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No one knew Ooblets before it put on the mask
Just saying.
Look at Google Trends : Ooblets was largely ignored and unknown before this drama.

Imagine :
You're a couple of Indie devs and no one talks about your game.
You know announcing an EGS exclusive will make big boys talk big (Jim, I'm looking at you ;) ), even considering the statement above, and more so if you do it in a snarky and disrespectful way.
Once the fuse is lit, Internet and gaming community being what it is, just put some gasoline on it, allowing EGS to come out as a white knight.
There you have it: your distributor is happy about the occasion you gave them, you just made your game known (you know, bad publicity is always publicity).
And the best thing : Steam will have to handle all the community effervescence, so it will stay out of the "real" marketplace where you're selling the game for at least one year.

From my perspective, it's pretty much called a great win.
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yea short time win because bad popularity. im in the group because its so funny but do you think all those people who follow the drama will buy the game now?
i mean it is really a bad and very uninteresting game to begin with. some niche, some people might look for but, cmon, do you think anyone will be like "oh wow that seems interesting"

i mean i could not believe that this ♥♥♥♥ even gets to epic
Tell that to Phil Fisher.
Erebus Aug 6 @ 12:40pm 
Most people don't sit and search unfinished unreleased games constantly.
AD33L Aug 6 @ 12:52pm 
Yep, they got some huge publicity from their actions. Lets see if it translates in sales.
They are too pathetic to actually believe that they planned all this, compare this to e.g. Hatred, when they announced the game it was done specifically to stir up game "journalists" thus the huge "negative" press and many people bought the game just because they hated the media. But here they directly mocked and attacked their own audience (which already wasn't that big).
Now it will be the opposite as many will not buy specifically because they are on Epic (which not only has guaranteed sales but it is a perfect safe space storefront for snowflake developers) and are protected by media. Funny enough on "gaming" sites many uses say that they will buy the game because it is on epic and devs are defended by "journalists".
Zio Aug 6 @ 1:21pm 
Yes of course, literally nobody knew this game even existed prior to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ a bunch of whiney asshats and all this was just a plot to anger even more trve gamers and receive the backlash, it was all just a plot from the underground lizard people also Soros paid them for it because that's how the world works now sorry I don't make the rules

god you people are so obnoxious and I wish other people weren't this gullible to fall for all your bs, sadly most gamers obviously gamers are so dim they believe everything just because a lot of people get angry about something
Large range of answers there, always a pleasure.
I get why big games taking the EGS deal stir up the community, but a game like Ooblet not being that much known before the drama picked my curiosity.
Whatever people can think this was for, and whatever the results, the whole thing was sparked by the developers. I stand my ground on the game not being that known before the infamous blog post.
Seeing Google Trends I think this WILL definitely translate to sales. Like Zio said, no one gives a frak about the opinion of "whiney true gamers" when you take a peek at the big picture in gaming nowadays.
We all saw the footage and the game looks cute and fun, no denying that. It will appeal to some people (hell, I'm tempted to try it), those people not being the vocal minority expressing itself here, me included.
I'm also interested in knowing how many people following the game before changed their mind following what has gone on. Really.
Zio Aug 6 @ 2:05pm 
I can certainly tell you that in indie circles Ooblets was certainly one of the better known titles, you'd be baffled how many games there are that are quite something but never heard of because they have no PR or anything behind them (like Axium Verge for example had, no big PR firm but one PR guy who has like all the connections).

The thing is that indies still in 2019 are niche in general unless they hit a very specific spot or are talked about because the devs are some famous guys from the olden days. Like Mighty No9 and boy was that below expectations.

Besides, Ooblets was a thing before this incident, they were quite a looker on...I don't know, was it E3? There were in one of the indie featurettes and people loved it. But even then only those who were already open to indies and this kind of indie in particular.

