Dota 2
snaykey Nov 18, 2020 @ 1:40pm
How to play Dota with <3k behavior score?
So around 2 years ago I was in a really bad place - toxic workplace, toxic relationship, basically, life was hell. And one of my outlets was Dota - I dropped from 4.6k to 3.7 mmr and 8k to 2500 behavior score in like 2 months. I was extremely toxic and angry, constantly flaming and arguing. Never really went afk/shadow amulet/ruining on purpose, but yes, I admit I was a horrible person to play with and accept my fault. So please, save the "you deserve it" etc for reddit. I know I deserved it.

My question is - how am I actually supposed to play Dota now?

I reinstalled a month ago and got back with my friends for 20 games unranked to shake off the rust and get back into the game. Problem is, none of them took a 2-year break like me and they're mostly Immortals so we can't technically queue for Ranked.

So I tried playing solo. I really did. Ranked, unranked, turbo. It's all the same. The game is literally unplayable. In literally 80% or more of the games, there is at least 1 person intentionally feeding/afk/warding our jungle/playing carry pos 5/farming rapier/pretty sure you know what I mean.

And I know - PMA, mute everyone, don't talk (I mean, I can't even talk with <3k beh). I just can't do this anymore.

I play pos 3. I played 5 Ranked games today (3.7k mmr). The first one my pos 4 was AM, starting without any items and rushing Ring of Health. The second one my pos 4 was Bloodseeker, going straight jungle. The third one I laned with Warlock, who died at level 2, insta bought back and started running down mid. The fourth one our lane was going great until the mid Zeus died 1v1 at min 4, immediately went jungle and farmed the entire game, only KSing with ult. The fifth my pos 5 picked Invoker, went dual mid, died, and started chain feeding. All of them ended in <30 mins and I hated every single second of it.

At this point, I honestly don't care about MMR anymore. I just want to play one single normal game of Dota 2.

Thankfully, my life is the complete opposite of what it was 2 years ago - I'm working a job I absolutely love, living together with a person I really love too, things are honestly amazing. Come to think of it, "playing" Dota has actually been BY FAR the worst thing I've experienced in like a year. I actually feel like I understand PTSD a lot better after my in-game adventures.

So please guys. Please. How am I supposed to play Dota 2?

Play like 500 Turbo games (which allegedly give 1/2 beh score than they used to)? I work fulltime and have a personal life as well, I really don't have the time for that.

Pay some guy to boost my behavior score? I have like 800 Steam games on my account and I'm not risking it banned/stolen in any way.

PMA and keep struggling? I tried. I really did. I have too little spare time and too many better options than to spend hours doing something I find only negativity in.

Buy a new smurf account? Ignoring the fact that it's bannable, I've been playing Dota since 2011 on this account and it has all my inventory, friends, other games, etc.

How am I supposed to play Dota 2?

Anyway, sorry for the wall of text. It's totally fine if you don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about any of this and let me know that you don't. I guess I just needed to vent.

I love this game. I really, really do. My high-school Dota buddies are my among best friends nowadays. Going to ESL Frankfurt was one of my best experiences. I've spent thousands of hours watching streams and following the pro scene. I used to make videos, worked with joinDota and GosuGamers, and had thousands of posts on D-A.com.

But I just can't play anymore. I want to, but I can't. I can't take this. I am not 15 years old anymore, searching for "-ap banlist" Battle.net games and not giving a ♥♥♥♥ about anything. I can't justify in ANY way spending my time doing this ("this" because my experience, especially my 5 games today, is definitely not "playing a game").

How am I supposed to play Dota 2?
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Zockolade Nov 18, 2020 @ 1:42pm 
Create a new Steam account!
Ahh I see you have no time to play 100 hours to be able to access rankeds again.
Last edited by Zockolade; Nov 18, 2020 @ 1:56pm
Zockolade Nov 18, 2020 @ 2:06pm 
Getting beneath 3k behaviour score is something you really need to begging for.
I am sure if you mute all channels and help your team you will get back to something that is palatable.
Last edited by Zockolade; Nov 18, 2020 @ 2:07pm
snaykey Nov 18, 2020 @ 2:08pm 
Originally posted by Zockolade:
Create a new Steam account!
Ahh I see you have no time to play 100 hours to be able to access rankeds again.

Thanks for the reply, I wasn't actually expecting anyone to.

Yup, the time investment required for Ranked + the fact that I'd really like to keep playing on this (and my only account) is what prevents me from doing so.

I guess I should just suck it up and buy a calibrated account.
snaykey Nov 18, 2020 @ 2:14pm 
Originally posted by Zockolade:
Getting beneath 3k behaviour score is something you really need to begging for.
I am sure if you mute all channels and help your team you will get back to something that is palatable.

I instamute everyone and do not communicate in any way in-game (I mean, I can't use chat/voice anyway). I've played ~50 games ever since I came back, never had different than "<3" reports, never been to LP, ~5-10 commends per summary. Behavior score went from 2200 to 2600 across my last 3 summaries. Judging by that ratio, I need what, like 200 games of (un)ranked, 80%+ of which I'd absolutely hate playing
snaykey Nov 18, 2020 @ 2:16pm 
Originally posted by ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ:
Go be free. There are better outlets for creativity and play
This is the correct answer, thanks.

