The PE friedrich

[Eva]

So whats up with this ship ? Does it have a citadel at all ? Or is that why its so low in the water, HE seems to be her main weakness...

She has reasonable speed and turn rate and great armor, AP shells are not even half as effective against this thing as against other BB's

Amazing guns as well, very accurate...

The way she plays seems to me like a lower tier tirpitz without the 'upskirt" problem.

So aside from HE on the deck and superstructure, how do i deal with one effectively as a fellow BB ?

[Banzai]

Publicado originalmente por GiometryE:

So whats up with this ship ? Does it have a citadel at all ? Or is that why its so low in the water, HE seems to be her main weakness...

She has reasonable speed and turn rate and great armor, AP shells are not even half as effective against this thing as against other BB's

Amazing guns as well, very accurate...

The way she plays seems to me like a lower tier tirpitz without the 'upskirt" problem.

So aside from HE on the deck and superstructure, how do i deal with one effectively as a fellow BB ?

I got to play with it a while ago and really enjoyed it, but interestingly now it is released there are a lot of complaints flying around about the low calibre/velocity guns. I felt it played a bit like Scharnhorst (with more but slower guns and without the torps ofc) in terms of target selection, so agree with your Tirpz analogy.

Because of the gun's issues, fighting versus it at longish range is probably sensible. Also, as you noted, chaining fires is good.

[Eva]

Publicado originalmente por Banzai:

Publicado originalmente por GiometryE:

So whats up with this ship ? Does it have a citadel at all ? Or is that why its so low in the water, HE seems to be her main weakness...

She has reasonable speed and turn rate and great armor, AP shells are not even half as effective against this thing as against other BB's

Amazing guns as well, very accurate...

The way she plays seems to me like a lower tier tirpitz without the 'upskirt" problem.

So aside from HE on the deck and superstructure, how do i deal with one effectively as a fellow BB ?

I got to play with it a while ago and really enjoyed it, but interestingly now it is released there are a lot of complaints flying around about the low calibre/velocity guns. I felt it played a bit like Scharnhorst (with more but slower guns and without the torps ofc) in terms of target selection, so agree with your Tirpz analogy.

Because of the gun's issues, fighting versus it at longish range is probably sensible. Also, as you noted, chaining fires is good.

Yea ive noticed it shells are pretty slow compared to other ships, though id still argue their overall accuracy makes up for it.

Seems like spamming he or getting a torp on it seems like the best way to take it down, overall its a pretty powerful ship though, it can take a lot of punishment and still battle on unlike some other ships which are basically as good as dead if someone gets a good broadside on them *cough* USN BB's* *cough* dunkerque *cough*

[imrahil2]

She's more of an average vessel and is not OP. She can be citadelled regularly unlike the bayern. See LWMs review for all the details.

https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/177400-premium-ship-review-116-prinz-eitel-friedrich/

[Eva]

seperate question i hope someone can answer: what shall i put as the captains 4 point skill ? im doubting between concealment and fire prevention....

[Ryuu]

In my opinion Fire prevention is always good on battleship(or just really large ships). Concealment is good too usually, if you can afford both. And depends if you need a build for random or other modes.

[Eva]

Publicado originalmente por Ryuu:

In my opinion Fire prevention is always good on battleship(or just really large ships). Concealment is good too usually, if you can afford both. And depends if you need a build for random or other modes.

well currently i mainly use it in ranked sprint where its really excellent (rank 5 now) havent tried it in random battles yet.

Both FP and CE are pretty much mandatory skills for most ships these days so it a though choise between those two.

[Ryuu]

For competitive modes even BBs want concealment, and maybe even CVs as well. Concealment is the queen of this game and positioning — the king.

[Firewalk]

She most definitely has a citadel. Initial volley from my Normandie (340 mm guns) hit the jackpot on it when I first encountered her.

- RA -

[Ryuu]

German citadels are tricky because they can mostly be hit from longer range due to their shape

[StormhawkV]

German BBs can also get citadelled through the nose from close up while turning. They are save nose-in and full broadside but something in between makes them vulnerable because high caliber shells can pierce the bow and hit the citadel right below the turtleback. Happens quite often to the Tirpitz when it tries to use its torpedos while brawling another nose-in ship.

[imrahil2]

Publicado originalmente por GiometryE:

Both FP and CE are pretty much mandatory skills for most ships these days so it a though choise between those two.

For ranked sprint CE is more important first because there are far fewer vessels to HE spam you while being able to go dark or ambush is more useful.

[Ryuu]

Yeah, it also means you can approach closer unseen for making a shot.

[linusboy2118]

Ive played against a few and they seem real tanky to me. Couldnt get a citadel at any range and its real fast 30 kts+. Seems like another OP Premium to me but thats no surprise coming from WG. It's becoming alot like Christmas(WOT) with all these Premium ships and whats this Premium Premium time they have now. Im sure Premium ammo is coming soon you can bet on it.

[Ryuu]

Publicado originalmente por linusboy2118:

Ive played against a few and they seem real tanky to me. Couldnt get a citadel at any range and its real fast 30 kts+. Seems like another OP Premium to me but thats no surprise coming from WG. It's becoming alot like Christmas(WOT) with all these Premium ships and whats this Premium Premium time they have now. Im sure Premium ammo is coming soon you can bet on it.

lol, fear makes your eyes big
http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Prinz_Eitel_Friedrich
just 28 knots, which is good for its tier and class.

And no, no premium ammo. Also the price for that premium is the same, it's an option.

[cobruh]

i just brawled a pe friedrich at about 11 km with my fuso. he was broadside like 40% of the time and answered my AP with HE and i couldnt kill him, burned through all my repairs and had to disengage...

then i turned left and shot a new york which ate 2 citadels...

not worth attacking pe friedrich, broken OP survivability