Thimbleweed Park

Thimbleweed Park

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gyarad0site May 5, 2017 @ 12:59pm
Is the Mansion mansion the Edison mansion... (with spoilers!)
...or is Thimbleweed Park just a game within Maniac Mansion's universe !?

Mostly just meant to have some fun here. I saw some speculation in the "Ending..." thread that the two games exist within the same timeline, as well as the suggestion that the mansion itself is the same one ! There's arguments to be made for either side thanks to the various cross-game references. I'm listing some that I noticed - feel free to add any I missed. What do you think: same timeline, or completely AU ?

((POSSIBLE SPOILERS AHEAD))

- Sandy & Dave work at the diner
- Razor & the Scummettes perform in town (listed on the bulletin board) !
- Leonard mentions his nerdy cousin Bernie who got into MIT = Bernard !?
- Chuck the Plant lives in the mansion library !! What's weirder: Delores says, "Chuckie's been in our family for years"... !
- The Edmund family names: Edeard, Edwina, Edmond, Edith, in keeping with the Edisons (Dr. Fred, Edna, and Weird Ed). I guess Chuck was named after his father Charles ? Not sure why Franklin isn't his "real" brother.
- There's a package addressed to W. Ed Edison in the post office
- Green Tentacle is in the audience at Ransome's show
- Nurse Edna is the obscene caller ("for a good time, call Edna"...!)
- Probably the biggest tell: in the wire frame world, Edna is in the first-floor kitchen and chases Delores in the same terrifying, nightmarish way. The kitchens are identical.
- The "vaguely familiar" grandfather clock at the mansion entrance
- In the wire frame world, the arcade store has the exact same array of arcade machines as the ones in the Edison mansion

Are the Edmunds and the Edisons the same family ? Are they distant cousins ? Is the mansion the same ? Is there continuity to be found, or is it just fanservice I shouldn't be dwelling on ? I still think Thimbleweed Park is a contained game/universe within the original Maniac Mansion world, but not exactly part of the timeline. Alternatively, Thimbleweed Park could be set 10 years BEFORE Maniac Mansion, since the latter opens with the phrase "20 years ago, today," pegging it at 1997...?

Then we need to talk about whether or not it's the same world as Monkey Island... ((see: the cursed navigator head!!))
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-NN- May 5, 2017 @ 1:34pm 
Only just occurred to me that Franklin references Ben Franklin from DotT, who obviously isn't DIRECTLY related to the Edisons.

In Thimbleweed Park, Franklin and Chuck are not bio bros. I tend to think of LeChuck for Chuck first up, though.

The name Thimbleweed always makes me think of Threepwood.

The game is just filled with nostalgia bombs and most are probably not terribly important or relevant.

Some others, however... who knows?
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thom-22 May 6, 2017 @ 10:08am 
Originally posted by gyarad0site:
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Wouldn't it be cool if all of that was true and was a setup for a sequel that we could play next year? :-o
LowLevel May 6, 2017 @ 12:08pm 
Also, the library is practically identical, including the staircase.
jjmccullough May 7, 2017 @ 2:26pm 
I personally think the evidence is pretty strong they live in the same universe, and you've done a pretty good job explaining why, gyarad0site. The chronology I assumed while playing was that the Edmunds eventually left the mansion and the Edisons moved in, but other than that the families were not directly related.

The ending kind of scrambles everything, or maybe not. If the Thimbleweed univerise exists in a game world, then it makes sense that another game world could exist in the same continuity.

One of the radio trivia questions asks about Maniac Mansion, which is another big reveal. After all, in Thimbleweed world, it had already been established that there is an in-universe alternative-version of LucasFilm, (MmucusFlem) and an in-universe alternative-version of Maniac Mansion itself (I forget what it's called, but I think it's mentioned in something Delores reads at one point).

Really, you could easily imagine Chuck making all these points in his rant near the end. "Didn't you notice all the people from Maniac Mansion? Why do we co-exist in a world full of video game characters!?"

gyarad0site May 10, 2017 @ 7:41pm 
Originally posted by jjmccullough:
One of the radio trivia questions asks about Maniac Mansion, which is another big reveal.

I never got that question, in either of my two playthroughs ! Do you remember what it was, specifically ?

Similarly, @NN, I never managed to find out about Nathalie's Book of Continuity Errors: mind posting what you've gleaned ?
-NN- May 10, 2017 @ 8:16pm 
Originally posted by gyarad0site:
Originally posted by jjmccullough:
One of the radio trivia questions asks about Maniac Mansion, which is another big reveal.

I never got that question, in either of my two playthroughs ! Do you remember what it was, specifically ?

Similarly, @NN, I never managed to find out about Nathalie's Book of Continuity Errors: mind posting what you've gleaned ?


I can't even see where I've mentioned it in this thread, but from the official Thimbleweed Park forum post...

When you go to offer Natalie a Pulitzer Prize-winning scoop with Antonio Reyes, you have an option to tell her that they are all just characters in a video game, at which point she states that she suspected that: "I have a reporter's notebook full of odd anachronisms and continuity errors."

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RavenWings Aug 12, 2017 @ 8:10am 
In this game its rather hard to say what is easteregg, a reference and what an actual connection. I personally had the Impression that most of it is references and eastereggs.. the old Lucas Arts/Filmgames titles had a lot of them too.. but with Maniac Mansion there seems to be a special connection.

My best guess is, that Maniac Mansion was developed by Dolores at MMucasFlem, thats why the game features locations and characters from her "real" life.. similar to Alan Wake, where the author in the game wrote his books about Max Payne and playing the Max Payne games with this in mind, actually gives you some more insight into the fictional character Alan Wake.

Or maybe Thimbleweed Park is kind of a "Night at LucasArts", where all the old games and maybe some tossed concepts took on a life of their own and formed a new digital world.

allso lets not forget the world is hollow blaa blaa our masters are realy lizards and space is a hologram :)
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