The thing with anything happening re the EGS is that there's metric SHIP tons of people only waiting for even the slightest thing to complain about and that spreads like a wildfire. Most people complaining have never had anything to do with Ooblets or any intention of buying anything from them, they just want to stir trouble. Like all the patreon bs talk, the actual patrons are understanding, it's everyone outside who's going up the walls over this.
And I can certainly tell you, that nobody in the indie space wants any of this kind of attention.
They know this attention is not boosting sales (it's not driving them into the grounds either though) it's just a giant trash fire that nobody needs, nobody except the trolls fedding on trouble.

The whole thing is a bit different if we're looking at Sweeney, but the Ooblets devs? boy howdy...the question for the devs was either take the risk of drowning in Steams algorithm hell or being safe for a year with the Epic deal. People love to jump in to defend their favourite company for not being a charity when they really just do things for the effin money (hello CDPR), but indies are suddenly all sellouts because they dare to want to survive.
I could go on about all this but none of this will amount to anything cause the same types going far and beyond with this don't even care about anything. Or as one of their favourite bs mantras goes: facts don't care about your feelings
If people cared about facts, we wouldn't have to see all the fabrications, racism, antisemitism, pedophilia commentary and whatnot, people would look up how things really were and not just parrot angry youtuber #32521

the devs made mistakes, but none of them were anywhere near what entitled crybabies keep whining about, let alone justify the treatment they still receive.
Erebus Aug 6 @ 2:06pm 
Originally posted by Zio:
I can certainly tell you that in indie circles Ooblets was certainly one of the better known titles, you'd be baffled how many games there are that are quite something but never heard of because they have no PR or anything behind them (like Axium Verge for example had, no big PR firm but one PR guy who has like all the connections).
One of the more funded gaming projects on patreon, previously lined up with doublefine before MS bought them... Yeah that's pretty far from a total unknown.
Thanks for the clarifications guys, good talk.
Originally posted by AD33L:
Yep, they got some huge publicity from their actions. Lets see if it translates in sales.

It doesn't matter if it does, they'll break even thanks to epic. Is there a way to see how many copies actually sold to customers, or will the illusion of selling well always be there thanks to the deal??
I just put the game to my wishlist (2-3 years ago) and I never talked about it until now.
Zio Aug 7 @ 6:21am 
Originally posted by Necrobile:
Originally posted by AD33L:
Yep, they got some huge publicity from their actions. Lets see if it translates in sales.

It doesn't matter if it does, they'll break even thanks to epic. Is there a way to see how many copies actually sold to customers, or will the illusion of selling well always be there thanks to the deal??

That's not how this works, there's no ♥♥♥♥ing illusion of selling well. It's the contrary actually, the prospect of NOT selling is what's driving people to take exclusivity deals. It's basically a standard issue (timed) exclusivity deal. It happens all the time elsewhere, especially Sony is flaunting their cash all the time. Why do you think so many Square Enix or Konami titles and other stuff there but nowhere else? Because they pay for it to be there and nowhere else. The platform holder wants to get customers through this, the developers want financial stability. The platform holder pays the developer the money they would presumably have gotten on the other platform, and that's about it. Paid games given away for free work similarly. The platforms compensate devs for not selling them full priced. Steam does this, Sony and Microsoft do this, Epic does it.

If people actually kept track of this or cared, they would see how others who went to Epic fared. I have yet to hear anyone going down due to the move, but I also have yet to hear anyone whose sales skyrocketed thanks to it. It's more or less business as usual except that the EGS is just the rich kid ♥♥♥♥♥♥ that thinks it can do everything with money. But it's not like Valve is any better. We know Valve is putting up a ♥♥♥♥ show especially affecting indies, I doubt EGS will do better but we'll have to see about that.

If devs wouldn't have to fear going down here, they would NEVER resort to taking such deals, same elsewhere.
Kriss Aug 7 @ 6:35am 
Baboulinet, you are a man indeed good taste, Mozinor for life.
Originally posted by Kriss:
Baboulinet, you are a man indeed good taste, Mozinor for life.
MERCI MONSIEUR
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