Game shuts down PC

[sadie]

So, I've been playing for about 30 minutes or so but after about 15 minutes or 30 minutes of gameplay. The game just turns my computer off, no bluescreen, no errors, it just turns my monitor black. My computer automatically starts turning back on but it keeps doing over and over. I've removed all overclocks since this used to happen to me in another game. And my overclocks were the reason that game crashed. No luck in this one though.

I also checked my temperatures. My GPU sits at around 60C, and my CPU sits at 50C and their usage is always above 80%. I don't think this is particularly bad. I've been already looking into a new computer in general but I thought this would be fine. I also run the game smoothly at standard settings.

AMD A10-5800K
EVGA GTX 950 SSC
8 GB RAM (1600 MHz)
Windows 10

[RAMChYLD]

How long have you had your computer? Since you overclocked in the past, there is a possibility that one or more parts are starting to wear out.

On the other hand, there could also be a possibility that it’s a driver fault- one of my rigs do that when running SimCity 2013 (although my issue happened on completely different hardware, and happened because of CrossFireX). If you have not had this problem with an earlier driver, try rolling back.

Lastly, this is a long shot, but have you checked your PSU? Can you check to see if it was running abnormally hot when the game is running, or borrow a higher powered PSU and see if the issue recurs? Because when I built my first gaming rig, I undercut the PSU, and paid for it dearly- whenever the game starts loading the system, the machine would suddenly BSOD and then the hard disk would behave as if it has become corrupted. Letting the machine cool down fixed the issue. The problem went away when I eventually figured the issue out and replaced the PSU.

[sadie]

The problem is apparently fixed, I updated my windows to 1903 since it was still 1803. And updated all my outdated drivers using Driver Booster. And cleaned the dust out of my computer. It runs fine now, no restarts as of yet. The CPU temp dropped 5C (50C to 45C). And when things get really heavy, it goes up to 50C again, and the GPU goes up to 60C.

[TheBear]

Never use driver booster, damn.
Programs like that easily pick the wrong drivers.

Its like people saying "i use CCleaner", which has a tendency to remove things it shouldnt touch with a ten foot pole.

But heres hoping you wont have further crashes.

[sadie]

Originally posted by TheBear:

Never use driver booster, damn.
Programs like that easily pick the wrong drivers.

Its like people saying "i use CCleaner", which has a tendency to remove things it shouldnt touch with a ten foot pole.

But heres hoping you wont have further crashes.

Then what would you recommend to clean a PC, or update drivers??

[TheBear]

Originally posted by Sadie:

Originally posted by TheBear:

Never use driver booster, damn.
Programs like that easily pick the wrong drivers.

Its like people saying "i use CCleaner", which has a tendency to remove things it shouldnt touch with a ten foot pole.

But heres hoping you wont have further crashes.

Then what would you recommend to clean a PC, or update drivers??

Why clean a pc?
Drivers, just install using windows.
Ive never run into issues that way.

Driver updates, even geforce experience will do a better job. (In case of nvidia cards)
Or manual download of driver packages.

Everything else, ill let windows update decide.

Now back in Vista en windows 7 days, i wouldnt have recommended that.
But windows 10 is actually pretty damn stable and very rarely makes a mistake, indeed it now very often picks drivers i myself sometimes didnt even know was correct version for some device or another.

5 years ago, you wouldnt have caught me saying that.
But the downside is, that windows 10 does things in such a way, that thirdparty programs like ddu, ccleaner, driverbooster etc, can muck things up unintentionally.

[Vyrtualis]

Originally posted by TheBear:

Originally posted by Sadie:

Then what would you recommend to clean a PC, or update drivers??

Why clean a pc?
Drivers, just install using windows.
Ive never run into issues that way.

Driver updates, even geforce experience will do a better job. (In case of nvidia cards)
Or manual download of driver packages.

Everything else, ill let windows update decide.

Now back in Vista en windows 7 days, i wouldnt have recommended that.
But windows 10 is actually pretty damn stable and very rarely makes a mistake, indeed it now very often picks drivers i myself sometimes didnt even know was correct version for some device or another.

5 years ago, you wouldnt have caught me saying that.
But the downside is, that windows 10 does things in such a way, that thirdparty programs like ddu, ccleaner, driverbooster etc, can muck things up unintentionally.

Aye, just manually install drivers, it's pretty easy to do through Device Manager - 99% of them never get an update anyway. Your main one will always be your GPU driver, which you should always keep on the latest stable version for the best performance (can set that to auto in your GPU driver program like Geforce Experience).

Never touch CCleaner, any driver programs, anything professing to "clean" or "speed up" your pc. DDU is the exception, but it should only be used if you need a 100% fresh driver install, like if you're switching from AMD to Nvidia and vice versa.

[RAMChYLD]

Originally posted by TheBear:

Originally posted by Sadie:

Then what would you recommend to clean a PC, or update drivers??

Why clean a pc?
Drivers, just install using windows.
Ive never run into issues that way.

