Vote Kick Abusing, Griefers.

[xSoulDeadx]

So I have been playing left 4 dead 2 and i have been enjoying the game. but there is Factors that absolutely make it frustraiting to play.

Vote Kick Abusing, and Griefers.

Vote kick abusing is when people decide that Since they dont like the person that Recently comes into the game or because they think you are Bad at the game. OR the fact that they Just want to Kick the person For No Reason.

Greifing is when players begin to join the game and cause disruptions in the game and continously try to flame and ruin the game experience for you and your friends (Examples: Molotoving the team, Tking on Expert, Being alright Rude and Kicking you From THE VERY GAME YOU CREATED.


There have been times where i have joined servers and have Done nothing wrong. Suddenly just because im Doing Better then someone else at the game. they feel they should begin to vote abuse the system and Kick me out of the server for no legitimate Reason. There have Been Other times where people have Outright Joined the game In Pairs and begin to troll and Harass people for no reason and Take over their game by Tking people and kicking the Very people who created those games to enjoy and play


Earlier i was playing a match of versus and had joined a lobby and people were begining to fill and leave the lobby Eventually it was just me in the lobby and i patiently waited for people to join the game.

SO, After waiting for maybe about 3 minutes and letting the game fill i Decide to start the game since it delegated me as host since Everyone left.

The game Starts and then we spawn in and wait GUESS WHAT

I Instantly begin to be called a Hacker and already before the cutscene to even spawn is Over. i am Already Literally Voted out of the server for No legitimate reason.

There is another time where i have joined games and people have been very toxic and outright Rude and think they are the worlds best try hard but when you begin to question their ability they instantly vote kick you out or Tk you because you're Quote "Bad"

i have had another instance where i joined a server was minding my own buisness and i decided to pick up the gas can and move it into another spot so we could use it more effectively

^ This was my downfall, The person who i moved the gascan from was SO UPSET. that he literally shot the gascan and immidietly Tk'ed me and vote kicked me out of the server.

This game is a Good Game and i Enjoy it alot with friends and random people to play with

But there are Multiple Multiple factors that make this game very Toxic i dont understand why people need to be so self centred that they need to be the star of the campaign and Hero of the day and then when that gets taken away from them they decide to turn salty and toxic and begin to greif and troll and get rude and harass people and begin to abuse the things that make this game good

THIS HAS TO STOP.

Literally WIth out the Community Gaining some Maturity to Really Stop the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥t Trolling and Griefing in this game it would be a Good game to enjoy with people

But people are so Toxic and Abusive about everything that goes on in the game that they just would rather Abuse the game and Abuse the people who play the game so that they feel better about them selfs its Disgusting


Anyway this is my little rant. i dont give a Flying Rats ♥♥♥♥ if you people think im just being a cry baby or think im bad at the game. Literally Saying any of this Takes the Point away from Anything and just makes you look like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Shaelent]

Well, that's easy. Block them and find another match; there's not much you can do about toxicity, teamkilling, griefing and abusing votekick system. You're just pointlessly ranting about it like all other thousands of threads that have been posted about these sorts of things.

[xSoulDeadx]

Originally posted by kitten ♡:

Well, that's easy. Block them and find another match; there's not much you can do about toxicity, teamkilling, griefing and abusing votekick system. You're just pointlessly ranting about it like all other thousands of threads that have been posted about these sorts of things.

But thats the thing. You cant just Find another match and block them because then the next match you join is Just as worse. n if you really think im waisting my time then you shouldnt post on something that isn't worth time.

[Shaelent]

Originally posted by Storm, Earth, and Fire.:

Originally posted by kitten ♡:

Well, that's easy. Block them and find another match; there's not much you can do about toxicity, teamkilling, griefing and abusing votekick system. You're just pointlessly ranting about it like all other thousands of threads that have been posted about these sorts of things.

But thats the thing. You cant just Find another match and block them because then the next match you join is Just as worse. n if you really think im waisting my time then you shouldnt post on something that isn't worth time.

How do you know if your next match is far worse? Have you even gave it a try? Otherwise you're just going to have to stick with friends only.

[xSoulDeadx]

How do you know if your next match is far worse? Have you even gave it a try? Otherwise you're just going to have to stick with friends only. [/quote]


i have played multiple Multiple matches where i have given people a chance and matchs a chance and yet People still are toxic, and i Shouldnt have to Stick with friends only because then that just limits the fun on the game specially if you dont have people to play the game with.

