currently on, and what enemies you have been facing.

[Dixon Sider]

Are you experiencing nightmares? I have a hard time sleeping because of nightmares sometimes

[BlackDragon]

Chapter 1, still just getting started, currently exploring the Sycamore, fighting Kobolds and various creepie-crawlies and wild beasts. Stats are... basically balanced, not minmaxed, Sorcerer. Maxed Char, middling Dex and Int (stilly, I know, but I wanted more Skill Points) and the rest at 10-11.

Hmm... certain location... Shrike River, maybe? >_> I've been getting those weird 'dream sequences' when I rest sometimes, preventing me from shedding Fatigue. But... is that also causing me to rapidly become Fatigued when I DO manage to get a decent night's rest? >_> Geez. Okay, guess that particular side-quest gets prioritization, though I hope there's nothing waiting there that my unspectacular Level 3 party can't handle.

[Pink Eye]

Originally posted by BlackDragon:

Chapter 1, still just getting started, currently exploring the Sycamore, fighting Kobolds and various creepie-crawlies and wild beasts. Stats are... basically balanced, not minmaxed, Sorcerer. Maxed Char, middling Dex and Int (stilly, I know, but I wanted more Skill Points) and the rest at 10-11.

Hmm... certain location... Shrike River, maybe? >_> I've been getting those weird 'dream sequences' when I rest sometimes, preventing me from shedding Fatigue. But... is that also causing me to rapidly become Fatigued when I DO manage to get a decent night's rest? >_> Geez. Okay, guess that particular side-quest gets prioritization, though I hope there's nothing waiting there that my unspectacular Level 3 party can't handle.

Yup, that's the problem, you need to go to Shrike River. The moment you get the nightmare sequence, you have to rush to that place. Otherwise, you won't be able to fully rest, and will suffer from fatigue.

[BlackDragon]

Sheesh. I just figured it was, like, "Sure, I'll go look into that as soon as I'm done here..." Well, live and learn, I suppose. Hopefully, we'll be able to handle whatever happens there even though my character is, by now, in a state of permanent Exhaustion. >_>;

[BlackDragon]

Well, visiting Shrike River definitely helped... bah. So much time wasted - there wasn't even any combat or exploration or anything there, just a tiny area and a quick conversation. Really should've gone there earlier, detour or not...

[Kiap]

I'm really struggling hard to enjoy this game because of random stuff like this.

I would appreciate more hand holding as someone that doesn't play games like this, and someone who doesn't know 3.5e very well. I'm literally reading every tool-tip that comes up, but I have no idea what debuffs you're throwing at me or why sometimes.

The spider combat you're sent to at level 1 is insane too. Monsters that require AoE to hit (a tiny spider that is IMMUNE to a MACE. Please be for real, if you can kill a small bug with a shoe you can with a MACE)!? Perm debuffs until next rest because of combat? Insane to throw that at a lvl 1, especially one who is trying to figure out what to do in combat.

I wouldn't throw this at any level one party unless it was a hardcore campaign with experienced players. Is that what you're assuming I am? Is that the "Normal" combat difficulty? Being encumbered and unable to move and not knowing how to fix it because of the spider strength drain?

They also explain combat rules to you a little at a time, sometimes AFTER already having experienced something... This game looks so fun! But I can't enjoy it while I keep getting punished for just PLAYING THE GAME.

It really was just a tiny area with a quick conversation. I'm about done with this. This could have been an email, there's not even any lore reasons. Have him tell us in the dream, then AFTER we do the thing WE WERE GOING TO DO ANYWAYS, give us exhaustion.

I've McLost it.

[99Random]

Originally posted by Kiap:

I'm really struggling hard to enjoy this game because of random stuff like this.

I would appreciate more hand holding as someone that doesn't play games like this, and someone who doesn't know 3.5e very well. I'm literally reading every tool-tip that comes up, but I have no idea what debuffs you're throwing at me or why sometimes.

The spider combat you're sent to at level 1 is insane too. Monsters that require AoE to hit (a tiny spider that is IMMUNE to a MACE. Please be for real, if you can kill a small bug with a shoe you can with a MACE)!? Perm debuffs until next rest because of combat? Insane to throw that at a lvl 1, especially one who is trying to figure out what to do in combat.

I wouldn't throw this at any level one party unless it was a hardcore campaign with experienced players. Is that what you're assuming I am? Is that the "Normal" combat difficulty? Being encumbered and unable to move and not knowing how to fix it because of the spider strength drain?

They also explain combat rules to you a little at a time, sometimes AFTER already having experienced something... This game looks so fun! But I can't enjoy it while I keep getting punished for just PLAYING THE GAME.

It really was just a tiny area with a quick conversation. I'm about done with this. This could have been an email, there's not even any lore reasons. Have him tell us in the dream, then AFTER we do the thing WE WERE GOING TO DO ANYWAYS, give us exhaustion.

I've McLost it.

The game is not great at helping the player understand what to do, but the spiders are not really one of them (there are plenty though)

- You are given fire flasks
- there is a message about the spiders
- the spiders are AFTER the quest item so are intended as an optional extra fight

[SotiCoto]

I'm still puzzled by that whole Shrike River "nightmare" thingie, as I've never had that quest kick off on its own. Not once. On my first playthrough I found Shrike River after killing the Stag Lord.... just by chance.... and then the quest with "Nightmare" in the name started and immediately finished when I walked to the zombie guy. I wasn't entirely sure what the point was.
Second proper time (discounting early aborts) I went there early and spoke to the zombie guy, killed the Stag Lord, then went back again later when I remembered it existed (some time in Chapter 3) and handed the quest in.
I wouldn't even know what the "Nightmare" stuff was all about if people didn't keep talking about it like it was some sort of urgent issue that needs to be solved.

[SotiCoto]

Originally posted by Retronaut:

>>>SotiCoto

Like the idea in 'Kingmaker' there are secret areas to explore even if not readily apparent.

Such events adds more layers to the game.

This feels kinda like the opposite. Like most people are experiencing something I'm not... I mean if most people are getting it then it probably isn't secret. But I'm missing it precisely because I'm doing everything quickly and efficiently rather than taking my time. Probably the same reason I had that flubbed start where I missed out on Octavia and Regongar because I got out of the Narlmarches before I could trigger the Technic League encounter in Chapter 1... and forgot to go back to force it.