This game shud have been RTS than a turned based game

[Froz7y]

Im refundding this game. No camera panning control, the animations look cheap and the sound effects are horrible.

[Desmond]

There is no tactic in rts just a click fest on who clicks fastest to win

[Indal]

Originally posted by Ragsash:

There is no tactic in rts just a click fest on who clicks fastest to win

Say that to starcraft players and watch the whole world laugh

[elin_schmitz]

Originally posted by Midknight Battler:

Originally posted by hans_schmitz:

But no, you can't! People like you (and me) are the reason why the gaming industry is rolling backwards!

Oh... what did I just read? There ARE several RTS games published every year, some even with mechs? There IS a new simulation underway called MW5? They actually even developed something called VR which is now actually playable? Wow... MIGHT those who scream bloody murder because of ONE turn-based strategy game be a bit hysterical? xD

Thats actually not true, there is no new RTS with mechs released every year. The last good mech game was released was Dawn of War 2 and Supreme Commander 2.

Battletech would have made a really good RTS but its a missed opportunity.

Okay, just two quick games as I'm not the biggest RTS fan, but I know for sure that They Are Billions features mech-like units, and Iron Harvest will center its whole game around them... That's just 2017 and 2018. And my point was not that we wouldn't need more mech games - heck, give me one every week, and every third or so can be a Mech Commander-like RTS, I would buy them all! xD - it's just that no, just because TBS is a thing and this is a great Tabletop BTS conversion, we won't stop seeing RTS getting produced... So let's all calm down, and instead of complaining that game xyz is not the genre we prefer, allow those who it was produced for to enjoy THEIR game and play the games that were produced for US.

[Dorok]

Originally posted by Revener:

Hell no!!!!! Besides there are way too many RTS around anyway just play one of them.

They are so boring, just build the most unit first then zerg the opponent, ugh.... just stress.

There's also too many RTS in my point of view, but in reality it's more a dying genre.

Still Im' not surprised a RTS player complain a turn base game isn't RTS, it says the level of fans of RTS.

[Dorok]

Originally posted by Indal:

Originally posted by Ragsash:

There is no tactic in rts just a click fest on who clicks fastest to win

Say that to starcraft players and watch the whole world laugh

Certainly not the whole world, just watch any repetitive play session to be sure that most of the world will see a game with weak tactics level.

[Aranador]

Originally posted by Indal:

Originally posted by Ragsash:

There is no tactic in rts just a click fest on who clicks fastest to win

Say that to starcraft players and watch the whole world laugh

Actually what StarCraft players have is a strategy - a plan they've worked out ahead of time, and chosen to execute in their game. Everything is about executing that strategy with as much speed as possible. If the strategy starts to fail, then they switch strategies. They never really use tactics, unless their whole game has turned sideways, and they're loosing and are just looking for a way to jag out a come from behind win through something unexpected.

I can not execute that sort of gameplay, hence I dont play starcraft. If the OP wants Starcraft, well, it just so happens there is this game called starcraft. Meanwhile, I am glad that this game is NOT starcraft, and I enjoy this game a lot, even with the headshots, which I thought was rubbish even in tabletop original battletech. Good to see this game is so faithful to those rules.

[Dorok]

Originally posted by Aranador:

I am glad this is a turn based game. It is a great tactical game, and the world needs more tactical games.

If you don't stick to AAA games, or A games, there's in fact many releases, alas art of design tactical combats isn't well spread, skills tend be very low, often when it's not the low tactical value the problem, then it's the low diversity the problem.

[aevansjr35]

Originally posted by nilus:

You “shud” have paid more attention in your writing class

oh look the resident jerk. Everyone report this idiot.

[Aranador]

Originally posted by Dorok:

Originally posted by Aranador:

I am glad this is a turn based game. It is a great tactical game, and the world needs more tactical games.

If you don't stick to AAA games, or A games, there's in fact many releases, alas art of design tactical combats isn't well spread, skills tend be very low, often when it's not the low tactical value the problem, then it's the low diversity the problem.

