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Pozhinateli Aug 24, 2017 @ 12:47pm
Is Steam version censored?
As topic say, is this version censored?

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Kyroliger Aug 26, 2017 @ 6:45am 
Originally posted by Zyrathus:
A bit extreme there huh? I doubt it will go further than what it already is. Which isn't much at all. If people actually play the game, there is no where you will be noticing any of this stuff during a match.

Funny enough, I only noticed the artwork was censored when this thread came about. I then looked at my game and korean's version and took another look at NA's version and was like "oh, they did change." Like it was so minimal, I had to put effort, after being aware, to notice the change.
Kyroliger Aug 26, 2017 @ 6:48am 
Originally posted by Zyrathus:
And removing an attack animation isn't censoring either.

I feel overall, this isn't really an issue, and there would be more pressing and more important things to discuss and whatnot.

Yeah I think removing the attack animation was due to either giving the rest of the ranged hyper 2 attack animations or take out the 1 ranged hyper that had two attack animations.

That's like a close combat hyper having 4 attack animations and the rest having 3. People would have a problem with this, naturally.
Last edited by Kyroliger; Aug 26, 2017 @ 6:50am
King Arthur Aug 26, 2017 @ 6:55am 
Originally posted by Tyel:
Is this game really censored? I really don't care for bewbs bouncing and showing, but I will never support a censored game, even for a small thing like this. If we begin accepting censorship, in no time they will start censoring anything people complain. "well, we have to take out the white people from the game, because you know, white supremacy", "there's no more men in this game because they were complaining about patriarchy". It's sounds absurd now, but it will slowly happen, for sure.
I can see something like that happening in the future to be honest.

What you say might seem ridiculous and extreme right now, but since people are getting more and more sensitive about skin, gender, diversity, sexuality...it's not hard to imagine such thing happening in the future.

We live in a crazy unpredictable world after all.
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Kyroliger Aug 26, 2017 @ 6:57am 
Originally posted by King Arthur:
Originally posted by Tyel:
Is this game really censored? I really don't care for bewbs bouncing and showing, but I will never support a censored game, even for a small thing like this. If we begin accepting censorship, in no time they will start censoring anything people complain. "well, we have to take out the white people from the game, because you know, white supremacy", "there's no more men in this game because they were complaining about patriarchy". It's sounds absurd now, but it will slowly happen, for sure.
I can see something like that happening in the future to be honest.

What you say might seem ridiculous and extreme right now, but since people are getting more and more sensitive about skin, gender, diversity "issues"...it's not hard to imagine such thing happening in the future.

We live in a crazy unpredictable world after all.

Here's to hoping the SJWs don't sink their claws on this game. Because if they do, oh boy.
NOSCOPENOPROBLEM Aug 26, 2017 @ 6:59am 
Originally posted by Kyroliger:
Originally posted by NOSCOPENOPROBLEM:
If you ask me, it's rather defeatist to act as though there's no helping censorship. That said, animations were removed from the game? I was given the impression that character art and models were made less revealing or smaller and that was the fullest extent of the censorship. It's getting a lot harder to really treat the degree of censorship as just being "minor" if this is true, especially when the goalpost of what "minor censorship" is can be shifted.

You can't take animation removing as censoring. If you think about it, every single ranged character only has a single animation when they do their basic attack. Blue Rose was the only only with 2, I wouldn't be surprised if the Korean version updated and took that animation out themselves (will look into that later), but my guess is that NA removed her second animation for her basic attack because they didn't see a point in every ranged character with 1 attack animation and 1 character with two basic attack animations. There was probably concerns about this somewhere and there was also probably a choice to give every ranged character 2 basic attack animations or just take out the 1 character with 2 basic attack animations, therefore being the result in NA's blue rose only having 1 basic attack animation

We can discuss all day and night wether artwork censoring is a big deal or not, but I was just making a point that I the in game models weren't affected. Breast sizes weren't reduced (which was heavily emphasized on by the group who disliked the censoring to begin with) jiggle physics are the same from korean's version as well. Only the artwork and 1 attack animation was altered.
There is nothing wrong with having an additional attack animation. The idea that there should be only one is a very arbitrary one. The same goes for the idea that there cannot be NEW characters who are more in line with what the GMs or North American Nexon staff wants so as to sate those who are are in support of censorship or less endowed characters. We also have staff admitting to changing content as well for reasons that amounted to censorship.

I apologize though for the assumption that the animation removal was also a part of the game's censorship, though it's not hard to come to that idea. On censorship, why do you treat censors as such a grand monolith that can't be stopped? You make it sound as though nothing short of supernatural intervention can prevent censorship from occuring.
NOSCOPENOPROBLEM Aug 26, 2017 @ 7:01am 
Originally posted by Kyroliger:
Originally posted by King Arthur:
I can see something like that happening in the future to be honest.