It's just that I got like 800 Steam games, PS4, Oculus, but nothing of it comes close to Dota's gameplay (or at least gameplay at >3k behavior)
Moon Helldiver Nov 18, 2020 @ 2:36pm 
I have ~10K and you have no idea what kind of toxic creeps and poor players are in my games.
I don't think that this system works properly, because toxic players tend to game it very well, they pretend ot be cute and nice for 20 games to get higher score then sper out like crazy in one whole game.
Си́нтез Nov 18, 2020 @ 2:37pm 
Play as usual. How would be playing at 10k? Think about and then play exactly the same 10k-ish way at 3k (or whaterver you score is). That's pretty much the only secret. Your teamate is doing something wrong? Let them do their thing and concentrate on your role. If you see a player that is doing something right, follow them , help them. When you had difficult time in your life, no dota player was trying to help you or understood you. Well, you can absolutely do the opposite ad give those negative players some understanding. Still play the game correct way, regardless of how bad your teamamte is doing. Eventually, you will break the cycle and join the higher conduct tier of dota.
Absche Nov 18, 2020 @ 10:18pm 
There is no easy way out of that situation. I guess you could play with friends. Join a guild to do that. Never has been easier to find some actual Dota2 friends. My advice is to use the short time you have with Dota2 to go for more relaxed gaming. You can even do bot-coop gaming, but which unfortunately won‘t bring up your behavior score anymore. Anyway, have fun!
AncienT oNe Nov 18, 2020 @ 10:48pm 
Originally posted by snaykey:
So around 2 years ago I was in a really bad place - toxic workplace, toxic relationship, basically, life was hell. And one of my outlets was Dota - I dropped from 4.6k to 3.7 mmr and 8k to 2500 behavior score in like 2 months. I was extremely toxic and angry, constantly flaming and arguing. Never really went afk/shadow amulet/ruining on purpose, but yes, I admit I was a horrible person to play with and accept my fault. So please, save the "you deserve it" etc for reddit. I know I deserved it.

My question is - how am I actually supposed to play Dota now?

I reinstalled a month ago and got back with my friends for 20 games unranked to shake off the rust and get back into the game. Problem is, none of them took a 2-year break like me and they're mostly Immortals so we can't technically queue for Ranked.

So I tried playing solo. I really did. Ranked, unranked, turbo. It's all the same. The game is literally unplayable. In literally 80% or more of the games, there is at least 1 person intentionally feeding/afk/warding our jungle/playing carry pos 5/farming rapier/pretty sure you know what I mean.

And I know - PMA, mute everyone, don't talk (I mean, I can't even talk with <3k beh). I just can't do this anymore.

I play pos 3. I played 5 Ranked games today (3.7k mmr). The first one my pos 4 was AM, starting without any items and rushing Ring of Health. The second one my pos 4 was Bloodseeker, going straight jungle. The third one I laned with Warlock, who died at level 2, insta bought back and started running down mid. The fourth one our lane was going great until the mid Zeus died 1v1 at min 4, immediately went jungle and farmed the entire game, only KSing with ult. The fifth my pos 5 picked Invoker, went dual mid, died, and started chain feeding. All of them ended in <30 mins and I hated every single second of it.

At this point, I honestly don't care about MMR anymore. I just want to play one single normal game of Dota 2.

Thankfully, my life is the complete opposite of what it was 2 years ago - I'm working a job I absolutely love, living together with a person I really love too, things are honestly amazing. Come to think of it, "playing" Dota has actually been BY FAR the worst thing I've experienced in like a year. I actually feel like I understand PTSD a lot better after my in-game adventures.

So please guys. Please. How am I supposed to play Dota 2?

Play like 500 Turbo games (which allegedly give 1/2 beh score than they used to)? I work fulltime and have a personal life as well, I really don't have the time for that.

Pay some guy to boost my behavior score? I have like 800 Steam games on my account and I'm not risking it banned/stolen in any way.

PMA and keep struggling? I tried. I really did. I have too little spare time and too many better options than to spend hours doing something I find only negativity in.

Buy a new smurf account? Ignoring the fact that it's bannable, I've been playing Dota since 2011 on this account and it has all my inventory, friends, other games, etc.

How am I supposed to play Dota 2?

Anyway, sorry for the wall of text. It's totally fine if you don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about any of this and let me know that you don't. I guess I just needed to vent.

I love this game. I really, really do. My high-school Dota buddies are my among best friends nowadays. Going to ESL Frankfurt was one of my best experiences. I've spent thousands of hours watching streams and following the pro scene. I used to make videos, worked with joinDota and GosuGamers, and had thousands of posts on D-A.com.

But I just can't play anymore. I want to, but I can't. I can't take this. I am not 15 years old anymore, searching for "-ap banlist" Battle.net games and not giving a ♥♥♥♥ about anything. I can't justify in ANY way spending my time doing this ("this" because my experience, especially my 5 games today, is definitely not "playing a game").

How am I supposed to play Dota 2?
get new account
FredDie Nov 19, 2020 @ 4:59am 
I was in the same situation having 3k BS. I commited to raising it to 10k, took couple hundred turbo games, wasnt fun at all turbo is garbage. Only to find out that games at 10k are often as much toxic...mainly because dota is free and all the people that play the game to ruin fun for others just create new account. After couple of weeks playing in high BS I just gave up, 2/10 games were fun, not more, rest was with griefers, junglers, flamers. So dont bother like I did, spent ton of time just to be dissapointed...until they rework report system dota is total D O G S H I T.
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