Honestly, I do not recommend using Windows Update. Last time I did it tried to install two different versions of the GeForce drivers at the same time (a legacy driver for the onboard GeForce 8200 on the NForce motherboard, plus a bleeding edge driver for the GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boosts that I have. Totally destroyed itself doing that, with the screen flickering on and off several times followed by a BSOD, and the machine had to be reformatted after that because the way the two installers went back and forth on each other totally damaged the registry.

That said, there is no way to manually turn off Windows 10's automated driver install save for pulling the ethernet cable out or turning off WiFi completely.

I usually download the latest drivers, use DDU in safe mode to wipe the old drivers, then disconnect the ethernet cable before rebooting back to normal and installing the new drivers, and then I'd reconnect the ethernet cable. Unfortunately, I have to get rid of that NForce motherboard because there's no way to make it work on Windows 10 with the GTX 650 Ti Boosts. Really stupid of NVidia and Microsoft. Had it let me stick to a particular driver like Windows 7 did, it wouldn't have mattered.

[Vyrtualis]

Originally posted by RAMChYLD:

Originally posted by TheBear:

Why clean a pc?
Drivers, just install using windows.
Ive never run into issues that way.

Honestly, I do not recommend using Windows. Last time I did it tried to install two different versions of the GeForce drivers at the same time (a legacy driver for the onboard GeForce 8200 on the NForce motherboard, plus a bleeding edge driver for the GeForce 650 Ti Boosts that I have. Totally destroyed itself doing that, with the screen flickering on and off several times followed by a BSOD, and the machine had to be reformatted after that because the way the two installers went back and forth on each other totally damaged the registry.

That's less to do with Windows and more to do with having auto updates on with effectively 2 different GPUs in one system. You could have two different SKUs in another system and its bound to have a similar conflict at some point.

I don't advise having auto updates on anything except a single SKU system, and only through the official GPU driver program like Geforce Experience or Radeon. If you use Windows for updating drivers, do it manually. That's the only way to ensure every driver is appropriate.

[sadie]

Originally posted by RAMChYLD:

Originally posted by TheBear:

Why clean a pc?
Drivers, just install using windows.
Ive never run into issues that way.

Honestly, I do not recommend using Windows Update. Last time I did it tried to install two different versions of the GeForce drivers at the same time (a legacy driver for the onboard GeForce 8200 on the NForce motherboard, plus a bleeding edge driver for the GeForce 650 Ti Boosts that I have. Totally destroyed itself doing that, with the screen flickering on and off several times followed by a BSOD, and the machine had to be reformatted after that because the way the two installers went back and forth on each other totally damaged the registry.

That said, there is no way to manually turn off Windows 10's automated driver install save for pulling the ethernet cable out or turning off WiFi completely.

I usually download the latest drivers, use DDU in safe mode to wipe the old drivers, then disconnect the ethernet cable before rebooting back to normal and installing the new drivers, and then I'd reconnect the ethernet cable.

Yeah, I've long not trusted Windows to update my software for me. Usually wrecks it, the Windows updates themselves at times can break things for me. Like it did when I updated to the May 2019 Update. Some of my programs ceased to work properly.

[sadie]

Originally posted by TheBear:

Originally posted by Sadie:

Then what would you recommend to clean a PC, or update drivers??

Why clean a pc?
Drivers, just install using windows.
Ive never run into issues that way.

Driver updates, even geforce experience will do a better job. (In case of nvidia cards)
Or manual download of driver packages.

Everything else, ill let windows update decide.

Now back in Vista en windows 7 days, i wouldnt have recommended that.
But windows 10 is actually pretty damn stable and very rarely makes a mistake, indeed it now very often picks drivers i myself sometimes didnt even know was correct version for some device or another.

5 years ago, you wouldnt have caught me saying that.
But the downside is, that windows 10 does things in such a way, that thirdparty programs like ddu, ccleaner, driverbooster etc, can muck things up unintentionally.

Yeah, honestly that kinda opened my eyes a bit because you saying that made me realize I never had many issues with Windows 10, other than minor issues that can be fixed or updated. I just naturally stuck with what's always felt right to me and just like how you said you wouldn't be saying 5 years ago, I wouldn't have either lol. Guess I was just stuck in the old loop.

[Vyrtualis]

Originally posted by RAMChYLD:

That said, there is no way to manually turn off Windows 10's automated driver install save for pulling the ethernet cable out or turning off WiFi completely.

You can disable auto driver updates by doing the following:

Search "Control Panel" and open it.

Click "System and Security". Then click "System". Then "Advanced System Settings".

Click the "Hardware" tab, then "Device Installation Settings".

Click "No" then "Save Changes".

That should keep auto driver updates from happening.

If for some reason one wants to only block updates from one or two devices, you can do a GPE tweak that will do that: https://www.ghacks.net/2017/06/03/stop-windows-from-installing-drivers-for-specific-devices/