What you say might seem ridiculous and extreme right now, but since people are getting more and more sensitive about skin, gender, diversity "issues"...it's not hard to imagine such thing happening in the future.

We live in a crazy unpredictable world after all.

Here's to hoping the SJWs don't sink their claws on this game. Because if they do, oh boy.
SJWs are completely okay with changes no matter how grand or tiny, so long as they're listened to above the rest of the audience(If they're even a part of the audience), because they have no qualms with slippery slopes or simply knowing that companies hold them in higher regard compared to people who play or spend more money on entertainment and other products and services than they do.
Kyroliger Aug 26, 2017 @ 7:07am 
Originally posted by NOSCOPENOPROBLEM:
Originally posted by Kyroliger:

You can't take animation removing as censoring. If you think about it, every single ranged character only has a single animation when they do their basic attack. Blue Rose was the only only with 2, I wouldn't be surprised if the Korean version updated and took that animation out themselves (will look into that later), but my guess is that NA removed her second animation for her basic attack because they didn't see a point in every ranged character with 1 attack animation and 1 character with two basic attack animations. There was probably concerns about this somewhere and there was also probably a choice to give every ranged character 2 basic attack animations or just take out the 1 character with 2 basic attack animations, therefore being the result in NA's blue rose only having 1 basic attack animation

We can discuss all day and night wether artwork censoring is a big deal or not, but I was just making a point that I the in game models weren't affected. Breast sizes weren't reduced (which was heavily emphasized on by the group who disliked the censoring to begin with) jiggle physics are the same from korean's version as well. Only the artwork and 1 attack animation was altered.
There is nothing wrong with having an additional attack animation. The idea that there should be only one is a very arbitrary one. The same goes for the idea that there cannot be NEW characters who are more in line with what the GMs or North American Nexon staff wants so as to sate those who are are in support of censorship or less endowed characters. We also have staff admitting to changing content as well for reasons that amounted to censorship.

I apologize though for the assumption that the animation removal was also a part of the game's censorship, though it's not hard to come to that idea. On censorship, why do you treat censors as such a grand monolith that can't be stopped? You make it sound as though nothing short of supernatural intervention can prevent censorship from occuring.

Never once said it can't be stopped. I'm saying good luck to the people that want to stop something that's been happening, and will continue to happen, since before a lot of people were even born.
Kyroliger Aug 26, 2017 @ 7:08am 
Originally posted by NOSCOPENOPROBLEM:
Originally posted by Kyroliger:

Here's to hoping the SJWs don't sink their claws on this game. Because if they do, oh boy.
SJWs are completely okay with changes no matter how grand or tiny, so long as they're listened to above the rest of the audience(If they're even a part of the audience), because they have no qualms with slippery slopes or simply knowing that companies hold them in higher regard compared to people who play or spend more money on entertainment and other products and services than they do.

Sums up SJWs quite nicely.
Pozhinateli Aug 26, 2017 @ 11:51am 
Originally posted by Kyroliger:
Literally a few artwork was changed and one of Blue Rose's attack animation was removed, and that's still your opinion of blue rose's animation removal being less sexualized. That's it. Nothing else. If you look at my post with the pictures, I compared the korean version directly with my NA version zoomed in. The proof is there, wether you want to accept that or not is your problem.

This proof was good enough to make me buy the game and test myself. Thank you for do that. Esspecially in case where on youtube is possible to find gameplay from english version when this censorship exist.

I have acess now to both EU/NA and from friend KR acc. And it seems characters models are the same. But look at this:

EU/NA version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wm1aXOqonM

KR version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV0ropckqxw

Strange fact is rest of animations of Celine are the same, just in NA/EU version breast does not have physic during run animation, while on KR this animation is very slight (but also more natural).

Obviously our version is censored. But it does not make sense because it is not effect other animations. If big bouncing breasts offending someone, it still do. But current version definitly does not satisficy people like me who want have oryginal creation without any censorship ot edits. I completly do not understand purpose of this censorship.
Kyroliger Aug 26, 2017 @ 12:20pm 
Originally posted by Pozhinateli:
Originally posted by Kyroliger:
Literally a few artwork was changed and one of Blue Rose's attack animation was removed, and that's still your opinion of blue rose's animation removal being less sexualized. That's it. Nothing else. If you look at my post with the pictures, I compared the korean version directly with my NA version zoomed in. The proof is there, wether you want to accept that or not is your problem.

