The PE friedrich

[Eva]

So whats up with this ship ? Does it have a citadel at all ? Or is that why its so low in the water, HE seems to be her main weakness...

She has reasonable speed and turn rate and great armor, AP shells are not even half as effective against this thing as against other BB's

Amazing guns as well, very accurate...

The way she plays seems to me like a lower tier tirpitz without the 'upskirt" problem.

So aside from HE on the deck and superstructure, how do i deal with one effectively as a fellow BB ?

[cobruh]

also events for pay2play premium ships suck ass

[imrahil2]

İlk olarak cobruh tarafından gönderildi:

also events for pay2play premium ships suck ass

Someone has to pay the bills for a FTP game. You either werent hitting the right sections, or he wasnt as broadside as you thought, the visuals can be very deceptive. PE has bad HE and also smaller caliber guns than most T6 BBs. If your shells werent doing damage, return fire with HE and burninate him. PE is very much an average premium without OP gimmicks. The one exception is the AA is amazing if you spec for it.

[Ryuu]

It got quite thick citadel bulges and narrow but 300 mm armor belt, the citadel armor itself is just 60 mm
Not knowing how to counter a particular premium ship does not count as it being OP.

[cobruh]

i know how to play this game, thanks.
this is not league of legends i dont see how i should "counter" a broadside ship that is immune to dmg

[Eva]

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i know how to play this game, thanks.
this is not league of legends i dont see how i should "counter" a broadside ship that is immune to dmg

Its far from immune, spam HE at it and it goes down quick. Or use an arizona or a warspite or another same tier BB with heavy guns with high pen.


I agree that its a very survivable ship, and in the right hands it can be a real pain to play against, but its definitly not immune or unkillable its weaknesses are high explosive shells, fires and torpedo's. Exploit those or get your teammates to do it.

[Ryuu]

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i know how to play this game, thanks.
this is not league of legends i dont see how i should "counter" a broadside ship that is immune to dmg

So you've taken a look at her armor scheme in the port? With a mod that shows all ships in the tech trees you can do it even if you don't have it yourself.

[imrahil2]

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i know how to play this game, thanks.
this is not league of legends i dont see how i should "counter" a broadside ship that is immune to dmg

Your claims display a lack of game mechanics concerning how armor works and how this applies to PEF. But don't take my word for it. Here's LittleWhiteMouse's, one of the respected Community Contributors who does excellent analysis of new ships, summary of PEF's suvivability.
"Summary
On the whole, Prinz Eitel Friedrich's protection scheme is pretty average and nothing to get excited about. Yes, she can take citadel hits but this wouldn't be worth even noting if she wasn't a German battleship.

Armour scheme is meh overall.
She sits too low in the water to make the best use of her dispersed armour scheme.
Yes, her citadel is vulnerable. No, it's not a crippling flaw.
Evaluation: FAIR"

[Ryuu]

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İlk olarak cobruh tarafından gönderildi:

i know how to play this game, thanks.
this is not league of legends i dont see how i should "counter" a broadside ship that is immune to dmg

Your claims display a lack of game mechanics concerning how armor works and how this applies to PEF. But don't take my word for it. Here's LittleWhiteMouse's, one of the respected Community Contributors who does excellent analysis of new ships, summary of PEF's suvivability.
"Summary
On the whole, Prinz Eitel Friedrich's protection scheme is pretty average and nothing to get excited about. Yes, she can take citadel hits but this wouldn't be worth even noting if she wasn't a German battleship.

Armour scheme is meh overall.
She sits too low in the water to make the best use of her dispersed armour scheme.
Yes, her citadel is vulnerable. No, it's not a crippling flaw.
Evaluation: FAIR"

Post the link to whole review maybe? It's really useful to know premium ships' weaknesses!

It's the novelty making them OP, it wears off using knowledge.

[imrahil2]

İlk olarak Ryuu tarafından gönderildi:

Post the link to whole review maybe? It's really useful to know premium ships' weaknesses!

It's the novelty making them OP, it wears off using knowledge.

I posted it earlier in the thread lol, but I'll put it here again.

https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/177400-premium-ship-review-116-prinz-eitel-friedrich/

[Ryuu]

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İlk olarak Ryuu tarafından gönderildi:

Post the link to whole review maybe? It's really useful to know premium ships' weaknesses!

It's the novelty making them OP, it wears off using knowledge.