I am looking forward to Phoenix Point for sure.

[FemmeDracula]

Originally posted by Ragsash:

There is no tactic in rts just a click fest on who clicks fastest to win

Clicking fast is definitely a thing, because higher APM means you're better at managing your units and ... er ... executing your tactics faster than your opponent can respond.

I dislike this zero sum approach to "this game vs. that game." BattleTech is turn-based and that's great. It's not because turn-based games are inherently superior to or better than real-time strategy games, and we don't have to denigrate RTS games to justify enjoying a TBS game. It's not an either/or dichotomy. Both can be good! Both are good! It's possible to love BattleTech and StarCraft at the same time.

[FemmeDracula]

Originally posted by Dorok:

Originally posted by Revener:

Hell no!!!!! Besides there are way too many RTS around anyway just play one of them.

They are so boring, just build the most unit first then zerg the opponent, ugh.... just stress.

There's also too many RTS in my point of view, but in reality it's more a dying genre.

Still Im' not surprised a RTS player complain a turn base game isn't RTS, it says the level of fans of RTS.

It really doesn't. I'm a fan of RTS, and I don't agree with the OP at all. It just says what one guy thinks, and that's all.

[FemmeDracula]

Originally posted by Aranador:

Originally posted by Indal:

Say that to starcraft players and watch the whole world laugh

Actually what StarCraft players have is a strategy - a plan they've worked out ahead of time, and chosen to execute in their game. Everything is about executing that strategy with as much speed as possible. If the strategy starts to fail, then they switch strategies. They never really use tactics, unless their whole game has turned sideways, and they're loosing and are just looking for a way to jag out a come from behind win through something unexpected.

I can not execute that sort of gameplay, hence I dont play starcraft. If the OP wants Starcraft, well, it just so happens there is this game called starcraft. Meanwhile, I am glad that this game is NOT starcraft, and I enjoy this game a lot, even with the headshots, which I thought was rubbish even in tabletop original battletech. Good to see this game is so faithful to those rules.

^^^^ This is a much better explanation + the clarification of strategy vs. tactics.

[Isha]

Originally posted by Midknight Battler:

Im refundding this game. No camera panning control, the animations look cheap and the sound effects are horrible.

If it was an RTS I might not have bought it. I never was a Command and Conquer fan.

[BLAME! 40K]

Originally posted by Porg Squadron:

Originally posted by BLAME! 40k:

Yeah , rts favors apm over strategy

Well not all RTS games are like that, but they are in the minority. Most are like C&C & Starcraft, and are as you say about spamming.

Interestingly tho, Battletech ai is mostly about spamming enemies now that you mention it.....

Apm is action per minute and not the wrong written word spam :)

[Knoxx212]

Originally posted by Midknight Battler:

Originally posted by archangelmc32:

I think the game is a perfect rendition of the original table top game. It seems to be delivering exactly what the game description said when I first read it. I have had no issues running the game and I like the animation scenes. This is probably one of my favorite games I have bought off Steam in a very long time.

Of course, it will probably not appeal to everyone. It requires a tactical frame of mind and patience. It is not a zerg swarming adreneline rush type of game. If you do not like games that require thinking ahead and planning your strategies (or thinking in general), such as chess, you probably will not like this game. Purchase and enjoy any of the vast majority of games from Steam that are repetitive, boring, and mindless but have lots of fast moving objects.

Why not just play the table top? Video game technology grants us to make games which before we could only imagine using table top. So much increase in the technology and we are taking more steps backward. One day do we have to imagine how a game is played? rather than the game being a simulation of our very own imagination in which we could not see with our very own eyes?

I dont see the reasoning behind this. If this is what gamers these days are content is, then so be it.

Many of us played the TT version 25 years ago. We graduated moved to different cities and no longer have 3-6 hours to kill to play one mission. With this game the computer does all the dice rolls and sets up the board and mission and provides a GM to run it.

This is why some of us would like to see coop in the game. It would be much easier to get old gaming groups together to play a mission or 2 even if they live on opposite coasts.