Most of the time i dont know if it Will be worse or not so i Do Tough it out but then it Escalates to the point where it turns into a toxic showdown and then its off to the next match because people are rude you cant literally expect someone to just Find a new game when you find matches that are Literally infested with toxic people i noticed you have 1300 hours in this game and i Gurentee you have probably Been one of those people who have greifed or been toxic in this game for no reason. and have BEEN a Victim of such things its not EASY to find games where people aren't ♥♥♥♥♥

[xSoulDeadx]

Saying things like Find another match or just block people doesn't make the situation any better because in the next match what happens when you join and they decide to be Rude to you just like in the last game you join? then only to leave that server AND HOPEFULLY by Some Miracle you find a decent match but then people begin to leave and others begin to join in and start the toxic train all over again. people literally are Cancerous in this game and its not Easy to deal with as you say it is

[Shaelent]

Originally posted by Storm, Earth, and Fire.:

i have played multiple Multiple matches where i have given people a chance and matchs a chance and yet People still are toxic, and i Shouldnt have to Stick with friends only because then that just limits the fun on the game specially if you dont have people to play the game with.

Most of the time i dont know if it Will be worse or not so i Do Tough it out but then it Escalates to the point where it turns into a toxic showdown and then its off to the next match because people are rude you cant literally expect someone to just Find a new game when you find matches that are Literally infested with toxic people i noticed you have 1300 hours in this game and i Gurentee you have probably Been one of those people who have greifed or been toxic in this game for no reason. and have BEEN a Victim of such things its not EASY to find games where people aren't ♥♥♥♥♥

Multiple matches? Obviously not enough considering there are a lot of chill and nice players out there; you're just unlucky.

You can find a new game; but you're just judging that the next few players you'll meet are toxic. But the irony here is you're complaining about toxic players yet you're coming across as toxic yourself. I mean, who judges someone of 1.2k hours that they're supposedly a griefer or toxic player for no reason. Good job at trying to stereotype me as those type of people, but you failed. Try again; but with proof.

[xSoulDeadx]

Lol i am not judging that the other players are toxic i mind my own buisness and play the game and then when i begin to do something that people dont like like simply moving a gas can as i have stated in my post i get Tk'ed and voted out of the server and then Other times i Do still play games where i get about half way through the game and people Litearlly out of the BLUE decide to troll and greif and cause disruptions in the game and flame people

Also just because i dont have Proof to Proove that you have done things like that Doesn't mean that in those thousands of hours you have put in this game YOU HAVn'T Done anything like that.

Even in my hours i troll abit and grief people just for fun but most of the times its against people who are jerks all together and ruin the fun for everyone

Even if you Havn't Done any griefing or trolling or any negative things to people i Gurentee you have been abused by people in the game who have ruined your games you CANNOT 100% Gurentee that is not a Fact.

[Karmaterrorᵁᴷ]

99% of the time there is a reson for the kick. You may just not know why yet. Take em on the chin, analyse what could have caused it and try to rectify in next game. I can garantee you wont have been kicked "for being better" than anyone. If your an asset they will want you to stay if not then you are doing something wrong. Sounds harsh but its usually the truth. Your still reletivly low hours on such an old game and the vets will spot mistakes easy.

Griefers just grow a thicker skin. Laugh it off and find the next match or stay and show no reaction, they usually get bored and leave anyways. This is online gaming, people will be ♥♥♥♥♥ behind a keyboard. Its never going to stop as long as humans keep breeding. Just dont let it get to you....thats what they want.

They are probbably celebrating making you post this ;)

[Shaelent]

Originally posted by Storm, Earth, and Fire.:

Lol i am not judging that the other players are toxic i mind my own buisness and play the game and then when i begin to do something that people dont like like simply moving a gas can as i have stated in my post i get Tk'ed and voted out of the server and then Other times i Do still play games where i get about half way through the game and people Litearlly out of the BLUE decide to troll and greif and cause disruptions in the game and flame people

Also just because i dont have Proof to Proove that you have done things like that Doesn't mean that in those thousands of hours you have put in this game YOU HAVn'T Done anything like that.

Even in my hours i troll abit and grief people just for fun but most of the times its against people who are jerks all together and ruin the fun for everyone

Even if you Havn't Done any griefing or trolling or any negative things to people i Gurentee you have been abused by people in the game who have ruined your games you CANNOT 100% Gurentee that is not a Fact.

To your answer of judging people;

Originally posted by Storm, Earth, and Fire.:

i noticed you have 1300 hours in this game and i Gurentee you have probably Been one of those people who have greifed or been toxic in this game for no reason.

Just because you have no proof doesn't mean that you have a right to assume I'm one of those people. I've played with tons of people and they can prove to you that I'm a team player. Simple.

And no I haven't actually done anything bad to a teammate, I've mucked around; yes, but what I've done is far different from trolling and griefing and being a toxic player.

