About the crowns and sizes of monsters

[WETER]

Can small and large crowns be obtained only at a high rank of 6+* or can they be obtained at low ranks of 1-5*?

[lexilogo]

Short answer, I'm pretty sure that doing High Rank is the best way to farm crowns and that you shouldn't bother with Low Rank.

Long answer:

-The best way to farm monster crowns (excluding quests where abnormal sizes are coded into the quest) is to do the "All monsters in a zone" event quests, they have a specifically coded higher chance to spawn rare crowns. Coral Waltz is on at the moment. Failing that, some sources have reported that high-quality Investigations (ones with more reward boxes or more high quality boxes) also come with higher chances at rare crowns.

-Optional HR quests never spawn gold crown monsters.

-While I haven't found a definitive source on this, I've seen that while Low Rank can produce monsters in the Silver Crown size range (though allegedly the higher end of Silver Crown size monsters won't show up) I haven't seen anything confirming for sure that Gold Crown monsters can spawn in LR. Maybe minis are a possibility, but I'm not sure on that.

-While High Rank does mean it'll take you longer to kill the monster, if you're serious about crownfarming you should learn to eyeball monster size to some extent. Hop in, look at a monster and judge if you think it's unusually large/small, THEN hunt it if you think there's a possibility it's a crown monster you haven't hunted yet.

[Omaeka]

What is a crown? I am up to the Negigante now tracking the 4 elders and haven't seen a crown yet

[Master Cheeks]

Omaeka původně napsal:

What is a crown? I am up to the Negigante now tracking the 4 elders and haven't seen a crown yet

All monsters have relatively consistent sizes. Crown monsters are outliers, a small gold crown means that monster is abnormally small compared to the average, and a large gold crown means it is abnormally large compared to the average.

Crown monsters are generally pretty rare outside of the event quests specifically tailored to finding them so it's not a surprise you haven't come across one. If you check the monster field guide it will tell you what the smallest and largest size is for each you've fought.

[Xilo The Odd]

Booty Prospector původně napsal:

Omaeka původně napsal:

What is a crown? I am up to the Negigante now tracking the 4 elders and haven't seen a crown yet

All monsters have relatively consistent sizes. Crown monsters are outliers, a small gold crown means that monster is abnormally small compared to the average, and a large gold crown means it is abnormally large compared to the average.

Crown monsters are generally pretty rare outside of the event quests specifically tailored to finding them so it's not a surprise you haven't come across one. If you check the monster field guide it will tell you what the smallest and largest size is for each you've fought.

save for a few monsters which do not have crowns, thank god for those monsters being that way...

[Master Cheeks]

Xilo The Odd původně napsal:

Booty Prospector původně napsal:

All monsters have relatively consistent sizes. Crown monsters are outliers, a small gold crown means that monster is abnormally small compared to the average, and a large gold crown means it is abnormally large compared to the average.

Crown monsters are generally pretty rare outside of the event quests specifically tailored to finding them so it's not a surprise you haven't come across one. If you check the monster field guide it will tell you what the smallest and largest size is for each you've fought.

save for a few monsters which do not have crowns, thank god for those monsters being that way...

Technically the only monsters that don't have crowns are Zorah and Xeno because they're story monsters, and the raid bosses, Kulve, Behemoth and Ancient Leshen as their sizes don't change either. Every other monster has a crown but thankfully only the base game monsters count towards the achievement which is nice.

[Xilo The Odd]

Booty Prospector původně napsal:

Xilo The Odd původně napsal:

save for a few monsters which do not have crowns, thank god for those monsters being that way...

Technically the only monsters that don't have crowns are Zorah and Xeno because they're story monsters, and the raid bosses, Kulve, Behemoth and Ancient Leshen as their sizes don't change either. Every other monster has a crown but thankfully only the base game monsters count towards the achievement which is nice.

yeah thats basically what i mean.

no one wants to farm Xeno or Zorah or god forbid behemoth for friggen crowns... that'd be a nightmare considering theya re so big to begin with measuring up to see if you got a crown or not would be a real pain in the butt.

[Master Cheeks]

Xilo The Odd původně napsal:

Booty Prospector původně napsal:

Technically the only monsters that don't have crowns are Zorah and Xeno because they're story monsters, and the raid bosses, Kulve, Behemoth and Ancient Leshen as their sizes don't change either. Every other monster has a crown but thankfully only the base game monsters count towards the achievement which is nice.

yeah thats basically what i mean.

no one wants to farm Xeno or Zorah or god forbid behemoth for friggen crowns... that'd be a nightmare considering theya re so big to begin with measuring up to see if you got a crown or not would be a real pain in the butt.

Xeno isn't too bad to farm since you can do it solo but I agree that farming behemoth is like pulling teeth. You either git gud enough to solo or you submit to the whims of randoms in SOS. Either way, you're beating your head against the wall. No thanks lol.

[Omaeka]

Booty Prospector původně napsal:

Omaeka původně napsal:

What is a crown? I am up to the Negigante now tracking the 4 elders and haven't seen a crown yet

All monsters have relatively consistent sizes. Crown monsters are outliers, a small gold crown means that monster is abnormally small compared to the average, and a large gold crown means it is abnormally large compared to the average.

Crown monsters are generally pretty rare outside of the event quests specifically tailored to finding them so it's not a surprise you haven't come across one. If you check the monster field guide it will tell you what the smallest and largest size is for each you've fought.

Oooh it's for monster sizes gotcha, that's pretty cool, do they do anything?

[lexilogo]

Omaeka původně napsal:

Oooh it's for monster sizes gotcha, that's pretty cool, do they do anything?

They do affect the fight- Smaller monsters will have smaller hitboxes but as a tradeoff be harder to hit themselves, and larger monsters will have larger hitboxes but also be easier targets, so fighting a giant Bazelgeuse is a somewhat different experience from a tiny Bazelgeuse for example, but that's it.

The crowns themselves are for the purposes of achievement hunting, which is honestly a good thing because deliberately farming them is pretty much 100% RNG based. It's just a thing you can collect if you want to collect it, and the size variation offers nice variety, but it's not like gold crowns offer more materials or anything.

[웃xxx]

just remember, for Elder Dragons and Black Diablos, its best to get investigations for them. Tempered must be at least 3 boxes. Normal ones, 1 Gold 1 Silver at least

[Homeless.]

My suggestion is to measure each monster needed so you don't waste time killing them if they won't be crowns, plenty of yt videos on that. On that note I've been farming Vaal for my last large crown and it's getting ridiculous at this point, must have been 50 investigations and god knows how many kills and nothing.

[WETER]

Thanks to everyone for the answers, I’ll try to run HR, just by running LR the most ideal investigations, as in my opinion the monster did not change at all