Cross-Play

[DooHeyKey]

Any hope of this ever happening? or only shooting games can benefit of that feature?

[Debrel]

cross-play is fine as long as they add a wi-fi indicator, no idea if they have anything like that planned though, probably not.

[5812381312183238422879]

Probably too much work to put in now. Hope we have it in SCVII though

[CZI]

Street Fighter V has implemented cross play. I'm not sure how it is good. I have and tried, but I'm not good enough to tell.

[Habaduba]

Since the game runs considerably worse on consoles, probably not.

[PanPan]

I would like an inbuilt fps counter and ping counter.
So people will see when there isn't 60 fps or stable ping.
5 or 3 bars connection ? i don't care...

Originally posted by CZI:

Street Fighter V has implemented cross play. I'm not sure how it is good. I have and tried, but I'm not good enough to tell.

SFV wasn't released on Xbox (Sony exclusivity) and Sony didn't want crossplay with xbox.
But yeah PC - PS4 is a must have.

Originally posted by Habaduba:

Since the game runs considerably worse on consoles, probably not.

Consoles have more inputlag, is there something else ?

[Habaduba]

Originally posted by PP:

I would like an inbuilt fps counter and ping counter.
So people will see when there isn't 60 fps or stable ping.
5 or 3 bars connection ? i don't care...

Originally posted by CZI:

Street Fighter V has implemented cross play. I'm not sure how it is good. I have and tried, but I'm not good enough to tell.

SFV wasn't released on Xbox (Sony exclusivity) and Sony didn't want crossplay with xbox.
But yeah PC - PS4 is a must have.

Originally posted by Habaduba:

Since the game runs considerably worse on consoles, probably not.

Consoles have more inputlag, is there something else ?

No, but that would already create desparity

[CZI]

I think Capcom was already announced release SFV on Xbox Series X. I could not find the source, but there support page has already Series X.

https://www.capcom.co.jp/support/list/platform_xboxseriesx.html

One funny thing I think was PS4 was too slow to process. Then PC became main tournament platform. I'm not sure if it was changed after PS4Pro.

In general consoles are very easy to use and so few issues than PC. Just plug and play and ready for game almost all the time.

But I think the input lag is huge advantage on PC. 1-2 frames (probably about 20-25ms?) delay difference is completely different feeling.

If dev implement cross-play, PC required to add delay to same as consoles. I prefer not happen, so I personally against cross play.

But if game is implemented as native on PS5 and Series X (not like PS4onPS5 mode), input delay may be improved. Personally I don't know.

PS4 SC6 input lag:
https://twitter.com/WydD/status/1052836115017854976

[PanPan]

Originally posted by CZI:

But I think the input lag is huge advantage on PC. 1-2 frames (probably about 20-25ms?) delay difference is completely different feeling.

If dev implement cross-play, PC required to add delay to same as consoles. I prefer not happen, so I personally against cross play.

I think it's ok to be unbalance and don't need to add delay for PC :
If i take a FPS game at 60 fps on a 60Hz monitor.
- Mouse is more accurate than controller
- If i run the game at 120fps on a 120Hz monitor, i win 16.67ms inputlag.
- If i have a fast monitor vs TV, i win around 15ms.
It's already unbalance and if i want to play with different hardware/devices, it's up to me.

Yes, am the only idiot that play PC FPS games with a controller on a 4K TV ^^

[Ranmaru Rei]

If it will have a good rollback netcode implementation, any adiitional delay won't be needed.

[CZI]

I think I missed my point.
PC user would be OK and have benefits.
PS4 user is more likely not welcome for cross play with PC users.

[DooHeyKey]

Originally posted by CZI:

I think I missed my point.
PC user would be OK and have benefits.
PS4 user is more likely not welcome for cross play with PC users.

True, of course pc version is better in every way, but the reason why I would like cross-play is to keep the game alive, for some odd reason games like these die withing months or weeks of receiving their last dlc or patch, but with the consoles there almost always people playing online, how odd is that?

[CZI]

I think console gamer (especially PS4/5) like limited but fair environment. It is close to arcade game. So gamers skill become more important (not individuals' hardware).

Xbox users seems a bit different. It seems they don't like these fighting games. SC6 evaluation is Xbox store is around 2.2 out of 5.

I agree that SC6 Steam version is the best. But I think PC itself is not best gaming platform. It requires a lot of maintenance. So many issues like does not launch, audio issue, many lags from Windows notification, automatic update, virus scan, windows update, driver update, every week Steam client update, etc. There are not such a topic in PS/Xbox forum.

I'm actually tired about managing PC to be lag free to check each updates. But I wish SC6 on PC become more popular like Tekken. So I try to help issues when I can. I compiled some troubleshooting in guide too.

When I have 30 min to do rank match, usually I use console. Xbox is pretty good that part. With quick resume, about 15-20 sec from power on I can be in training mode with rank match waiting.

For practice, I think PC is better as fastest controller input. It seems easier to adjust myself to slower response on console or laggy matches. But if I get used to too much on slower console timing, it seems more difficult to adjust faster response on PC.

[Aya]

Would require the game to be re-released on Xbox Game Pass for PC and for the re-release to have Xbox Live cross platform multiplayer

[CZI]

Originally posted by Aya Shameimaru:

Would require the game to be re-released on Xbox Game Pass for PC and for the re-release to have Xbox Live cross platform multiplayer

I think it is really good idea and more realistic than cross play.

Maybe we should request Namco for adding SC6 on Xbox PC.
Form is here:
https://survey.bn-ent.net/Q/en/000000scviopinion/enq1/

Xbox Game Pass is included only Xbox console version and not PC version. SC6 is not even in MS Store.

But Xbox app on PC auto detects SC6 from Steam. I personally don't like the app behave that way without user's permission, but it does.

So I think it is half ready. If SC6 does not have exclusive contract with Steam, I think it could happen.

(Possible) MS Store (Game Pass) version has a lot of limitations. No user sharing. No mods, etc. So Steam version would be better,

[SnySnk]

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