I posted it earlier in the thread lol, but I'll put it here again.

https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/177400-premium-ship-review-116-prinz-eitel-friedrich/

Ah, sorry, haven't noticed :)

[Steven]

wasted 106 euro on that ship ok it have quests ,but the ship sucks ,low damage only good to kill dd's and that for a battle ship ,you cant 1vs 1 with a other BB ,know next time i need use my money meabe on a other game ... ,waste of money in my eyes

[Ploof Ploof]

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wasted 106 euro on that ship ok it have quests ,but the ship sucks ,low damage only good to kill dd's and that for a battle ship ,you cant 1vs 1 with a other BB ,know next time i need use my money meabe on a other game ... ,waste of money in my eyes

Wot
BB getting a litle friendly? blap'm
Carrier tries to drop some cancer from above? eat his planes.
Cruiser being a bit anoying? Blap'm
DD lurking? get out of there

the PEF is a good ship in my opinion. Just don't try to snipe things, dispersion is what you expect from Kriegsmarine, its garbage. But at mid-to-point blank range it doesn't matter.
Just blap'm
(and don't forget tod eck it out for secodnaries, that helps)

[Steven]

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İlk olarak Steven tarafından gönderildi:

wasted 106 euro on that ship ok it have quests ,but the ship sucks ,low damage only good to kill dd's and that for a battle ship ,you cant 1vs 1 with a other BB ,know next time i need use my money meabe on a other game ... ,waste of money in my eyes

Wot
BB getting a litle friendly? blap'm
Carrier tries to drop some cancer from above? eat his planes.
Cruiser being a bit anoying? Blap'm
DD lurking? get out of there

the PEF is a good ship in my opinion. Just don't try to snipe things, dispersion is what you expect from Kriegsmarine, its garbage. But at mid-to-point blank range it doesn't matter.
Just blap'm
(and don't forget tod eck it out for secodnaries, that helps)

Its already a low damage bb ship and then you always come between tier VIII players know snipping not good with this ship becouse it have verry low range ,Fuso have alot bigger range for same tier + more damage as wel ,pushing can also not becouse the shoot with 3 on you and you sink in a min ,and sure by bad ballance ,realy bismark again P E F ,20 plays 3 wins ,how you can even this way finish your quests ,i call it waste of money

[Ploof Ploof]

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Wot
BB getting a litle friendly? blap'm
Carrier tries to drop some cancer from above? eat his planes.
Cruiser being a bit anoying? Blap'm
DD lurking? get out of there

the PEF is a good ship in my opinion. Just don't try to snipe things, dispersion is what you expect from Kriegsmarine, its garbage. But at mid-to-point blank range it doesn't matter.
Just blap'm
(and don't forget tod eck it out for secodnaries, that helps)

Its already a low damage bb ship and then you always come between tier VIII players know snipping not good with this ship becouse it have verry low range ,Fuso have alot bigger range for same tier + more damage as wel ,pushing can also not becouse the shoot with 3 on you and you sink in a min ,and sure by bad ballance ,realy bismark again P E F ,20 plays 3 wins ,how you can even this way finish your quests ,i call it waste of money

then don't swim alone. I'm having currently a 37% winrate with it and an average of 0.89 frags and i shoot down on average 4.2 planes. cause 50K damage and dodge 1.2 million (stats for 43 battles played)

I know those stats aren't unicum, but i'm not a very good player anyway (except in my Nürn, that is perhaps the only ship i excell at) and i frequently have very satisfying games despite losing, wich is, in my opinion, teh most important bit.

If you don't like it, thats fine, but the ship defenitly isn't bad

[imrahil2]

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wasted 106 euro on that ship ok it have quests ,but the ship sucks ,low damage only good to kill dd's and that for a battle ship ,you cant 1vs 1 with a other BB ,know next time i need use my money meabe on a other game ... ,waste of money in my eyes

You clearly are not playing PEF to her strengths. She is a battlecruiser designed to punish cruisers and not go toe to toe with BBs. Blap cruisers, smoke dds with your secondaries, and laugh at CVs if you bolser your AA as she can get the best AA at her tier hands down. Her speed also lets her reposition fairly well and exploit the mistakes of the enemy, plus her armor is pretty tanky, just dont expose yourself to citadels. Read LWM's review that I posted earlier to learn how PEF is meant to be played