This proof was good enough to make me buy the game and test myself. Thank you for do that. Esspecially in case where on youtube is possible to find gameplay from english version when this censorship exist.

I have acess now to both EU/NA and from friend KR acc. And it seems characters models are the same. But look at this:

EU/NA version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wm1aXOqonM

KR version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV0ropckqxw

Strange fact is rest of animations of Celine are the same, just in NA/EU version breast does not have physic during run animation, while on KR this animation is very slight (but also more natural).

Obviously our version is censored. But it does not make sense because it is not effect other animations. If big bouncing breasts offending someone, it still do. But current version definitly does not satisficy people like me who want have oryginal creation without any censorship ot edits. I completly do not understand purpose of this censorship.

Yeah, I get what you're saying. Like if you're gunna censor something, go through with it all the way.

Thanks for the gameplay side by side comparison. For the record, I don't support censorship in any form, just like you guys. I can tolerate censorship to this degree because it's minimal imho. The reason I said what I said was because there was uncertainty in the air and I wanted to put it all to rest by showing people exactly what was censored and what wasn't.
Last edited by Kyroliger; Aug 26, 2017 @ 12:21pm
Arthurz Le Blur Aug 26, 2017 @ 2:07pm 
Lol this still going strong? You guys are making me wanna play this now just to see the small changes in person, too bad we broke over here fam.
TouchMe Aug 26, 2017 @ 2:59pm 
Originally posted by Kyroliger:

Yeah, I get what you're saying. Like if you're gunna censor something, go through with it all the way.

Thanks for the gameplay side by side comparison. For the record, I don't support censorship in any form, just like you guys. I can tolerate censorship to this degree because it's minimal imho. The reason I said what I said was because there was uncertainty in the air and I wanted to put it all to rest by showing people exactly what was censored and what wasn't.

On the main forum Raz said they were changing physics and busts, and now we've got some visuals of more than just portraits being changed. Trying to clear up misinformation is great and all, but it isn't helpful when you aren't entirely correct yourself. Minimal or not, it's significance is subjective and people voicing their opinion against it is a means to dissuade them from continuing it and hopefully reconsider.

I still want to see them give us a patch or something of the sort to choose between a censored and original version so they don't need to do such a half hearted compromise.

On a side note, holy ♥♥♥♥ dude. I wouldn't be surprised if half of the thread posts are yours.



Originally posted by Arthurz Le Blur:
Lol this still going strong? You guys are making me wanna play this now just to see the small changes in person, too bad we broke over here fam.

I definitely wouldn't buy it for that reason lol, but if the game looks cool to you I say go for it. I've been having lots of fun.
Kyroliger Aug 26, 2017 @ 3:12pm 
Originally posted by TouchMe:
Originally posted by Kyroliger:

Yeah, I get what you're saying. Like if you're gunna censor something, go through with it all the way.

Thanks for the gameplay side by side comparison. For the record, I don't support censorship in any form, just like you guys. I can tolerate censorship to this degree because it's minimal imho. The reason I said what I said was because there was uncertainty in the air and I wanted to put it all to rest by showing people exactly what was censored and what wasn't.

On the main forum Raz said they were changing physics and busts, and now we've got some visuals of more than just portraits being changed. Trying to clear up misinformation is great and all, but it isn't helpful when you aren't entirely correct yourself. Minimal or not, it's significance is subjective and people voicing their opinion against it is a means to dissuade them from continuing it and hopefully reconsider.

I still want to see them give us a patch or something of the sort to choose between a censored and original version so they don't need to do such a half hearted compromise.

On a side note, holy ♥♥♥♥ dude. I wouldn't be surprised if half of the thread posts are yours.



Originally posted by Arthurz Le Blur:
Lol this still going strong? You guys are making me wanna play this now just to see the small changes in person, too bad we broke over here fam.

I definitely wouldn't buy it for that reason lol, but if the game looks cool to you I say go for it. I've been having lots of fun.
Lol. Well if Raz said it then I guess the comparison was in vein
Miyuki Shadowclaw Aug 26, 2017 @ 3:47pm 
I was surprised when you were saying they were the same right now. I read his post [which is in this discussion] where he says they are doing it. He also explains why they are doing it.

What does SJW mean? I also always figured all the censorship stuff were because of feminists. They are a very hypocritical group.
Kyroliger Aug 26, 2017 @ 3:49pm 
Originally posted by Zyrathus:
I was surprised when you were saying they were the same right now. I read his post [which is in this discussion] where he says they are doing it. He also explains why they are doing it.

What does SJW mean? I also always figured all the censorship stuff were because of feminists. They are a very hypocritical group.

Social Justice Warrior.
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