[xSoulDeadx]

Originally posted by Karmaterrorᵁᴷ:

99% of the time there is a reson for the kick. You may just not know why yet. Take em on the chin, analyse what could have caused it and try to rectify in next game. I can garantee you wont have been kicked "for being better" than anyone. If your an asset they will want you to stay if not then you are doing something wrong. Sounds harsh but its usually the truth. Your still reletivly low hours on such an old game and the vets will spot mistakes easy.

Griefers just grow a thicker skin. Laugh it off and find the next match or stay and show no reaction, they usually get bored and leave anyways. This is online gaming, people will be ♥♥♥♥♥ behind a keyboard. Its never going to stop as long as humans keep breeding. Just dont let it get to you....thats what they want.

They are probbably celebrating making you post this ;)

Lol yeah there have been times where i have been kicked for legitimate reason but there ARE ALSO Legitimate times where i have been Wrongfully Kicked for Doing ABSOLUTELY Nothing Wrong. You literally cannot Justify that just because i am being kicked means im Obviously doing something wrong. Yes there are times where there is a reason but theres no reason even STATED before even being kicked thus the WRongful accusations of being kicked. and its really hard to just "Laugh it off" like you say it is when you Try to enjoy something that you Started and wanted to finish only to be interupted by someone who is ultimately trying to ruin and take over your game experience.

[xSoulDeadx]

Originally posted by kitten ♡:

Originally posted by Storm, Earth, and Fire.:

Lol i am not judging that the other players are toxic i mind my own buisness and play the game and then when i begin to do something that people dont like like simply moving a gas can as i have stated in my post i get Tk'ed and voted out of the server and then Other times i Do still play games where i get about half way through the game and people Litearlly out of the BLUE decide to troll and greif and cause disruptions in the game and flame people

Also just because i dont have Proof to Proove that you have done things like that Doesn't mean that in those thousands of hours you have put in this game YOU HAVn'T Done anything like that.

Even in my hours i troll abit and grief people just for fun but most of the times its against people who are jerks all together and ruin the fun for everyone

Even if you Havn't Done any griefing or trolling or any negative things to people i Gurentee you have been abused by people in the game who have ruined your games you CANNOT 100% Gurentee that is not a Fact.

To your answer of judging people;

Originally posted by Storm, Earth, and Fire.:

i noticed you have 1300 hours in this game and i Gurentee you have probably Been one of those people who have greifed or been toxic in this game for no reason.

Just because you have no proof doesn't mean that you have a right to assume I'm one of those people. I've played with tons of people and they can prove to you that I'm a team player. Simple.

And no I haven't actually done anything bad to a teammate, I've mucked around; yes, but what I've done is far different from trolling and griefing and being a toxic player.

and i can understand that if you havn't done anything and mucking around isn't that bad and yes that is a Good thing you are a team player as i am i usually play and try to enjoy the game with Everyone but there are people who ARE UNDOUBTEBLY Rude in the game and will ruin the game for you

[Karmaterrorᵁᴷ]

Keep in mind sometimes the early kicks are to get a friend in or if you join and get kicked instantly it could have been a player that DC'd. Our group will always ask to leave and say why, but a lot just kick to avoid some grief damage from the guy they ask to lave being salty :)

[xSoulDeadx]

Originally posted by Karmaterrorᵁᴷ:

Keep in mind sometimes the early kicks are to get a friend in or if you join and get kicked instantly it could have been a player that DC'd. Our group will always ask to leave and say why, but a lot just kick to avoid some grief damage from the guy they ask to lave being salty :)

But that shouldnt be a reason to kick someone who has patiently waited in the server and wants to play the game Out of the server and invite your friend in thats ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up if you want to play with your friend then go make a game and invite him to that game Dont invite him to a match thats already full and Force people who are waiting and patiently trying ot play the game Out of the server so you can enjoy the game with your friend. thats Wrongful.

[xSoulDeadx]

Originally posted by Karmaterrorᵁᴷ:

Keep in mind sometimes the early kicks are to get a friend in or if you join and get kicked instantly it could have been a player that DC'd. Our group will always ask to leave and say why, but a lot just kick to avoid some grief damage from the guy they ask to lave being salty :)

So can you justify the fact that in my post above when i try to start the match for people waiting in the lobby i Instantly get called a hacker and voted out of the server for Starting the match and waiting for the cutscene to finish...?

[Shaelent]

Listen, mate,

There will always be a toxic player in the community; it happens with every public game. But it's only a 50/50 chance that you'll actually meet toxic players as it is with meeting nice players. You're just in the wrong boat with a ripped up 4-leaf lucky clover.